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Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "German Chancellor Scholz not keen on banning all Russians from receiving visas for the EU | DW News" video.
@rka-truthalwayswins5127 politics & money drives every country including yours🤦♂️🙄
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@bachelor3846 that is a twisted form of history. Obviously Gorbachev had a role in what happend, but at the time of the German reunification the writing was already on the wall. He didn't have much of a choice to be fair. Either he let them go freely or he would have been forced to do. At that point the fall of the Warsaw pact was already inevitable and I would say the USSR was close to that point himself too. He normalized the relationship as he knew he couldn't compete with the Americans in this weapons race and it was destroying his own country if he would continue on this path.
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@Nabium had no clue you didn't want to sell us the energy hahaha. Beautiful country btw
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@wom_Bat Hungary and Poland were never part of the USSR and therefore never declared independence from it. They became democratic and left the Warsaw pact, not the USSR.
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@stevenellis2043 yeah I know. So people saying that Gorbachev wanted the reunification. No he simply didn't have a choice with his own country on the brink of collapse they were not be able to stop it.
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@wom_Bat as someone with a Czech mother I know yes )) but being a satellite nation or being an actual Soviet Republic are different things. The former East bloc never declared independence. They just broke free of Russia's control. Would you say that Belarus is part of Russia now then? It is a puppet regime but it's not a federal subjects. Do you see the difference that I mean.
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@Nabium mate as a European myself I never understood why we thought having such deep trade relations with them was a smart move. Maybe it is because I am of Czech decent but I saw this coming from a mile away.
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@Nabium yeah in my country we say that the country has two identities. That of the koopman (businessman) and the Dominee (Protestant priest). The Priest part is the side of us that lectures other countries how they should behave in the correct moral way, as my country loves to do this and it's annoying. Especially since often the businessman part takes over and we forgo our own moral standards just to make money.
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@Nabium our current pm, Mark Rutte, actually perfectly embodies this concept of "koopman en dominee".
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@Nabium what country are you from if I might ask? And about Rutte, he loves telling other countries how to behave and what is morally right, but yet he himself was in business with the Russians themselves and only changed its opinion on Ukraine (in regards to EU candidacy) due to pressure from the majority of parliament. Claiming it had to do with the anti corruption prerequisites placed on the EU candidate status. Which would have happend anyway. He loves to tell Poland and Hungary that they are autocratic and especially Hungary should leave, but he himself when you ask him for information will give you a paper with 10 words readable and the rest censored due to it being "confidential information" he really did this with information asked for by parliament.
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@bachelor3846 "the Berlin wall fell because Gorbachev wanted this to happen". No not really. Gorbachev at no choice at this point. It is like with the British, and other colonial powers, in Africa. As British Prime minister Harold Macmillan once said "The wind of change is blowing through this continent. Whether we like it or not, this growth of national consciousness is a political fact." Meaning that there was no point in stopping it as it would delay the inevitable. This is the same case with Germany. France didn't want it "we love Germany so much, that we prefer having two" and the UK was sceptical about it too. But the winds of change were blowing in central and eastern Europe. The fate of the Warsaw pact and the USSR was already inevitable at this point. Had he resisted the reunification, it would have only delayed the inevitable. People blame Gorbachev for the fall of the USSR, but at this time the country was already near collapse and he tried to safe it. In the end he failed, but the coup is what was the direct cause of the collapse. They tried the CIS as an alternative and he himself at thought of an independent USSR style confederation that no longer would follow communism. However he was to late and couldn't stop it. So no Gorbachev isn't the reason for the reunification. He simply allowed it as it was essentially fait accompli anyway.
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