Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "Jake Tapper on the 'paradox' of Putin: 'The more he fails, the more desperate he becomes'" video.
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@antoniodomene the first part is the problem (the Russia part, not the fact you have sons or that they are Russian). You clearly have a biased view. I have a Ukrainian girlfriend, Ukrainian family and Ukrainian friends. Living all through Ukraine, from Lviv to Donetsk and from Kyiv to Odessa. These people don't want a pro Western government because the US, or anyone, intervened in their country.
They are pro Western, because they want something different than the past. They don't know what the EU or the USA will bring them, but they do know what a future within the Russian world brings them. They remember the holodomor as well as the anti Ukrainian and Russification policies that have been happening there for centuries.
They didn't hate Russia, they do know, but just wanted a better future. Russia as achieved what no Ukrainian politician could have ever done, unite the country.
I would like to remind you that Russia chose this war. They can also end it by just leaving Ukraine. Ukraine has no chose in the matter, as stopping to fight the invaders, will mean they country, culture and people will seize to exist. No Ukrainian "loves" this war, but the war is an existential one for them, there is no choice. They all just want their country back, in the borders that were agreed in 1991 (which even leaves alot of ethnic Ukrainians in Russia, namely the Kuban, so they really don't ask much) and be left alone by Russia. All they want is freedom from Russia and that Russia leaves them alone. That is the only reason they want to join NATO.
About the last part, I am a Dutch national but with clear Ukrainian roots. I would fight for them if needed. Would you not consider it my war? After all are we not all responsible for upholding international law so we won't slip back into the 20th century was which were so destructive? Imagine those conflicts with modern technology. Btw this applies both ways, I also strongly opposed the American interventions in the middle east and Libya. Vietnam was before my time.
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@damienhaydon2703 you clearly have no experience with what Ukrainian society is like, at all and base all of your views on the opinions of others and therefore have no opinion of your own. Have you done your own research? I don't mean searching online, but to actually speak with Ukrainians and ask them about these things. I have visited Ukraine many times form West to East and North to South. Spoken to the locals and their views. So from personal experience I can say, that calling them nazis is bs. That would be akin with calling you a nazi. And whilst I don't agree with you, I don't think you're a nazi. From secondhand experience (as I never had the opportunity to visit Russia but I do have friends there) I would say that Russia has more traits of a facist, authoritarian and now totalitarian state, than Ukraine. I have always been able to freely interview Ukrainians for my researches. No fear of prosecution. Whilst Russians always told me to use a different name and to be sure that we used an app which the government agencies couldn't check. I think that says enough. It taught me that the thing you are doing now, disagreeing with your government's policy, is not everywhere as normal as it is for us. Being able to say you disagree without persecution isn't as normal in a large part of the world, including Russia, as you'd think.
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