Comments by "Dylan Vogler" (@dylanvogler2165) on "See how drone attacks in Ukraine are reshaping warfare" video.

@RC-tv7hi because the vast majority of the people living in those regions either fled or are living in Ukrainian held territory? Isn't it weird to you that only those living in Russian held territory + Russian soldiers (who were not even from there) could vote? Yet it effected the the whole region. Not much democracy if you don't let 50+% of the inhabitans living in those regions, have a vote right? A legal vote would have also have the Ukrainian parts voted, including those that had to flee. And would have been a UN referendum without Russian or Ukrainian interference. Most importantly it wouldn't have included them going house to house, with armed soldiers, to force people to vote. Not to mention, that the DNR's numbers published on the first and second day don't add up. With somehow at the end of day two there being less no votes than there were after day one (which, is not difficult to understand even for you, is impossible).
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@RC-tv7hi as someone who has friends and family on both sides of the artificially created border, they shelled each other. But it is a truly Russian thing to play the victim. Most violations of the cease fire, as reported by the UN, happend from the separatists held territories. Also your statement is even further from the truth in regards to Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts.
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@damienhaydon2703 azov started as s horrible organisation. Do you also know why they were incorporated within the army? Precisely do get more control over them. So contrary to what you state here. Nowadays Azov has gotten rid of those Nazi idiots and is just a nationalist battalion. I do think it is funny that every body knows Azov but nobody seems to know about the DNR's Sparta and Somalia battalions (I advise you to read about those as well). Not to mention Russia's Wagner Group (literally named after a nazi, and you should check their website, they proudly display their warcrimes). The truth is that in such conflicts there will always be such idiots, on all sides. Nazism and facsim is a plague that sadly has spread around the world. You country has nazis too, as has mine, during war they will come up as it in their nature as spreaders of hate. The difference is that one country has incorporated them in their armed forces in order to deradicalize them (which they did) and get controll over them, and the other side actively encouraging their behaviour including rape and murder. Don't get me wrong the Azov members that committed warcrimes in 2015 (mostly as after the fighting mostly stopped) should be prosecuted as well. But the story isn't as black and white as the Russians and their proxies would make you believe it to be. However it is in the Russian nature to play the victim and hide and deny warcrimes they committed, even if the whole world knows it's them (besides the warcrimes in UA, this also applies to Katyn were more than 80 years later, the Russians still deny it was them).
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@Tom Smith I love how the less intelligent always intepret those things the way they like it. The man has no wish to make Ukraine a Jewish state if that is what you are getting at. If what you say is true, it would be about becoming a country as successful and rich as Isrsel
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@RC-tv7hi more than half of the country voted in 2014 and in 2018. Only the temporary territories didn't. Also Ukraine itself wasn't a warzone in 2018, only the Donbass was. Also Yanukovich fled himself, after the Ukrainians decided they didn't want a Putin or Lukachenko as their leader. As Yanukovich was such a man. Stole money from the state, got increasingly authoritarian, imprisoned his political opposition and had actually served jail time for voting fraud earlier. About my other claims, there is literally footage of what happend around the voting and it is well established facts that hundreds of thousands of millions of people fled separatists controlled territories after the oprising there. It was a minority, not majority, uprising. As well as the well established fact of the millions that fled Ukraine (so that includes the occupied territories) this year.
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@RC-tv7hi I meant if there is an url in it. As comments with external urls in it are immediately removed. And yeah it happend to me for some time too. Means people that didn't agree with you, have reported you, most likely for spam, alot. And YT doesn't care to check if it is for a fair reason or not. It goes against the freedom of speech, but American tech companies am I right? If you would write hate speech, I would agree with them. But whilst I might not agree with you, there is nothing offensive about it. I myself am more of the idea that we should go into discussions with those we disagree with. Without insulting each other (although that is hard on here, and I am guilty of it myself lately as most aren't able to discuss things and just scream like little kids) as you can actually learn from each other. I don't know the truth, you don't know the truth, only the government leaders know some form of the truth and even then the truth is never completely on one side and normally a bit of both. People saying that Ukraine is completely honest (and I say this as someone supporting and loving Ukraine for its people and culture) are just as delusional as those saying the same about Russia.
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@RC-tv7hi when you see "20 replies" and only see 5 you know YT has been busy again lmao. It is annoying but has become normal. Just like how they removed down votes count
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@RC-tv7hi or how they demonetise history channels
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@RC-tv7hi "all of Ukraine's elections have been done in a warzone" do you even have any idea of the size of Ukraine. I have been there after 2014 and nowhere except for the Donbass, it was a warzone. So that statement is the biggest bs. About Crimea, it is not denied that a majority of the colonial Russian population voted in favour of joining Russia (the native Crimean tatar population voting against it. But eh, that's Imperialism and colonialism right? Who cares about the natives). The results of the referendum there were false, everyone with a brain knows this. The actual results were closer to 60% in favor of joining Russia (and we shouldn't forget that during this and after alot of Crimean taters and Ukrainians flet Crimea and were replaced by Russians, and old Soviet/Russian tactic). As someone whom has actually been the Donbass, I can say that the majority in pro Ukrainian (when we talk about the entire Donbass, which the votes were about) whilst there has been plenty of evidence of pro Ukrainian people living in the so-called DNR and LNR were forced to flee or be prosecuted. The Donbass still is a majority Ukrainian region (both oblasts), only Crimea was a majority Russian, in this case Autonomous Republic, of Ukraine. Up until 2014/15 there was only a Russian plurality (not majority) in the cities of Luhansk and Donetsk, but not within the region they are. After 2014/15 these numbers have been altered after what we can consider an cultural cleansing of anything Ukrainian (as we also see in the occupied territories nowadays).
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@damienhaydon2703 so essentially you say :"I am complaining about Nazis, but I myself am at the least a facist and probably a neo-nazi" am I right?
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@damienhaydon2703 you get your truth from one sides documentaries, I personally do so from speaking with those involved and doing research in the actual territory.
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@RC-tv7hi the referendums by definition couldn't have been legal as they contradict international law as well as Ukrainian law (and the territories are internationally recognized as Ukrainian, imagine if someone occupied Kaliningrad and would then organise a rigged referendum). The only way this could have been a legal referendum would be a. If Ukraine organised it I all the whole disputed territory or b. If the UN organised it with the approval of Ukraine. In which case both Ukrainian and Russian troops would have needed to leave the areas and UN troops would be stationed there during the referendum as to make sure they would have been no rigging. Not to mention that the vote would have needed to include an option for all residents of the disputed regions to vote, so including those living in the Ukrainian held portions and those that had the flee the territory since 2014 (so that means both those that fled to other Ukrainian territories or Western countries as well as those that fled to Russia) and would exclude the voting of Russian soldiers (for obvious reasons) and include those of the DNR and LNR native to Donetsk and Luhansk oblast respectively. Had then a majority voted in favor, the world might have accepted it. Although the fact they forced the issue militarily could have been a problem. But even if the referenda had been held in perfect conditions, including ALL Donbass people and without rigging and threating people at gunpoint as well as having had actual secret voting, it would still have broken international law and wouldn't have been recognzied due to the fact that Russia organised them in Ukrainian territory. I think I will organise a referendum tomorrow about Leningrad Oblast, the Republic of Karelia, the Murmansk oblast and the city of federal importance Saint Petersburg, joining Finland. Ofcourse I am sure the result will be between 93%-99% in favour of joining. I mean after all we let all Russians here vote, who cares about those living there? And the claim I made about the DNR. You can literally check their own statements about the voting. How's your math? As simple math would show you that between the first and second day, according to math, it would mean no votes has disappeared (funnily enough the Russian YT channel 1420 even showed this as well).
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@RC-tv7hi do you have a link in it? Otherwise people might have reported you as spam my man. In which case, I don't agree with silencing people that disagree with you in that way, but that's YT for ya.
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@damienhaydon2703 also I didn't say Azov that it isn't true. I am trying to show you that the conflict isn't as black and white as you think (nor as some Pro Ukrainian ppl think that have only given interest to the situation from February 24th). And if you mean my story was bs? I truly have family from Donetsk lol. She used to take my uncle to Crimea until the Russian annexation. As well as I have travelled the country and spoken to the people there. Been there for about two years. Travelling from Lviv in the west to Kramatorsk in the East. Visiting the family of my aunt in Donetsk (hard to do as they ask why a foreigner wants to cross their "border") and visited Kharkiv, Poltava and Odessa (had alot of fun on the beaches and the aqua park there was well with my good friend Tanya) as well. Although I stayed most of my time in Kyiv.
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@damienhaydon2703 you are aware btw, that there is a seperate EU parliament right? One with representatives from the member states. The parliamentarians in that Parliament have nothing to do with the politics of their national government. You are aware of this right? They have so few to do with national politics that most people don't even know which people represent them in the EU parliament (which is a problem on itself btw).
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Less bloodless? You are aware that ww2 had more casualties than ww1 right? The casualties in ww1 had nothing to do with their not being strategic bombing. It had to do with the lack of mobile offensive technology (what would become the tank) and the retaredness of the generals whom used human waves tactics against well fortified positions. I can tell you, that would have exactly the same result in today's warfare. Strategic bombing caused the destruction of entire cities and the death of countless civilians. Just think of the countless Japanese cities, British cities, Rotterdam, Dresden, Berlin, Bremen etc. Strategic bombing could have had such effect as you claim if it had been used exclusively on military targets, the same with drones, but nope we mostly target civilians with it. Meaning that in many cases military deaths indeed go down, but the civilian death rises disproportionate.
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@RC-tv7hi about the Minsk agreement, what you say is true, with a slight twist. The regions would essentially get vetoes in Ukrainian politics. Which essentially meant that Russia would get them. These Republics would remain proxies of Russia, but now within Ukraine. Meaning that Ukraine would essentially become a disfunctioning state or a vassal of Russia. As disagreeing with Moscow would mean that its policies would be blocked. This, clearly even a child can see this, is not a good idea and will erode your independence and souverenighty. About the idea of federalism in itself. If it is such a great idea, why has Russia moved away from it and taken the power away from the regions and national republics? As Russia is only a federation in name nowadays and is in truth a unitary authoritarian (going more and more totalitarian and exhibiting traits of facism) state.
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@damienhaydon2703 just admitted in the Dutch parliament? Can you give me a source on this. As it is bs lol. I can know as I am a Dutch national. The TV remark is hilarious for a guy spending his day spreading anti semitic messages on YT. I am to busy to watch TV lol. Considering I study historical sources as well as to keep up my language skills (considering I speak 6 languages). Also I love you start about Corona. You are what we here in NL call a "wappie" as we weren't discussing that lol. So Azov is bad for you but Wagner, Sparta and Somalia are okay? You sir, are a hypocrite. They are all the same )) then again you yourself are a nazi as well, including the anti semitism. As whilst you don't use a Swastika, I am sure you proudly use the Russian "Z" right? Which is used in the exact same manner. About Zelensky too, can you show be source? Don't bother if it is a Russian one btw. Or is your source the typical facist orc source :"trust me bro" or "my führer told me".
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@damienhaydon2703 also moron, you talk about TV yet you get your truth from a documentary? I have been to the Donbass dumbass, have family on both sides for the Russian created border. What a moron you are, when you don't realise it was a Dutch EU parliamentary in the EU parliament and not in the Dutch parliamentary. Moron. But again we weren't discussing corona vaccines moron, I myself haven't been vaccinated either. F*"ck you wappies are dumb idiots
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@damienhaydon2703 you are aware, dumbass, that the Donbass is ALL of the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts? You are such a dumbass. I have an aunt in Donetsk city (where I was) as well as friends in Kramatorsk (I can show you a picture of me with my friend, pretty girl, in a park in Kramatorsk, which in Donetsk oblast and therefore Donbass as well dumbass, and she is pretty btw). If you had any actual knowledge of the people there instead of Russian propaganda you'd know that many Ukrainians don't support Azov either but understand that Azov saved them in 2014 from the Russians. My friend doesn't support them, but supports Ukraine and is now anti Russian. Damn you're such a dumbass that I can't believe this. I honestly think my nephew of 6 is smarter than you. Can I ask about your education? As I think you're a drop out or someone with a low education. As I rarely have seen people so dumb as you. But nice avoiding of my question about Wagner, Sparta and Somalia.
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@RC-tv7hi sure let's go to 2010, after which they will a. Be immediately voted out of government as Russia's actions made a pro Russian government is Ukraine impossible, or b. They will go immediately the way of Putin and rig the elections and destroy the opposition, which is what you want I guess? Secondly, the people weren't in an active warzone during that time. Even in the Ukrainian controlled Donbass there was nearly no danger as the conflict was frozen. There wasn't an active war like there is now. And you know this, you're trying to twist facts so it suits your needs. Nobody in Ukraine was forced at gun point to vote in 2014 and 2018, they were now. Not to mention, that by international law it is forbidden to organise a referendum in the territory of another state (not to mention that forcefully annexing territory from another state is by definition a breach of international law as well)
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@damienhaydon2703 mate what you talking about? A nuke? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Are you okay mate? I think you honestly need to be checked. You are honestly delusional. You should actually watch less TV especially Russian TV and get outside mate. Honestly worried about your mental wellbeing. Also stop about the Corona stuff. I don't care. We weren't discussing it.
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@damienhaydon2703 could you explain to me were Ukraine got a nuke from? Walmart of something? As they got rid of their nukes in 1994.
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@MrJ9191 hahaha cope harder.
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