Comments by "Jim Werther" (@jimwerther) on "The Young Turks"
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@husamaskhusam
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@myowngenesis
Israel's supplementing Gaza's water and electricity was never their responsibility to begin with! Gaza gets billions of dollars from the outside world for such things, but Hamas diverts the money for terrorism instead. Hamas has actually released videos of them proudly dismantling water pipes for use as rocket parts so they can fire them into Israeli high-population centers.
In that Israel never had to supply such things to Gaza to begin with, they really don't need to do so after the recipients began using their supplies to murder Israeli citizens. And yet...Israel only said on Oct 8 that they would shut off the water until the hostages were returned! That's a pretty reasonable request, don't you think? And yet, within days, Israel even turned on the water anyway for the southern part of Gaza, as an incentive to have civilians move away from the areas where Israel would have to attack in order to remove Hamas. All in all, Israel went far above and beyond their responsibilities, as they always do.
As to your next question...the Palestinian Authority does not exist in Gaza, because Hamas killed all of them. There was a civil war in Gaza between the groups in 2007/2008, and Hamas annihilated all PA members in Gaza at the time.
To be clear, the West Bank is full of radical Islamist genocidal terrorists as well. The "moderate" PA celebrated the October 7th attacks, and also paid out reward money to the terrorists who committed the atrocities (or to their surviving family members), as the PA does after every terrorist attack against Jews or Americans. It is colloquially known as "pay for slay". Not too moderate, really.
So while the media portrays the Israelis as the aggressors in the West Bank? That is really not accurate. Yes, there have been isolated attacks against civilian West Bank Arabs by Israeli settlers during this time of insanely high tensions; Israel has arrested all such perpetrators. Such events, though, are a tiny, tiny percentage of Jewish/Arab incidents in the West Bank. Nearly every violent attack has been Islamist terrorism against Jews. One reason Israel was caught unprepared on October 7 is because they had focused their security in the area of the West Bank, as there had been a big increase in Islamist genocidal terrorism there. Please understand that Arabs can safely walk in any area of any neighborhood in Israel proper without a care in the world, and will not be bothered by anyone. Any identifiable Jew caught in an Arab area of the West Bank will be dead within seconds. That is not an exaggeration; examples abound.
Understand that even in the West Bank, nominally run by the PA, it is the Hamas supporters who are dominant. The PA is seen as not militant enough by those who want to annihilate Israel. Public polling shows that Hamas is extremely popular there, that the Oct 7 attacks supported is by 75% of the Arab population of the West Bank, with 98% saying they hate the US. Only 10% of the populace there supports the PA. Which is why PA President Mahmoud Abbas is in the 17th year of his 4 year term - he always finds a reason to cancel elections, because he knows he would get crushed by Hamas.
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