Comments by "Jim Werther" (@jimwerther) on "Lamar Johnson: Standing in Truth | Full Episode" video.

  1. The cases of innocent people being exonerated are always the best 👍
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  2.  @LynxStarAuto  But executions can't be undone. Which is why it shouldn't be used unless there is no doubt whatsoever, as opposed to no reasonable doubt.
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  3.  @catme13  It was a very different time. We simply didn't know back then how unreliable eyewitness and jailhouse snitch testimony was. It's a different world now.
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  4.  @j.b.macdirty6202  What? Why?
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  5. Watching this makes me feel better about Kim Gardner. Overall, she's been a terrible DA, and was just yesterday forced to resign. But good to know she does have a saving grace.
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  6. Easy to hate everyone with 20/20 hindsight, but they really believed they had the right guy. Criminology is far more advanced now than it was in the 1990s.
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  7.  @missdaisy2853  False accusation by you, based upon nothing but your own dark heart.
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  8.  @Aelea  👍
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  9. The whole thing about being able to judge truthfulness through body language was long ago proven false.
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  10. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  11.  @deebest4202  You not only don't know that to be the case here, you lack knowledge of criminology and its history. The detective believed he had the right two people, and turned out to be right once and wrong on the other one. Encouraging witnesses to be more decisive was standard operating procedure back when physical and video evidence were very rare.
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  12. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  13. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  14. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  15. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  16.  @Billmull8622  It was the mid-1990s. Until DNA came along, and then the Innocence Project and other such groups came along, we didn't realize how bad we were at figuring out this stuff absent physical evidence. Criminology has evolved massively in the last quarter century.
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  17.  @jessastephenson3260  Care to source your rather remarkable claim?
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  18. You have no idea what you're talking about. You really believe your country (whatever it is) has a better system? The world of criminology is now light years ahead of where it was 30 years ago. They pursued the case at the time because they thought they had the right guy. Times have changed in a huge way.
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  19. Clearly not, or they would have told us that she did.
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  20.  @cathybassett6432  Not that simple. If you understood how crime was investigated at the time, you would understand that these were innocent mistakes that happened at the time. There is no question that the detectives believed that they had the right people. They were right on one wrong on the other.
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  21. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  22. It absolutely does NOT contimue to happen to so many others. It used to happen far too frequently. Different world now.
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  23.  @adellia19  The problem is that you, like 99.9% of YT commenters, lack basic knowledge of criminology, including its history, and are therefore unable to place anything into context. Instead you're into righteous anger and virtue signaling, at least until tomorrow, by which time you'll have forgotten all about it.
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  24.  @wendijones5942  Sure am, thank you for noticing. While others like to gang up and publicly assume the worst about others, I like to defend the falsely accused.
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  25.  @empressdoinalot  Your point is fair; I was using the term generically, not specifically. I kind of referenced that by writing "criminology and its history."
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  26.  @empressdoinalot  You overstate the case
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  27.  @empressdoinalot  If your point is that you are highly obnoxious for no obvious reason, then we agree. I used the term appropriately. You are trying way too hard to start a fight. Find better things to do with your time.
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  28.  @empressdoinalot  At this point, you are simply trolling. Get a life.
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  29.  @jullietmburu9672  You are guilty of lying about the detective. You know that he made an honest mistake, but are choosing to falsely accuse him of framing someone.
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  30.  @Closereveryday  The judge ruled in 2021, with access to knowledge and information not available in 1996. I recommend you learn about criminology and its history before reaching conclusions.
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  31.  @jullietmburu9672  They absolutely believed they had the right individuals. Turns out they were right about one and wrong about the other. There is no basis to say that they knew that they had the wrong guy yet chose to persist in prosecuting him anyway. None of that changes the fact that Lamar was wrongly imprisoned, but a mistake is not the same as an intentional act.
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  32. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  33. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  34. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  35. Cheer up, because it almost never happens anymore, if ever. It absolutely did happen for years, centuries even. But nowadays with DNA advances and cameras everywhere, society has learned how often we were wrong up until recently. As a result, innocents have been freed everywhere, and juries demand far stronger evidence before convicting. The bad old days are gone forever.
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  36. Not corruption. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  37. Race had nothing to do with this. Nothing! Ryan Ferguson was convicted in Missouri at the same time based upon the same "eyewitness" testimony and even worse evidence than happened here. It was a different world in the 1990s; we know much, much more about criminology now than we did then.
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  38.  @melissagaynor5880  That's not what happened
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  39.  @melissagaynor5880  That is absolutely not what happened. You lack basic knowledge of criminology, and its history in particular.
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  40.  @lhoward9593  We could still have a death penalty for 100% clear cases, like Tsarnaev.
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  41.  @melissagaynor5880  "Born and bread in St. Louis" - Is that how your degrees led you to spell "bred"? Lol! You're fooling no one, sweetie. You know nothing about anything, and are just embarassing yourself here.
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  42. @Bryson Hall They didn't force him; they leaned on him in a way that was extremely standard for the entire history of photo lineups - until the last few years, when criminology figured out that they had been getting the wrong guy way too often.
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  43.  @trini1990  You know the killer is not still out there, right?
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  44.  @constitutionalli7522  Very infrequent these days. Pretty much unheard of.
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  45. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  46. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  47. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  48. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  49. Don't judge people for 30 year old decisions based upon what we know now. Criminology was in its infancy in the 1990s compared to today.
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  50.  @rullmourn1142  The grand jury thing hasn't changed, but everything else has. They thought they had the right guys back then; they were right on one guy and wrong on the other. Prosecutors were flying blind back then compared to the skills we have nowadays. It's always easy to judge people from earlier times based upon knowledge that wasn't available to them at the time. But it is not fair to do so.
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  51.  @rullmourn1142  Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about. Based upon the way things were viewed at the time, they reasonably thought they had sufficient evidence.
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  52.  @QueenSugar72  Not one person intentionally put an innocent man in prison. Those were mistakes based upon what was known at the time. It's a different world today.
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  53.  @Mynameis1212-c3f  There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  54.  @jullietmburu9672  There is no evidence to back your claim. Every indication is that they were convinced that they had the right guys. They were right about one, wrong about the other.
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  55.  @carissacarisma9668  Facts not your thing? Some people love accusing everyone of everything. I prefer facts and decency.
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  56.  @BethHarmon-yh8ms  Shame on those who have no heart, who prefer to assume the worst about others, while invariably doing the opposite for themselves. As for me, I prefer giving grace, especially when the facts clearly lean in that direction. Let me add that wise people understand the meaning of Hanlon's Razor.
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  57. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  58. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  59.  @thagreatfrank3071  Yours is a massively stupid comment
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  60. Nothing like slandering an entire group of people, nearly 100% of whom are innocent, all for the purposes of virtue signaling and getting upvotes. You poor thing. What a sad creature.
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  61.  @Mariamsadventure  The only racist here is you. Facts matter.
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  62. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  63. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  64. * is
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  65.  @bbe3034  What a bizarre comment. Why is this about you? Want to tell us what you had for lunch today while you're at it?
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  66. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  67.  @crystalfowler2336  Simply untrue. Learn the history of criminology, then get back to me.
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  68.  @crystalfowler2336  Easy to look at a case in hindsight and proclaim yourself the All Knowing. Based upon the evidence available at the time the detectives thought they had the right guys; right on one, wrong on the other. Pushing eyewitnesses to try to positively identify the perp was standard operating procedure at the time. No one knew then how frequently it produced he wrong result. You really should pipe down and educate yourself instead of going off half cocked.
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  69.  @verabolton  You are very, very confused. The OP accused law enforcement of lying, which you are conflating with the eyewitness. Get your story straight.
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  70. Very few. Things have changed over the last few decades.
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  71. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  72. If only we would get rid of the minimum wage, we would have an entranceway for young, unskilled workers to enter the workplace. Of course having two babies with two women by age 20 doesn't exactly help, does it? As to those who want a higher minimum wage? I suggest learning basic economics.
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  73. Easy to point fingers in hindsight. Everyone involved in the prosecution 30 years ago thought they had the right man. We know much more about solving crime now than we did in the 1990s.
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  74. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  75.  @VintageVera  Where did you get that number from? It is utterly baseless.
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  76. @Jacquline Making this about race shows that you are either ignorant or full of hate. Race is not a factor here, obviously, as one black man took the place of another. How many innocent whites have been convicted? Lots. Leave race out of this.
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  77. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  78.  @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053  I get emotionally invested in defending the falsely accused. Idiot commenters throw out false accusations all the time, and I get irritated. Which is why I shouldn't read this crap in the first place.
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  79.  @honeybee1969tc  Imagine if every exoneree would receive $10m. Sounds great, right? But then would the government have tried so hard to free Lamar Johnson, or others like him? Think this one through.
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  80. False. There is a world of difference between a mistake and an intentional act. This was a mistake. Criminology has advanced massively since the mid-1990s.
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  81.  @notreallycassie  I explained the facts in my comment. Educate yourself about criminology.
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  82. Some of them did, indeed. Not all. But why did some of them still believe him guilty? Strange.
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  83.  @carissacarisma9668  Facts not your thing? Some people love accusing everyone of everything. I prefer facts and decency.
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  84.  @empressdoinalot  You had a better point on the other thread. "Criminology" and "criminal science" are hardly "entirely different". While "criminal science" may be a more exact term in this instance, use of the overarching term "criminology" here is not incorrect.
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  85.  @craftycriminalistwithms.z3053  No, you're just highly ignorant. You have no understanding of what happened in this case or of criminology in general, so you're throwing out wild accusations when you don't know what you are talking about.
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