Comments by "Jim Werther" (@jimwerther) on "The Hill"
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Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn mess.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@sheilamacdougal4874
I love how you continue to change your argument, yet demand an apology simultaneously. You copy-pasted your comment onto dozens of threads in which the OP said something - anything - positive about Kim Iversen, and insisted that she didn't know what she was talking about...then went on to make a strawman argument instead of addressing what she actually said. Iversen's argument against a vaccine mandate at this point is totally correct, so instead you act as if she has denied the seriousness of Covid overall.
Speaking of apologies, when I called you out for utterly inventing a preposterous "statistic" (10m dead), you attacked me yet again, instead of apologizing. Yet you seek apology from others? Fraud.
Let's continue.
"There are documented cases of single passengers infecting many on on a flight." Uh huh. Where would those documents be? Because the actual data shows that, perhaps due to hepa filters on airplanes, Covid does not spread more on a plane than in other enclosed areas, but likely spreads less.
Next: Omicron is extremely contageous. Being vaccinated will not ultimately stop the spread. What being vaccinated will do is limit the damage - at least to those who have not had a serious prior case - to those who contracted the Omicron variant themselves. In short, the mandate helps save people from themselves, which is not the government's job.
It is true that as government overreach has reached preposterous levels, the government feels compelled to protect the citizenry from themselves in ways that should not be necessary, and were not necessary when individual responsibility was more of a thing. Doesn't make it correct though.
On to shortages: Hospitals that have a shortage of available beds are in that position because the number of beds has been artificially reduced by vaccine mandates. The same people lauded as heroes, the front-line workers who risked their lives to save everyone in the first few months of the pandemic, are now being fired despite nearly all of them having acquired natural immunity. The government has now reached the farcical point of allowing Covid-positive staff to stay on the job at medical facilities provided they are vaccinated, just so they can continue the ban on the Covid-free unvaccinated. If that doesn't demonstrate the idiocy of overarching central control and the refusal of the bureaucrats to admit wrongdoing, then what does? Go ahead, try to defend that absurdity.
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@MrHalified
I don't take Jimmy Dore seriously.
YT seems to go heavy on censorship in waves. I've had times when it seems half my comments get automatically deleted, and others when nearly everything sails through. In a previous lifetime, they deleted an earlier channel of mine, along with thousands of my comments, all in one shot, thus violating their own rules, as they provided no warning.
I've no doubt that the official Covid numbers are wildly inflated. Rochelle Walensky just admitted on Fox News Sunday that she couldn't say how many of the 850,000 US Covid deaths were due to Covid versus with Covid. And NYS Governor Kathy Hochul said that around half the hospitalized children with Covid in the state were diagnosed after being admitted for unrelated reasons, such as broken bones.
An emergency responder I know is adamant that Covid is just another flu, and that most deaths blamed on Covid were actually caused by hospitalization. That sounds wildly exaggerated to me, but I believe that it contains more than a kernel of truth.
Beware anecdotal evidence, but when my own parents got hit with very serious Covid cases early on, my siblings made the decision to keep them out of the hospital at all costs. Their doctor prescribed the HCQ cocktail, and my parents made it through, my mother just barely.
On the flip side...there are undoubtedly countries which underreport.
I do believe that the emergency is now over in the US, with most people likely having had Covid, with vaccines widely available, and with a dominant strain which is relatively mild in nature.
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