Comments by "Jim Werther" (@jimwerther) on "Piers Morgan Uncensored"
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@fernandaolivares7926
Israeli Arabs serve as doctors, lawyers, businessmen, judges, in the Israeli military, as police officers, firefighters, medics, in the Israeli Knesset (Parliament), on the Israeli Supreme Court, and everywhere else in Israeli life as full citizens, wth full voting rights, working side-by-side with their Jewish colleagues. Israeli Arab judges have convicted Israeli Jews of crimes and sent them to prison, and that includes an Israeli Arab judge who convicted a former president of Israel on corruption charges, and sentenced him to hard time. The CEO of Israel's largest bank? He's Arab too. In fact, there are more Arab doctors per capita in Israel than there are Jewish ones.
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@RC-qf3mp
Every single word Finkelstein said. How about the opening statement, when he claimed that no one knew about the carnage for four days? How about his bullschitt explanation about why he kept up his article despite it being based upon a lie? Piers didn't ask why Finkelstein didn't amend it with a note afterward explaining his supposed shift in thinking.
Piers left a lot of questions out, actually, such as:
* If Israel wanted control of Gaza, why did they hand it over fully in 2005?
* If Hamas terrorism is a response to Israeli aggression the last 17 years, then why did Hamas establish itself, and dedicate itself to extermination of all Jews, in 1988?
* If Hamas cares about their own lives, why does their founding document promise to exterminate Jews?
* If Hamas cares about their civilians, why do they hide behind them?
* If Hamas cares about their civilians, why did they stop civilians from moving south by shooting at those civilians?
* If Gaza is a concentration camp, why do they measure their lives in decades, not days or hours such as in 1940s Germany?
* If Gaza is a concentration camp, then why do you see Mercedes Benzes on the street? Why do they receive billions in aid packages? How do they build hundreds of miles of tunnels?
* If Hamas had attacked Egypt instead of Israel, would the notorious anti-Semite Finkelstein have similarly celebrated? Egypt has a border with Gaza, with a stronger separation than Israel does. Why does the anti-Semitic Feinkelstein focus on Israel instead of Egypt?
* Israel gave over Gaza in 2005, but only erected the fence in 2007, after Hamas won power and began attacking Israel. If Israel was out to get the Gazans, why did they wait a couple of years to erect a fence?
There's a start for you, based off what I remember of Finkelstein's lies. If Piers doesn't know enough to counter Finkelstein's lies, he shouldn't have him on.
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Cenk's answer once again demonstrated that he's never left his bedroom: "Why should they go to Egypt or Jordan? They're "Palestinians!" (paraphrasing) Oh, Cenk, there you go again. No, they are not "Palestinians", a fake name made up by the PLO terrorists in 1970s. They are Egyptians and Jordanians. Gaza was part of Egypt - Israel tried to give it back, but Egypt steadfastly refuses to take it. The "West Bank" was part of Jordan - Israel has tried to give it back, but Jordan steadfastly refuses to take it.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
And those are the facts.
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@betoz4438
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is not there.
The term "Palestinian" is false, recently made up for political purposes.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
I hope you find this educational.
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@natural9242
Every single word Finkelstein said was a lie.. How about the opening statement, when he claimed that no one knew about the carnage for four days? How about his bullschitt explanation about why he kept up his article despite it being based upon a lie? Piers didn't ask why Finkelstein didn't amend it with a note afterward explaining his supposed shift in thinking.
Piers left a lot of questions out, actually, such as:
* If Israel wanted control of Gaza, why did they hand it over fully in 2005?
* If Hamas terrorism is a response to Israeli aggression the last 17 years, then why did Hamas establish itself, and dedicate itself to extermination of all Jews, in 1988?
* If Hamas cares about their own lives, why does their founding document promise to exterminate Jews?
* If Hamas cares about their civilians, why do they hide behind them?
* If Hamas cares about their civilians, why did they stop civilians from moving south by shooting at those civilians?
* If Gaza is a concentration camp, why do they measure their lives in decades, not days or hours such as in 1940s Germany?
* If Gaza is a concentration camp, then why do you see Mercedes Benzes on the street? Why do they receive billions in aid packages? How do they build hundreds of miles of tunnels?
* If Hamas had attacked Egypt instead of Israel, would the notorious anti-Semite Finkelstein have similarly celebrated? Egypt has a border with Gaza, with a stronger separation than Israel does. Why does the anti-Semitic Feinkelstein focus on Israel instead of Egypt?
* Israel gave over Gaza in 2005, but only erected the fence in 2007, after Hamas won power and began attacking Israel. If Israel was out to get the Gazans, why did they wait a couple of years to erect a fence?
There's a start for you, based off what I remember of Finkelstein's lies. If Piers doesn't know enough to counter Finkelstein's lies, he shouldn't have him on.
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@anouarkrassimovich7481
I'm not. He is a deeply sick man, a Holocaust denier, and a liar who is no longer welcome among polite society due to his Holocaust denial and support of terrorism, along with the likes of David Irving, another Holocaust denier.
Those who are interested in the truth can see the reams of evidence put up for all the world to see by the likes of Megyn Kelly, Douglas Murray, Ben Shapiro and many others. Finkelstein lied from the word go here, as anyone can easily find out. It took "four days" to know that over a thousand were killed? The worldwide news reports had the number at over 1,000 in under 48 hours. That is long before we get to all of Finkelstein's other absurd lies, such as calling Gaza an Israeli-administered concentration camp. Why don't "Palestinians" go out the border they share with Egypt? Oh, right, because Egypt doesn't want them either. Neither does Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait, or any other country which has expelled them over the years, nor any of the other 50+ Muslim countries which refuses them entry. Ever wonder why that is? Ever wonder why 1.8m Muslim Arabs live comfortably as Israeli citizens while serving in the IDF, on the Israeli Supreme Court, in the Israeli Knesset (Parliament), as doctors, lawyers, businessmen and police officers?
The conditions in Gaza are 100% the fault of Hamas. If the Gazans wanted peace instead of genocide of Jews, they would have been living comfortable lives for many years already.
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@hvirus1
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@infiniterer287
You keep rattling off Hamas talking points, demonstrating your utter ignorance of the facts.
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
Israel has tried to make peace with the people of the West Bank repeatedly, but have been met with terrorism and murder instead.
Israel actually gave over Gaza and pulled out every last Jew, yet Gaza elected Hamas and began endless terrorism against Israel.
You know, maybe Hamas shouldn't have brutally attacked Israel then decided to hide behind their own civilians. Or do you want to have a new rule: "Any terrorist group can kill as many babies and rape as many women as they want, but if they hide behind their own civilians then they get away with it." Seriously??
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@infiniterer287
You keep rattling off Hamas talking points, demonstrating your utter ignorance of the facts.
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
Israel has tried to make peace with the people of the West Bank repeatedly, but have been met with terrorism and murder instead.
Israel actually gave over Gaza and pulled out every last Jew, yet Gaza elected Hamas and began endless terrorism against Israel.
You know, maybe Hamas shouldn't have brutally attacked Israel then decided to hide behind their own civilians. Or do you want to have a new rule: "Any terrorist group can kill as many babies and rape as many women as they want, but if they hide behind their own civilians then they get away with it." Seriously??
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@infiniterer287
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn mess.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@infiniterer287
1. "Israel" is mentioned by name over 2500 times in the Jewish Bible, which is around 3300 years old. "Jerusalem" is mentioned 660 times.
In the Quran, written over 1500 years later, Israel is mentioned a couple of times - as the land of the Jews.
2. The "West Bank" was occupied by Jordan between 1948 and 1967, hence the name "West Bank" - the West Bank of Jordan. It is named in the Jewish Bible as Judah and Samaria.
Israel was attacked by five countries in 1967, as those countries promised to push the Jews into the sea. Israel won the war in six days, and seized the disputed land of the "West Bank" and also Gaza, plus the Sinai and the Golan. (Yes, they expanded their tiny, indefensible borders during a defensive war. Don't start wars you can't win.) West Bank had not been the possession of any other country since the British passed it off. It was supposed to have been worked out when the British left in 1947/1948, but instead six Arab countries attacked Israel in 1948, promising to push the Jews into the sea, so the "West Bank" question was never settled, as Jordan instead occupied it. When Jordan (among others) attacked Israel in 1967 and Israel won, Israel captured that disputed area. Israel offered it back to Jordan as part of a peace deal, but even after Jordan and Israel made peace in 1994, Jordan declined the "West Bank", as they'd had their fill of the "Paletinians" (see the Black September Massacre of 1970).
Gaza was seized by Israel in that same war, from Egypt. When Egypt made peace with Israel in 1978/1979, Israel gave them the Sinai desert, a massive expanse Israel had seized in the 1967 defensive war. Egypt accepted Sinai; they turned down Gaza.
Israel would be thrilled to pass off the "West Bank" to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt, but Jordan and Egypt won't take them. Note that Egypt's wall between Egypt and Gaza is taller and stronger than Israel's wall between Israel and Gaza.
Israel gave Gaza to the "Palestinians" living there in 2005, forcibly removing every last Jew. Israel also provided aid to the Gazans. It was a tremendous chance for Gaza to flourish. Instead they elected Hamas as their government, which in turn has consistently used 80%+ of aid received into pushing terorrism against Israel. It was due to Hamas's terrorism that Israel - as well as Egypt, against whom Hamas had also used terrorism - built a wall.
3. Israel has more Eastern Jews than Western Jews living there.
4. 850,000 Jews were expelled from Muslim-run countries at the time of the 1948 War. They resettled in Israel. Stuff like this has happened in wars since time immemorial. No one else brings "refugee" status to their children, let alone their great-grandchildren.
5. In the area surrounding Israel, Israel has 57 Muslim countries around it, while Israel comprises .4% of the land-mass of the entire area, Muslim countries encompassing the other 99.6%.
6. In every 20th century British attempt at working this all out, they tried to give the Jews the Jewish areas, and the Arabs the Arab areas. Every time the Arabs complained, and every time the British expanded the land designated for Arabs, and shrank the land designated for the Jews. Are you aware that the country of Jordan (then known as Trans-Jordan) was part of the partition plan? Look at the size of Jordan, then look at how tiny Israel is in comparison. Yet the Arabs refused to let Israel be given a tiny percentage of that small perventage, while Israel agreed to every plan. The Arab countries started wars in every single decade from the 1940s onward in attempts to wipe out Israel and kill the Jews. Some of those wars ended up with the Arabs losing some of the land they'd started out with.
Had the Arabs accepted any of the two-state solutions proposed over the last century, this whole thing could have been avoided. Yet to this day the "Palestinians" refuse any deal which involves recognizing Israel's right to exist, promising to grab every inch "from the river to the sea". Therein lies the problem.
Note that in that last paragrapgh, I specified "Palestinians", as opposed to Arabs. That's because numerous Arab countries have now made peace with Israel, and found that working with Israel can be a wonderful thing. Look at Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Oman. Even Saudi Arabia was about to make peace with Israel, before Biden threw a monkey wrench into that one.
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See, Israel has wanted one thing since Day One - peace. And every time they have a willing peace partner, peace happens. War only continues with those who refuse peace under any solution - besides a Final Solution for Jews.
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@infiniterer287
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn mess.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@infiniterer287
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn mess.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@ibrahimazhar2707
You keep rattling off Hamas talking points, demonstrating your utter ignorance of the facts.
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
Israel has tried to make peace with the people of the West Bank repeatedly, but have been met with terrorism and murder instead.
Israel actually gave over Gaza and pulled out every last Jew, yet Gaza elected Hamas and began endless terrorism against Israel.
You know, maybe Hamas shouldn't have brutally attacked Israel then decided to hide behind their own civilians. Or do you want to have a new rule: "Any terrorist group can kill as many babies and rape as many women as they want, but if they hide behind their own civilians then they get away with it." Seriously??
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@RobPires
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@mansourbellahel-hajj5378
Israel is not occupying anything.
Israel was never and has never been indigenous Arab land. Look at a map of Arabia; Israel is in a different area.
The PLO invented the term "Palestinian" in the 1960s. It is utterly bogus.
Walid Shoebat, a former Muslim terrorist who at that time lived in the area that became known as the "West Bank," (another invented term) said "how can I go to bed as a Jordanian one day, and wake up the next day as a Palestinian?"
Then-PLO Executive Committee member Zahir Muhsein, in a 1977 interview, said: "The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality there is no difference between Jordanians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for our political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since the Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people,’ to oppose Zionism.”
There are many, many more quotes like that. 60 years ago, there was no term "Palestinian" to refer to Arabs living in Israel.
Jews have been living in Israel for thousands of years continuously.
When the British mandate was rolling to a close early in the 20th century, they sought to give land to both Jews and Arabs. The Jews accepted every offer. The Arabs turned down every one.
The day that Israel began on its own rather small part of the British mandate area, and only on the part given to Israel, they were attacked by six Arabs countries who swore to push them into the sea. That failed. Five Arab countries tried again in 1967. That failed spectacularly. Then an Egyptian-led coalition of five countries in 1973 that initially succeeded, but ultimately failed.
Every attempt at handing an Arab state to the so-called "Palestinians" has been turned down by the "Palestinians". That includes several before 1948, again in 1948, and again in 1998, and 2000, and 2008. Every time the "Palestinians" say no, demanding every inch of Israel, and the end of the Jews - at a minimum those living in Israel, although some call for the death of every Jew worldwide.
Israel offered Gaza to Egypt many times in the past. Egypt refuses to take it.
Israel left Gaza completely in 2005, and pushed to help establish it at as a peaceful home for the Gazans, aid included. Instead Hamas took over, and turned it into a terrorist nest, attacking civilians mostly in Israel, but also in Egypt. That is when both Egypt and Israel erected a separation for the protection of their own respective civilians.
Note that Egypt and Jordan were among the countries that had previously declared war against and attacked Israel. Israel has always offered peace to any Arab or Muslim country that wanted it. Egypt accepted in 1978/1979, and Israel gave back the entire Sinai desert, captured from Egypt five years earlier. Israel and Egypt currently have a very good working relationship.
Jordan accepted a peace deal in 1994. Since then they have a cold peace with Israel, but peace it still is.
Note that Israel made peace three years ago with Bahrain, Oman, and the UAE, and was coming very close to making peace with Saudi Arabia, a country which had attacked Israel many times (1948, 1967, and 1973). It was this outbreak of peace with the Sunni world (85% of Muslims) that caused Iran-backed Hamas (all of whom are Shia) to attack Israel.
Also note that the "Palestinians" have been in and out of many Muslim countries over the years, and have fomented upheaval and war in all of them, leading to their expulsion. They nearly overthrew Jordan, so Jordan killed 2,000 and expelled 30,000 "Palestinians". Beirut was once called the "Paris of the Middle East", until 1975 that is, when the "Palestinians" turned it into a civil-war torn hellhole.
Kuwait recently kicked out over 100,000 "Palestinians".
The Syrian civil war has been about Assad (truly an evil man) trying to get rid of his "Palestinian" problem. Asaad has killed hundreds of thousands of them; the world pays no attention.
There's a start for you. Anything else you would like me to clarify?
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@RK-um9tu
How exactly would I post evidence in a YT comment, particularly when they don't even allow for links? Anyone who cares about the truth can see the reams of evidence put up for all the world to see by the likes of Megyn Kelly, Douglas Murray, Ben Shapiro and many others. Finkelstein lied from the word go here, as anyone can easily find out. It took "four days" to know that over a thousand were killed? The worldwide news reports had the number at over 1,000 in under 48 hours. That is long before we get to all of Finkelstein's other absurd lies, such as calling Gaza an Israeli-administered concentration camp. Why don't "Palestinians" go out the back door? Oh, right, because Egypt doesn't want them either. Neither does Jordan, Lebanon, Kuwait, or any other country which has expelled them over the years, nor any of the other 50+ Muslim countries which refuses them entry. Ever wonder why that is? Ever wonder why 1.8m Muslim Arabs live comfortably as Israeli citizens while serving in the IDF, on the Israeli Supreme Court, in the Israeli Knesset (Parliament), as doctors, lawyers, businessmen and police officers?
The conditions in Gaza is 100% the fault of Hamas. If the Gazans wanted peace instead of genocide of Jews, they would have been living comfortable lives for many years already.
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