Comments by "kokofan50" (@kokofan50) on "Thunderf00t" channel.

  1. Only to people who know nothing about robotics.
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  2. The big danger is that if melts and refreezes forming an ice dam.
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  3. They showed the AI. That’s the hard part. The robot body is easy. Boston Dynamics and other companies are selling robots with hardware more than able to do what Tesla are aiming for.
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  4. Musk has openly said he’d rather be Edison because Edison actually got technology out to people.
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  5. Classic case of Germans being really good at their jobs, but missing the big picture.
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  6. This is the same problem with all of his videos about Musk
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  7. Tf00t you seriously need to get some help. This is turning into a legitimate problem.
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  8. hoshimansxl, we’re talking about ice, not liquid water.
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  9.  @catharsis3881  because economics
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  10. Unfortunately, we get to see another case of Tfoot putting his foot in his mouth
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  11. They can deorbit using their thrusters.
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  12.  @Argumemnon  because the only way you can say SpaceX hasn’t accomplished anything is if you can’t do basic math.
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  13. I find the criticism that SpaceX ditched landing a dragon capsule on Mars as they’ve been developing a much larger and more vehicle pathetic and asinine.
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  14. A microwave that heats the air into a plasma.
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  15. Tf00t has made a number of basic but very important mistakes in these videos because of his blind hatred, so no we don’t the same things
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  16. Only if you go by Tfoot’s bad math.
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  17. He does everything he sets out to do. It’s just not on the timeline he predicts at the start.
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  18. SpaceX has revolutionized the space industry, and Tesla has turned electric cars from novelties to true competition for ICE cars.
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  19. A lot of scientists suffer from envy because their work doesn’t bring them fame and fortune.
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  20.  @ilikeme1234  tell me where I said it was better than Boston Dynamics’ current robots? Don’t worry about responding. I know how you guys don’t like getting called out for moving the goalposts and other bad faith tactics.
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  21.  @chairmankaga2821  my god, the projection coming from is hilarious.
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  22. They might go bankrupt if they don’t get Starship going soon, and it’s only because they’ve got two major projects going at the same time. Also, this isn’t about the scientific community. This is about advancing humanity into space.
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  23.  @RayCromwell  no, SpaceX is a means to an end. If they abandon the end, the means are pointless.
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  24. Every time you speak, everyone can tell you know less than nothing
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  25. They can deorbit using their thrusters.
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  26.  @someguy12821  yeah, he mismanaged SpaceX to controlling 96% of the market.
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  27.  @someguy12821  and?
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  28. SpaceX is doing it for about 1/5 of that, and are lowering cost constantly
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  29. Because Tfoot isn’t an engineer who thinks of stuff like that.
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  30. We already have roof heating systems. All that need done is heating a very thin layer of water so that the snow slides off.
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  31. City lights ruined the night sky a long time ago.
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  32. You’re comparing the most basic F-150 with the highest spec model of the Cybertruck. The cyberbeast model has better specs than an F-150 Raptor and costs $30k less.
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  33. That’s a joke, right? Even Ford knows how far behind they and everyone else are Tesla
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  34. And every other CEO says the company is just going to keep making the same stuff with maybe small improvements.
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  35. Your car just senses an obstacle and stops. Teslas see objects, label them, predict what they’re doing, and plans how move without hitting them. Properly labeling everything that is on a road is huge task that machines are bad at.
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  36. This isn’t a physics problem. This is an institution problem. That is where tfoot gets it wrong.
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  37. Micro-G isn’t that big of a problem. We’ve known how to produce artificial gravity for decades and do it with carnival rides.
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  38. You spend 80+ hours a week working at Tesla and SpaceX and then say that.
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  39. Tesla is actually under valued where you factor in all the things they’re involved in
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  40.  @SamSeama  Elon is heavily involved in the engineering. He’s even worked on the line at Tesla trying to figure out how to optimize production. Do you pay attention to what you say? First you argue that he just throws money to make old ideas happen. Then you say he sells a fantasy with the implication that it won’t come true. Which is it?
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  41.  @SamSeama  last time I checked, launching rockets and building over half a million cars wasn’t a fantasy. You clearly have no idea how Tesla or SpaceX work and keep arguing from how you imagine they work. Elon was wasting just wondering around the factory with a gaggle of people around him. He was on the line figuring out how to optimize things. He’s even got a little anecdote the time an effort he wasted trying to optimize something he figured out they could just get rid of. It’s a good lesson in engineering about communication between teams and not optimizing things that don’t need to be there. Elon is objectively a terrible salesman. He’s a painfully awkward person. People fallow him because leads from the front. That means getting involved in the
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  42.  @toomanyaccounts  those are limited solutions to self driving. They’re not comparable to Tesla’s general solution, and SFD beta is already at level three.
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  43. Still probably safer than a tank of gas in your car.
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  44. Technology has progressed further and faster under capitalism than any other economic system.
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  45.  @dustinmj29  You don’t know shit about how SpaceX and Tesla are run. Elon is heavily involved in the engineering. He’s even been on the line at Tesla trying to figure out how improve the efficiency. Elon started Zip2, Xbank (which merged with PayPal), SpaceX, Boring Company, and Nuerolink. He also turned Tesla from a garage with a couple guys into a world class car company.
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  46.  @isodoublet  last month Tesla’s Model 3 became the best selling car in Europe. Tesla are building cars as fast as they can, but had to raise prices to deter demand. The heads of Ford and VW have both said Tesla is the new benchmark, but I guess you believe Biden when he says GM are the leaders in EV You’re apparently not a space enthusiast because everyone in the launch sector is either trying to copy SpaceX in someway or differentiate themselves so they don’t have to directly compete in SpaceX.
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  47. He has a master’s degree and started a doctoral program at an Ivy league school in physics
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  48.  @Beer_Dad1975  Tesla was a very smart guy, but most of inventions were curiosities use by Tesla to fill his personal curiosity. Edison, for the many things that can be said about him, his lab invented a consumer grade light bulb
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  49.  @1alayzzia  watch the AI day 2 presentation. They show a video of it taking commands and figuring out how to execute, not just fallowing preset actions.
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  50.  @sometimes-randall  what ever educational system you’ve gone through, they clearly didn’t teach you to read properly because when the word “and” is between terms it means they’re separate things. Now with that quick grammar lesson, I said ad hominems and dismissal of my points for not having arbitrary credentials, which is just an inverted form of argument from authority. I know I haven’t gone into depth the differences in how neuro nets are different from how ASIMO and the like were programmed. Frankly, I don’t think any of you yahoos would give my experiences with y’all.
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  51. This is flat earth et levels of bs. It’s sad seeing how far you’ve fallen
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  52.  @anzaca1  literally nothing works perfectly the first time. The point of a test launch is to work out problems before something valuable, like people, are on it.
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  53.  @AnEvolvingApe  so you’re saying human life isn’t valuable?
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  54. After thickening the atmosphere some, it should be possible. There’s only one way to know for sure: doing it.
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  55. You can’t trust him because of a gage item?
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  56.  @RayCromwell  the point of Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) isn’t to have a launch business. It’s to get humans to Mars. I don’t think spinning off starlink would actually help SpaceX
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  57.  @chimpana  what do you think SFD is? It’s environmental navigation AI.
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  58. SpaceX is looking like they’re going to reduce the price to the point that Elon’s drive to get to Mars might just carry them. The only reason we don’t have the technology to get to Mars is because we haven’t invested in making them.
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  59. Trucks accelerating too slowly is a major road hazard when merging onto highways, and the acceleration isn’t so much that it’s really going to damage the cargo.
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  60.  @LorandHungary  eventually is the problem. We have a lot of defunct stuff in orbit that needs to be dealt with and to not be added to.
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  61.  @gnaruto7769  yes, the broken ones can’t do it. The ones that are working can when their lifecycle is over. Just think a little about what you say so it doesn’t sound so god damn stupid
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  62. You flat earthers of the auto and space industries are a rare breed
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  63. You want to be the next “Solar Freakin’ Roadways!”
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  64. Tesla’s have the highest safety rating in of any car. FSD is 10x safer than a human. They’re are 11x less likely to catch fire than ICE car.
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  65. Thunderf00t you make some good points, but you mKe some glaring errors. The first is comparing a highly competitive industry (cars) to what was until recently a stagnant industry controlled by a government sanctioned monopoly (rockets). ULA had no reason to keep costs down. The government was going to come to them regardless. Second, comparing the Dragon to the Apollo capsule is like comparing a Tesla with a model T. While what they are and what they do is broadly the same, there have been major changes in how they work. For god sake, the Apollo used vacuum tube computers. The Dragon has a builtin abort system that allows for an abort at any point in the flight. The Apollo had an attached system that was dropped after a certain point in the flight. Third, you’re using the 1/2 trillion dollar estimate for a mission architecture that only a politician promising everyone what they want with no intention of doing anything would come up with. The plan was involved building an outerspace where the a spacecraft would be assembled. This spacecraft would then leave for Mars using electric propulsion powered by nuclear reactors that would be smaller and more power than has ever been built.
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  66. Maybe in the mirror universe
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  67. Be should be sorry for one of multiple future outcomes. Should apologize now for burning down your house. It hasn’t happened but it definitely might happen.
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  68. I find it funny how you pretend to be smart when many of your questions are answered with some very simple geometry.
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  69. Snow weighs a lot and can collapse your roof in.
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  70.  @alexwright6038  some places you can’t build a roof strong enough to handle the snow load without making it needlessly over built.
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  71. Tf00t, this tsunadere shit has got to end. It’s becoming a real problem for you.
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  72.  @Turnip_  Yeah, and Tfoot is using the wrong numbers.
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  73.  @davedogge2280  that’s like saying Ford should have worked on new stuff rather than making the Model-T and that the Wright brothers weren’t working on new technology because other people had built gliders mashed together.
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  74. The most advanced rover on Mars uses about the same amount of energy as a light bulb. It’s going to take more than a few light bulbs to change Mars.
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  75. Or everyone else is making it harder than it should be.
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  76.  @TheShadowReviewer  Tf00t is constantly comparing the second most profitable car company and the most prolific launch provider to a scam. When he’s not making factual errors, Tf00t is making the least charitable interpretation possible, like with the Teslabot. He was lambasting Tesla for hiring someone to wear a costume at the announcement. It’s common practice to have a mock-up, and no one considers them deception. Also, Tf00t likes to bad math to come to erroneous conclusions and then acts like the empirical data is wrong. He did it with calculating the cost per pound into space and cost of digging tunnels.
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  77. I have a feeling you’re the type that gets angry when you realize the celebrity you’ve been talking to for the last five minutes is really a cardboard cutout. The actor in the suit was a visual aid and a little bit of entertainment.
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  78. They went bankrupt last year.
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  79. I wouldn’t call it a scam, but an idiotic plan from a bunch of idealists who didn’t know what they were doing.
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  80. NASA had plans to be one Mars by the 80s. Nixon scraped those plans in favor of the shuttle, which put NASA’s manned program on standby for nearly the last 50 years.
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  81. False conflation on false conflation
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  82. Trump is the world’s cleanest businessman, and Musk has done what most people considered impossible
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  83. Basically a mock-up
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  84. You think the running joke is marketing?
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  85. So you hate the man because he has Aspergers, and then you construct a counter factual narrative in your head to justify it
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  86.  @figofagonagoitis  If you think he wasn’t officially diagnosed by a doctor, you’re an idiot. Moreover, he has every sign; obsessive behavior, working 80-100 hour work weeks; lack of facial expression; not understanding social cues and social awkwardness; extreme introversion; extreme honesty. I know you don’t trust him for having Aspergers because you said so without knowing, “His face expressions and eye movements indicate that he is lying.” It’s not uncommon for people to dislike those with Aspergers for not being as expressive and behaving unusually. Although, you’ve gone beyond that and found a bunch of lies to give your dislike a post hoc justification
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  87. In the US we just build roofs with enough pitch that the snow falls off. Although, heated roofs are starting to be a thing
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  88. Elon hasn’t inflated anything. Tfoot is using the wrong numbers. He’s confusing launch price with launch costs and comparing SpaceX to SpaceX, rather than competitors.
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  89. Starlink sats are in very low orbit (vlo) to keep latency down. Sats in vlo naturally deorbit in just few years
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  90. Door get stuck on other cars too, and gas cars are 11x more likely to catch fire.
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  91.  @alexthewrecker4666  I don’t care if the fire is more severe if I’m 11 times more likely to die in a less severe fire.  What says the Cybertruck can’t be?
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  92.  @doncarlodivargas5497  can you use some proper nouns?
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  93. I know next to nothing about programming, and I know your comparison between a vacuum and a self driving car is total bs.
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  94. Except it was his money. He used his own money to fund SpaceX and Tesla, and nearly went broke doing it.
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  95. People on Mars would be growing as much of their own food as they can. They can extract water from Mars and make oxygen from the Martian atmosphere or the water. Another thing they can make on Mars is fuel for vehicles to return people to Earth. Also, where are you getting that two year number from? It takes 6-8 months to get from Earth to Mars depending the trajectory you’re using.
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  96. Yeah, I have an extremely superficial understanding of how it works, and I can tell Tfoot has no idea what he’s talking about.
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  97.  @LastTrueConservative-or4ps  I didn’t miss anything. You’re just an idiot. The base model of the Cybertruck is $50k after tax incentives, not the $100k. A fair comparison to the Cyberbeat model, the $100k Cybertruck model, is an F-150 Raptor.  To use your bad argument, I can buy two Cybertrucks for every Raptor a ton of more work done therefore the Cybertruck is clearly better.
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  98. If you’re talking about Elon Musk, he hasn’t been part of PayPal in more than a decade.
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  99. Looking for life and extending civilization to another world aren’t the obvious answers as to why?
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  100. You give machines too much credit and humans too little. The probs we’ve sent to Mars are good, but a trained human could have done most of what they’ve done with a little bit of training and couple of tools. More complex science, like finding life, requires a human for the foreseeable future. Have you ever heard necessity is the mother of invention? People aren’t going to just sit around and say wouldn’t it just be dandy if we invented everything we need to build a colony on Mars for the fun of it?
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  101. You just seem to love the smell of your own farts and thinks they’re brilliant insights
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  102. Simpler, easier to produce with improved capabilities.
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  103.  @saumyacow4435  only SpaceX know for sure, but my guess is that they’re too large to be stacked in the fairing like V1.
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  104.  @saumyacow4435  size/shape and simplicity are completely unrelated qualities.
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  105.  @Argumemnon  How many rockets from the 60s were reusable? Substantially driving down costs is an accomplishment. Starship has had several test flight. We’re currently waiting for SpaceX to have enough raptor engines for an orbital test.
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  106.  @Argumemnon  SpaceX started a competition, and even in the unlikely event SpaceX goes out of business, that competition isn’t just going to disappear. Rocket Lab just released the design of their new Neutron rocket, which will have a similar payload to the Falcon9, but it will be even more reusable.
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  107. Tesla have released multiple videos of crash testing
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  108. The engine is pressure fed. The internal pressure will keep the fuel and oxidizer from sloshing, not to mention the tanks will be nearly full when the engine starts.
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  109. No, Tfoot is just wrong. He makes some major errors. I think part of it is his personal animosity towards Elon Musk, and he tends to just take what is given as what must be.
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  110. They sell cars is how they’re in business.
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  111. Solar is a waste of time until we’re building a Dyson swarm, and I’ve only ever seen people who hate the man dismayed at Musk doing something
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  112.  @ghoch3 A single family home isn’t a example for the entire grid
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  113.  @ghoch3  I said it’s a waste of time. The time and money used on solar could have been used on more reliable sources of power.
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  114. it varies a lot.
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  115. Tsunadere are going to tsunadere
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  116.  @fushisu  yes, I don’t know were the a came from
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  117. Yeah, SpaceX haven’t improved rockets, Tesla haven’t improved electric cars, etc.
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  118. A cone
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  119. You obviously haven’t seen Boston Dynamics.
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  120. That makes no sense. Those are all arbitrary, and some are even harder than getting to Mars.
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  121. No, people who know enough about this subject to know where Tfoot got stuff really wrong.
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  122. Taking on new challenges is worthwhile end in itself. To grow humans have to be challenged, but in the West we have no real challenges left. Mars is the challenge we need.
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  123. You clearly don’t know much about this topic. In a ranking of the most hospitable places in the solar system the Earth is a clear winner, but Mars is a solid second. Mars has important resources the moon doesn’t have, not that I’m against setting up bases on the moon along with Mars. In fact, there’s something like an 80% overlap between the technology needed for the moon and Mars. Speaking of technology, Mars has all the resources needed to make methane for fuel, which is why SpaceX’s raptor engine uses methane. As for danger, everything worth doing has risks. Even things that aren’t worth much have life and death risks. How many foot ball players have their lives significantly shortened or killed because people want to be entertained? Exploring and then colonizing Mars is worth a lot more than see some guys trying to get a ball from one side of a field to another.
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  124. You should learn how to read properly. I wrote that Mars is the second most hospitable place in the solar system. I know for someone with an IQ below 70 it’s hard to understand the difference between that and Mars being a nice place for people to live. You’re low IQ also explains why you I think I don’t care about safety because I think if we’re going to risk people’s lives we should do it doing something important.
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  125. ReconissanceMa, thanks for further proving my point that you’re stupid. If you don’t want to be hit harder, don’t make your argument about how intelligent the other person is.
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  126. Thanks for proving more and more you have nothing of use to say.
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  127. People keep telling Tf00t that, but he keeps repeating the nonsense
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  128. Starship is pretty cheap to build. It’s the raptor that was eating money and now starlink
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  129. Tesla is the second most profitable car company on Earth.
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  130.  @ct1762  Tesla are by far the most experienced electric vehicle manufacturer. In some ways EV’s have more in common with vacuums or hairdryer than other cars, and that’s just the basic elements. More advanced stuff like the octo-valve, giga-casting, or custom microchip designs. The only thing the Taycan had better made were the body panels. It also took half the time to charge because it has half the range. Moreover, what you’re evading is the fact Tesla are constantly improving their cars.
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  131.  @ct1762  holly shit, you’re ignorant. Tesla has had problems with the fitting of body panels, but that’s the only place Porsche beats Tesla in quality.
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  132.  @ct1762  sounds like you’ve bought into myth rather than facts. Look up Munro Live. It’s run by Munro and Associates; they break down cars and sell engineering reports. They have nothing but praise for Tesla with the exception of the body panels.
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  133. Plants are much more radiation resistant than humans, but the amount of radiation on Mars would barely increase a person’s risk of getting cancer.
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  134. Because Tfoot is wrong on key points.
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  135. Lots of people have said that on basically every video involving Elon, but Tf00t still hasn’t listened.
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  136. An ivory tower
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  137. Edison made useful inventions and brought them to market. Tesla was happy making toys to play with. Don’t get me wrong he was a brilliant guy, but not a lot of what he did real change people’s lives.
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  138.  @RetroGamebloke  Menlo Park invented plenty of stuff, but you’re right it wasn’t Edison himself doing most of it. Also, AC generators were independently invented by another guy, and would have won out regardless.
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  139. The big time suck is the FAA.
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  140. Limited solutions will only ever be that.
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  141.  @JulianDanzerHAL9001  they’re bandaids at best, and dead ends that will destroy companies at their worst. Also, neither have Elon nor Tesla lied. When someone gives you an estimate, don’t take it as definitive, particularly in something like AI.
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  142.  @pitsahat2  estimates are just that. It’s what people believe it will take. Often they’re wrong because you don’t understand the size and scope of the task until you’re actually doing it. There’s no lying in being wrong.
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  143.  @JulianDanzerHAL9001  Can you try forming a coherent paragraph. You gave me a jumble of three half formed ideas. There’s no way I can properly respond to that.
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  144.  @lordstorm88  Elon is hyper optimistic. He’s wrong most of the time about the timeline, but he gets it done and faster than anyone else.
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  145.  @anzaca1  NASA has never propulsively landed an orbital rocket booster, and SpaceX are the first company to launch people into space.
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  146. Boston Dynamics has great robots, but the robots aren’t planning their actions.
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  147. The spinner’s main job is to get the rocket into the upper atmosphere. Space-guns have been looked into and abandoned for several reasons. You can’t cheat physics. It costs the same amount of energy either way. The big difference is that spinlaunch gets reused, and can be used much more frequently. Those change the economics. High altitudes are good but most launches get a 1,000 mile per hour boost from low latitudes.
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  148. He doesn’t have $ billions sitting in a bank account. He owns stocks worth billions.
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  149. SpaceX have completely changed the space industry, and Tesla has turned electric car from niche hippie cars into real competition for ICE cars.
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  150. Mars has large amounts of water. Enough for shallow oceans, in fact. Antarctica is routinely colder than Mars. The radiation is negligible. Even being cautious, the cancer risk increase is 1% per year. That’s less than eating bacon regularly.
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  151. He doesn’t have $200 billion in the bank, and space is humanity’s future.
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  152.  @clintholmes2061  as part of but the entirety of the human domain
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  153.  @clintholmes2061  please tell me you don’t know anything about the space industry without saying you don’t know anything about the space industry.
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  154.  @clintholmes2061  people living in space isn’t the same as the space industry
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  155.  @clintholmes2061  along with other places. You can’t live in your crib all your life.
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  156.  @orchdork775  you need to learn to read whole sentences rather than just glomming on to parts.
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  157. Large parts of the US get a lot of snow too, mostly lake and seashore. Around the Great Lakes it’s normal to get several feet of snow.
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  158.  @tahustvedt  and there are several places in the US that get double that.
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  159. Tesla has been working on their AI for years already and have a lot of experience in electric devices that move on their own power.
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  160.  @gracialonignasiver6302  yeah, AI is harder.
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  161.  @gracialonignasiver6302  There are actually a few companies with animal like robots, but none that have an AI that can match a human except for in very specific ways.
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  162.  @gracialonignasiver6302  if you can build a spot clone, you can build an atlas, and we’re discussing what’s harder, the software or hardware. Seeing as there are multiple vendors offering roughly the equivalent hardware, while there’s no one with software anywhere near what Tesla is going to use.
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  163. Tfoot, you take jokes way too seriously.
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  164. Virgin orbit did that a few weeks ago.
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  165. NASA had plans to get to Mars by the 80s
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  166. Religious institutions being exempt from taxes they would otherwise pay is not a truce. That is the definition of a tax break.
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  167. It’s very possible. There are lots of videos of optical illusions from plan and helicopter props. There’s even one of a helicopter that looks like the blades aren’t moving because their rotation speed matches the shutter speed of the camera filming it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr3ngmRuGUc
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  168.  @theultimatereductionist7592  do you understand life time cost isn’t the same as sticker price?
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  169. You’re completely clueless. SpaceX and Tesla pay equal or better as other companies, and Elon only asks that people work as hard as he does
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  170. It’s not hard to get perchlorates out of water. You just have to distill the water. Also, height is controlled by genetics, so people aren’t going to turn into giants on Mars.
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  171. There’s a channel called Munro live that shows some of the stuff the company Munro and Associates break down and evaluate. At first they were extremely critical of Tesla because frankly when the broke down a 2016 Tesla, it was a mess. Now they have nothing but glowing praise. The gigacasting, octo-valve and nearly everything else are master classes on good engineering.
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  172. Because he’s too busy.
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  173.  @mihaimoldo  they said autopilot is a lane assist system. Autopilot and FSD beta are different things.
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  174.  @toomanyaccounts  come back when you have some clue what you’re talking about.
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  175.  @freund333  BD make great robots, but they’ve never made a profit
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  176.  @freund333  obviously there aren’t any yet. Tesla just announced they’re developing like 6 moths ago.
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  177. Never because the deliveries are going to be starting next year.
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  178. Yes, such a great way to lose control of a company.
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  179. Holmes’s company never made anything. Tesla just set a record number of cars delivered, and SpaceX are eating everyone’s lunch with more launchs than Russia and competing with China for the most this year.
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  180. Tesla has been operating in the black for years, and last quarter they were the second most profitable car company in the world.
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  181.  @rickb2432  1) the vast majority of Tesla’s revenue is from car sells. 2) even if Teslas still qualified —Tesla sells too many evs to qualify for the old tax credit, and Biden’s new one is only for companies that use union workers—, thats a consumer tax credit, which means the person buying the car gets the money off of their taxes.
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  182. Yeah. It wouldn’t even be too hard to make it zoned.
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  183. Tesla controls 70% of the EV market in the US. The next best seller is the Ford Mach E with 10%, and the rest are little more than rounding errors compared to Tesla. Tesla are easily the leaders in self driving. Their update 10 software is revolutionary. Their closest competitor is Waymo, who se cars are locked in one area with preplanned routes.
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  184.  @toomanyaccounts  being sued just means someone wants something from you, not that they’re right. Electric bicycles and like are in an entirely different category from cars, so don’t make shit up. Also, electric buses and other large vehicles are extremely rare.
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  185.  @thisismonitor4099  you can say what ever you like as often as you like, but that doesn’t make your assertions anything more than hot air. All of the of the self driving providers are hugely deficient compared to Tesla. Tesla’s version 10 of their SFD is working in working in vector space to make active productions of where the car and other objects are going to be. No other company is doing that. They’re all working in image space, which is just looking at where the car and other objects are.
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  186.  @thisismonitor4099  you’re a great example of of someone with a really high IQ being a complete moron. Waymo and the others with geofenced cars are a dead end. A localized solution may take a false lead, but it’s going to be out competed general solution that can go anywhere. Waymo works like a more flexible local bus service. Trying to scale that isn’t going to work. The best that’s going to happen is a patchwork of areas. You’re criticisms of Tesla’s SFD are from the previous versions that aren’t using vector space. Part of the reason working in vector space is such an improvement is that the problem in parking-lots and other places are solved. Tesla’s predicted accuracy are already higher than humans under all but the rarest situations, and their data pool is incomparable to all of the others. The other companies have a few hundred cars collecting data to improve their AI with. Tesla has millions of cars sending back data to train their AI with.
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  187. Yeah, because SpaceX doesn’t launch rockets, Tesla doesn’t build cars, etc.
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  188. Companies are always balancing the inputs and outputs, quality being just one output. For example, the model T wasn’t the best car Ford could build, but it was the car Ford could build at a cost the middle class consumer could afford. That’s, also, not to say some companies try saving money by cutting corners. Unless you’re products are competing against each other, there no reason not to bring a new or improved product to market. I mean, if you can up stage the competition, more people will buy your product.
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  189. If you’re roof has solar panels, you want the snow off your roof so the panels can produce electricity.
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  190. You obviously have no idea how ideas work.
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  191.  @anzaca1  literally every new idea is just a remix of other ideas.
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  192.  @anzaca1  being bad at estimating how long it takes to develop something isn’t lying.
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  193. Atlas from Boston Dynamics is much more advanced than ASIMO.
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  194.  @wakeangel2001  yes and yes. Although, to my knowledge it’s only been other people working on robotics who have bought it to run their own software on. The more widely used of their robots is the dog sized one.
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  195. Why do you want to go to the most desolate bodies in the solar system if you think Mars is too cold? Also, I want to add that places like Minneapolis, in winter, get colder than large areas of Mars.
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  196. It’s remarkable how many of these replies are, nu ua you are.
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  197. Lex Fridman, an MIT AI researcher, said Tesla is beyond state of the art.
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  198.  @MrXperx  people who properly look into Tesla or their cars tend to become fans. Tesla has some of the best engineers in the world, and they seem to be making huge advances in in the technology
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  199.  @MrXperx  people were saying the same thing about how Tesla and SpaceX are just going to get stomped. SpaceX is currently eating everyone’s lunch, and Tesla has over 70% of the EV market in the US —other companies are even imitating Tesla’s features. Elon is very good at leading teams that find and attack the core of the problem. Those huge teams are terrible at that; they just keep doing what they’ve been doing.
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  200. No, broken glass is a safety hazard; glass in cars is designed to break in relatively safe rounded pieces. Emergency personnel would be much better off using glass breakers the few times they need to get people out of through a window.
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  201.  @stormagedden785  that’s because glass has properties that can be exploited.
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  202.  @stormagedden785  that’s because glass has properties that can be exploited.
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  203.  @moshunit96  and I pointed out how that’s not true
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  204.  @salvatronprime9882  yeah, carjackings aren’t up 300% in some cities, and rioters haven’t been known to attack cars
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  205. Because renewables are just bad in every way you can think of.
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  206. lunacron, just as bad as what? Fossil fuels? No, they aren’t. They’re worse because they distract from real solutions.
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  207. Nuclear and gas plasmafication.
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  208. Fusion gets billions of dollars every year
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  209.  @isodoublet  seeing as my last comment disappeared, I’ll write another one. Here’s stuff about the Ford and VW CEOs said https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLNr3AgekSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEUbce3HlkA Reasoning from analogy is bad reasoning. People ignoring a good source of energy isn’t the same as figuring out if something is popular or not. Teslas are at price and range parity. Their charge time isn’t too bad. EV has a whole are 1/11th as likely to catch fire as ICE cars Biofuels are a joke. They return less energy than goes into making them. Nice try to deflect from my point
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  210.  @isodoublet  you need to go back to school and learn what an analogy is because you’re comparison of the Model 3 to nuclear power is what’s called an analogy. You also make it abundantly clear people are irrational. Recharge/refuel time isn’t the same thing as range, and you just ignored everything else. Now, you have to be playing stupid. No intelligent person is going to misunderstand energy invested in and energy taken out as some kind of argument that biofuels aren’t perpetual motion machines that some how break the laws of physics. I was obviously talking about the energy humans put in compared to the usable energy we get out. Brazil just makes up the difference between what they use and the ethanol they make with other sources of energy
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  211. You do know holdings aren’t liquid capital.
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  212.  @THEREALZENFORCE  he sold that to pay taxes from Biden, and SpaceX aren’t bankrupt. They’re looking at the possibility.
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  213. He sold a portion of his holdings in Tesla to cover a tax hick from Biden.
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  214.  @granodiorite9032  in assets, not cash
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  215.  @problemsolver3254  he’s constantly confusing assets for liquid capital.
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  216. Yes, you luddite
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  217. Stupid people are going to think stupid things regardless of what we do, so letting them dictate our actions makes no sense.
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  218.  @efabiano82  have you seem ASIMO? It’s nothing close to this, particularly when you understand even a little bit about the differences in how this and ASIMO move. ASIMO had to carefully plan every action and couldn’t correct it self at all. This uses a neutral net to create adaptive actions as it goes along.
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  219.  @azalago  oh my god, the second generation prototype that’s still being built isn’t completely functional! We all know a prototype that an as of yet unfinished is 100% accurate representation of all capabilities
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  220.  @darricshhh  I’ve already explained that the architecture of the software is completely different from anything from the 90s, and I also pointed out the differences in how the Tesla bot moves. The hardware is still lacking, as one would expect from a prototype less than a year after they started. The only bs here is you trying to act too cool to like popular things, like a little kid. If you were actually thinking critically, you wouldn’t be using logical fallacies like ad hominems and trying to see if I’ve got credentials you can submit to or dismiss.
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  221.  @Sabundy  y’all is a contraction of ye all dating back to at least the 1700s and most likely back to Early Modern English (Shakespearian English), possibly even into Middle English. It’s one of many archaic features found in some American dialects. Just unknowingly keep that centuries old bigotry against the Scottish dialect going because it’s far away from London where the powerful people lived.
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  222.  @memkiii  you’re clearly willfully blind. I can’t argue with someone who refuses to see the proof in front of him.
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  223.  @memkiii  you have half an idea of what you’re talking about, but that still makes you wrong. “Ye” is an archaic third person singular with “ye all” being the alternative to the third person plural “you” in some old dialects. The only explanation I have for the mistake you’re making is the you’re confusing the informal third person plural “thee” with “ye”. You need to get your eyes checked because I didn’t use anything like a slur.
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  224. @ItBurnsWhenIP I made a typo. Oh no! My points that “y’all” is a centuries old contraction and hypocrisy of considering “y’all” improper while using “ain’t” are completely invalid. You say I don’t support what I say and literally the next sentence you say I misuse “ad homine” without any support. I’m fine being a joke to idiots like you.
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  225. @ItBurnsWhenIP You want to chastise me for not capitalizing the a in Ad hominem? This is extremely casual writing. Also, seeing as English is your 3rd language, you’re probably mistaking high level writing technique —although, typically ones only used in creative writing— for writing mistakes. I am sorry; I forget that there are a lot of non-native speakers who are easily confused by less common writing techniques.
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  226. @ItBurnsWhenIP now, you’ve got to just be a troll. All of the words are spelt right.
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  227. @ItBurnsWhenIP No, you just don’t know how English words are spelt. You should try looking the words individually so you can learn how they’re spelt.
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  228. @ItBurnsWhenIP You said I maid spelling errors then go talking about commas and other thing. I also enjoy as you’re criticizing my “mistake” you’re making lots of your own. You don’t add periods to lists like that, and you even forgot one. Spelt is a the archaic form of the past participle of spell.
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  229.  @jaswik2023  you idiots need to be more specific than saying “that”. There are 170 comments in this thread and like two dozen to me. To answer your questions: because it doesn’t need to. The Tesla-bot’s job isn’t to run and obstacle or hold a dance recital.
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  230.  @ohko3892  having an argument about what is instead of some construct is important. How else are we going to actually have a productive conversation about something if we’re not actually talking about it?
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  231. Tesla invented the alloy that allowed for the gigacastings and IDRA are still working with Tesla.
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  232. You should watch Tesla’ AI day because they’re going beyond that.
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  233. I’m not sure I would say they’re late. Elon always sets ridiculous time lines that were never going to be met, but SpaceX and Tesla do things faster than anyone else in their industry.
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  234. No, just making cars has been profitable for a while now
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  235. Landing on Mars is easier than both of those, and 80% of the technology needed to land and live on the moon is applicable to Mars.
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  236. Depends on what planet you’re on.
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  237. That is some creationists level of bs.
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  238.  @BobPagani  a week ago at their AI day, where Elon dropped the news they’re going to develop robots.
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  239.  @jcd-k2s  yeah, answering questions is much easier, which is why you’re phone can do it. Tesla’s self driving is already safer than humans in most circumstances, and with training, it’s going to be far more capable than any AI.
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  240.  @nguyenhongquang6397  it’s a lot less than 5%. Also, I’ve been put in the hospital because of bad human driving and know the statistics, so I don’t hold humans up as a great standard. Moreover, Tesla’s self driving is learning and fast.
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  241.  @jcd-k2s  the perfect driver would never have an accident, which is an irrational standard when better than human is a huge improvement in safety. FSD is already safer than humans, except in rare edge cases, so I’m going to have call bull on that 50 mile claim without some kind reliable source. Tesla never claimed their AI was finished, nor have I. The whole point of dojo is for them to train the AI and not have to go in and add code. Moreover, I don’t think the cars can tell the difference between hazards, so you’re idea wouldn’t work.
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  242.  @durshurrikun150  no, they’re on their phones, don’t check their mirrors, ignore stop signs, etc.
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  243.  @durshurrikun150  no, they’re not.
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  244. Because instead of different administrations getting rid of the last plan and starting all over along with the manned space program being run to keep the contractors doing things.
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  245. He has one dozens. You just willfully ignore them so you can keep indulging in your spite.
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  246. After having watched the video, I’m still waiting for the debunking.
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  247.  @randomname4726  show just one thing that doesn’t have a long developmental history
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  248. That’s far from pointless. It makes the Cybertruck lighter and cheaper. Not doing that kind of thing is why the Hummer EV weighs 10,000 pounds
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  249. Mars One went bankrupt a few months ago.
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  250. What mirror universe do you live in?
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  251.  @grzlbr  ad hominems are really convincing arguments. 100% serious.
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  252.  @grzlbr  go home; you’re drunk.
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  253. Yeah, Tf00t is a smart guy, but his terrible understanding of economics is holding back his evaluations.
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  254. His goal isn’t just to make money, and anti-trust laws are a thing.
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  255.  @andrewharrison1194  Elon’s goal is eudaemonia (roughly human flourishing). Money is just the means to get there. Also, anti-trust laws would break of the company for trying something like you suggested.
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  256. Tesla’s are the safest cars on the road, so stop lying
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  257. How is solar roadways trying to glom on any bit of credibility to a reflection on the other people?
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  258. No humans on Mars = no terraforming. We would like to get started as soon as possible, so as many generations can enjoy a terraformed Mars as possible.
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  259. Your lawyer files the paperwork like any other law suit then you hire someone to serve them in their country. They then hire council in the jurisdiction the case is being held in. It’s not really much different from suing a person in a different state.
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  260. Working hard is just terrible, and it’s just so dictatorial that employees have to answer to their boss
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  261.  @aruspice  you sound like a haughty “professional” too good to move boxes and other simple stuff.
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  262. People do longer stays on subs all the time.
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  263.  @hermitoldguy6312  Looks like you’re so old you’ve entered your second childhood with such great arguments as “nugh uhh you are” How can I possibly respond to that?
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  264. You probably think you’re going to invent something better than the wheel
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  265.  @conradtm  and you miss my point completely. Some times things are how they are because that’s the best way.
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  266.  @conradtm  there absolutely nothing unscientific about saying something needs to be supported by something and that reducing the resistance by making the contact point roll is a good thing.
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  267. Those are all arbitrary goal posts that have zero to do with our technical abilities.
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  268. Setting arbitrary goals is not more reasonable. There is no good reason to say we can only do something after we’ve long had the physical and financial ability.
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  269. The F-150 lighting and Rivian RT1 are just as heavy
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  270.  @BrentWalker999  So the it won’t sell in the EU is a mute point. Happy we’ve come to a common understanding
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  271. Say you have a 200 billion dollar house but keep your job. Can you just pay a billion dollars for your electric bill.
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  272.  @labibbidabibbadum  the point is selling off your assets to fund them is idiotic. These aren’t vanity projects; they’re businesses.
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  273.  @labibbidabibbadum  when is a contract for work a subsidy? Contracted work is what a business is supposed to survive off of. You sound as economically illiterate as the socialists.
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  274.  @labibbidabibbadum  you start off talking about NASA contracts. Then you jump to SolarCity, which wasn’t part of Tesla when they took the subsidies. Don’t get me wrong betting on solar is stupid, and his personal life is a mess. You just hate the man for your own irrational reasons.
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  275.  @labibbidabibbadum  I don’t particularly disagree with you, but you’re anger is directed at someone who hasn’t done what you’re angry about.
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  276. And when are you going to admit you’re full of shit after that doesn’t happen? When he’s retired on Mars?
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  277. If you understand physics so much better, go build a reusable rocket. I’m sure it will be better in every way.
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  278.  @shanewilson7994  now you’re just confusing Elon for Jeff Bezos and BO.
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  279.  @shanewilson7994  the results clearly prove otherwise, but hey, the creationists are happy to have you in lala land.
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  280.  @shanewilson7994  the reusable rockets SpaceX are flying. The hundreds of thousands of cars Tesla delivers each quarter.
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  281.  @shanewilson7994  your willful ignorance is terrifying. Elon is heavily involved in the engineering. The whole reason he started SpaceX was because of the massive disparity between the cost of a rocket and material costs. No body came to his with some design asking for money. Moreover, there’s never been an orbital rocket that has a reusable booster.
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  282.  @shanewilson7994  nothing is new then. Ferdinand Porsche invented the car, so Ford’d Model T wasn’t different or important.
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  283.  @shanewilson7994  how did I miss represent you?
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  284.  @Marmocet  microwaves heat asymmetric molecules there are plenty of asymmetric molecules in the air.
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  285. Yeah, hundreds of thousands of cars and hundreds of rocket launches with dozens being reused rockets is a scam.
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  286. @Stein Mauer you know that steam engines and railroads both existed long before the first steam train, right? You don’t have to invent fundamentally new technology to make a massive breakthrough in technology.
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  287. @Stein Mauer Tesla is the only company working on a general solution to autonomous driving. To that end, they’re the only ones working in vector space, like animals (including humans) do. Teslas are actually calculating how they think the world around them will be and planning accordingly. All other autonomous cars work in image space and just reacting to the environment around them, while driving along their preset routes. Machine learning is a technique, so of course other companies are going to be using it.
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  288.  @primus711  “some of those demos looked controlled by a person in vr” that’s because it’s a robot (computer representation of the world like with VR) working in vector space (how animals navigate the world).
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  289.  @primus711  a vector is a line segment with both direction and magnitude. One of the things I remember from Calculus in high school. Although, you might want to start with Vector from Despicable Me.
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  290.  @primus711  that’s a line segment. A vector has magnitude and direction. When graphed, a vector is represented as a arrow with the length indicating the magnitude and the plot indicating direction.
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  291. By the end of the year, SpaceX will have done something only nations have: sent humans into space. They’ve also done it for a fraction of the cost, in the same time, and made most of the rocket reusable. SpaceX is something special.
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  292. Don’t bother. Tf00t doesn’t understand economics.
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  293. No, he can’t. He doesn’t have billions in the bank. I doubt he has million.
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  294.  @lohphat  to pay taxes that are being hiked up on him.
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  295.  @onradioactivewaves  y’all are literally saying that a man who stumbles over over words are conmen because of it
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  296.  @perwestermark8920  lemon is clearly talking out of a places of ignorance to anyone with even a tiny bit of training on public speaking I know a little about public speaking, and unless you’re a really strong public speaker, problems like stammering happen when you’re not on script. Lemon is basically the equivalent of a flat earther of public speaking.
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  297.  @onradioactivewaves  if liar stammer, then stammering is therefore a sign of liar. At best this assertion is poor post hoc reasoning
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  298.  @perwestermark8920  logic, like math, has to be able to be run in reverse. Lemon is asserting that Musk is A and that A is caused by B. If we work it backwards, A is a sign of B because B caused A.
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  299.  @aucunrespect9598  relevant to these comments, basic logic and basic public speaking skills.
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  300.  @perwestermark8920  with the nonsensical crap people from universities are coming up with nowadays, the logic classes don’t seem to be very good.
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  301.  @perwestermark8920  if I’m so wrong, show me how I’m wrong; don’t use logical fallacies (specifically argument from authority). Knowledge is demonstrated, not asserted.
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  302.  @perwestermark8920  I agree, but Lemon asserted we know the cause by only observing the effect. If we can tell the cause by the effect, then there is only one possible cause, which is what I was pointing out as wrong in lemon’s logic.
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  303.  @onradioactivewaves  automatic guns have a theoretical maximum fire rate that’s calculated just on what the mechanism can do and real world fire rate, which is calculated with barrel heating, changing mag., etc.. Elon always gives his estimate of the theoretical rate. Some of those estimates are wildly off, and others are actually pretty accurate. The one thing that’s certain is that he’s going to push the boundaries
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  304.  @perwestermark8920  put the hate boner away. No one wants to see it. You’re claims are also rather lacking in specifics. In 1901 a world class physicist said powered flight was impossible. Lots of smart people proclaim things impossible without analyzing something from the first principles. Getting to orbital speeds, traveling a partial orbit, and reentry is well within human tolerance. The Space shuttle’s transoceanic abort mode was basically what SpaceX is planning on doing.
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  305.  @perwestermark8920  Starship isn’t a ICBM. You’re basically saying a minivan is impossible because race-cars are something. Humans are capable of with standing the 3 Gs Starship is well within human tolerance. Rollercoasters have higher Gs. SpaceX has some of the best engineers in the world; go tell them what engineers do and don’t know.  Finally, cut down on the bloviating. The couple of things I could respond to were inside mounts of waffle, as the Brits would say.
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  306. You’re get the order wrong. The point is to create a backup before something bad happens.
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  307. No, Tf00t is JJ Jameson to Elon’s Spiderman.
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  308. Yeah, how many successful launches has Boeing done with their Starliner?
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  309.  @tomservo5007  a long history badly under preforming. taking years longer than they were supposed to with massive cost over runs.
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  310.  @tomservo5007  space is hard isn’t an excuse of the sheer ineptitude Boeing has shown. They had dozens of potentially lethal programming errors on Starliner. It’s so bad the guy scheduled to ride in it retired rather than face that death trap. They have a storied history, but they sure as hell aren’t living up to that legacy. That goes for all the other Old-space heavy weights too.
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  311. Tfoot doesn’t care if he doesn’t get to hate Elon Musk.
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  312. PSI.
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  313. They’ve got the hard part, AI, working.
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  314.  @martinbernath  I’m not saying the hardware is going to be simple, but it’s definitely the easier of the two tasks because many of the problems have been solved. Boston Dynamics has some of the best hardware and the best movement algorithms. However, the planning and learning is done by humans, and that’s where Tesla’s AI is revolutionary
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  315. You’re talking about doing things that require humans before sending humans. That’s not going to work.
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