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Comments by "" (@charliemoore2551) on "Why I’m Off the Fence About Israel’s War - Konstantin Kisin" video.
"It was land that was taken during the Islamic conquests and forcefully evicted or killed (Assyrians are an example) the indigenous residents of whichever land said conquests occupied" In the time of Islamic conquests, the value of land was dependent on there being people to work it. It would have been absurd to conquer a territory and then drive out or kill its population. That would be like stealing a car and then smashing up its engine. Far from killing Chistians and Jews, the Islamic conquerors absorbed them and protected them as "people of the book". Over time, many converted to Islam but many communities remained such as the Assyrian Christians in Mesopotamia, the Egyptian Copts or the Armenians - though they got massacred when Turkey became a secular country.
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@JeremyChristos Agreed. And, unlike the lurid lies about October 2023, they actually HAPPENED!
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I have to admire him for keeping a straight face as he lies through his teeth. Israel has admitted that the Hannibal Directive was used to murder potential "hostages" - accounts for most of the deaths, The special prosecutor appointed by Israel has found NO evidence of any rapes at all and the Rabbi who claimed that there were murdered babies has admitted that he lied. What are you left with? A successful military option to take what were mostly military captives to trade for prisoners illegally held by the Israels. It was a perfectly legal operation under the right to resist which all occupied peoples have.
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The "atrocities can't even be proved. In fact, they have been completely debunked. Yoav Gallant just admitted that the Hannibal Directive was used - which explains most of the deaths. The Rabbi who claimed that he saw mutilated babies admits that he lied and the special prosecutor appointed by Israel has admitted that there is no credible evidence for ONE single sexual assault, let alone the series of mass rapes claimed. It was all lies. The attack was to capture POWs to trade for the hostages Israel holds. It was a military operation which is perfectly legal under the legal right to resist that all occupied people have.
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@steve10 You're right down the Islamophobe rabbit hole, aren't you? It was the Christian countries that burnt people to death for being heretics. Have you never heard of the Inquisition? The Russian and Polish Pogroms? That's why there were such large Jewish communities in places like Salonika and Tehran. They fled to Muslim countries to escape persecution by Christians. I suggest you consult a properly researched history rather than relying on the sort of nonsense you get on You Tube.
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"were they had lived in often deep oppression for a thousand years, " And why had they fled to such countries? And why did they stay there for a "thousand" years if they were living in "deep oppression"? Because remaining in Christian countries would have got them burned at the stake, perhaps? Because they lived relatively privileged lives as the educated class in such countries? And it's worth bearing in mind that "deep oppression" usually meant not being burned at the stake as it did under the Inquisition in Christian countries. It's so easy for extreme right ideologues like Kisin to fool people when they're unable to think through what they're actually saying themselves!
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@videojgl Dhimmi was a tax paid to avoid military service. Jews were free not to pay it and be conscripted. Many did that. And yes, they were often refugees from Christian countries where they were mortally persecuted. Thesalonika had a massive Jewish population composed almost entirely of Jews who had escaped the inquisition in the Hapsburg empire. The Ottomans made them welcome because they had useful skills and were generally good for the economy. Equally many of the Jews of North Africa came from persecutions in Spain and France. There were native Jews who were the descendants of those who had been converted over the years too. Jews and Christians in Muslim countries tended to be the better educated and occupied respected professions. This continued right into the twentieth century. And even beyond the so-called "Arab Nakba" there were significant Jewish populations in Iran and most North African countries. And yes, when there were hard times, both Christians and Jews were scapegoated to take the heat of the rulers. But these were nothing compared to the pogroms of the Christians. Your prejudice clouds you to the obvious historical fact that it was in Christian countries that Jews were primarily persecuted. England expelled its Jews after murderous pogroms in the 12th century. France had a wave of pogroms in the 14th century when Jews were blamed for the Black Death. Perhaps you've never heard of The Inquisition in Spain, the Low Countries and Central Europe? The Russians held periodic pogroms, culminating in the 19th and early 20th century when much of its Jewish population was expelled into Eastern Europe. And of course, the ultimate Christian pogrom was the Holocaust when between 5 and 8 million Jews were massacred in Christian countries - often with the open co-operation of priests and local Christian populations. Look up Babi Yar, for example. I'm an atheist. But it's clear to me that all religions (including Judaism) have pretty nasty skeletons in their closets. But Muslims are no more guilty of oppressing others than anyone else is. Certainly not more so than Christians.
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