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Comments by "" (@charliemoore2551) on "Most people are left-wing" video.
@simonjohn9525 Agreed - but more than that. The three-party system only exists because broad coalitions are needed to get through the FPTP system. Both Labour and Conservatives would break down into their various factions. This would result in representation which would more fairly reflect the views of the population and with it would come fluid coalitions and alliances. The downside, of course, is that far-right parties like Reform and worse would also get some representation. But as such parties already exert a dangerous right-wing drag on the Tories in FPTP, that would probably be the lesser evil.
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Voting records for parties are not a good indicator - especially in a FPTP system where people often vote tactically or (sadly) consider their vote to be a waste of time in safe seats. It's far more instructive to look at attitudes to specific issues such as public ownership of strategic industries and utilities such as rail and water or to public services like the NHS. When you do that, you find that the proportion with "left" leaning views is far higher than 57%.
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The Labour Right would never do that. Under FPTP, people are fearful of voting for left-leaning parties because of the danger of splitting the vote and letting in the Tories. PR would result in the emergence of alternative left groups, such as the Greens and The Workers Party and would squeeze out the so-called "moderates" whom, you might remember, have already been tested and found lacking with the SDP and Change UK debacles. The Labour Right would rather be in opposition to a Tory government than in a genuine coalition government with the Left.
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I think that a combination of STV and mult-member constituencies works fairly well. Party-list systems tend to give too much power to party leaderships. In Scotland, we use the D'hondt system, a compromise in which MSPs are directly elected and then a top system (from a list) is used to ensure that each party gets represented according to its share of the vote in that region. This was originally concocted because it was assumed that Labour would otherwise have a permanent majority under FPTP and the idea was that it would force the use of coalition. For local elections, we have STV but without the multi-member aspect. No system is perfect but, apart from ATV, all are better than FPTP.
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@simonjohn9525 I've just re-checked. You're right. AV is the one that favours third parties but in practice can actually result in a less proportional outcome than FPTP. That's why the Lib Dems liked it. I'd still favour it over most other systems because it gives minority views a voice they would not otherwise get. My second choice would be D'hondt.
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@simonjohn9525 Indeed. We would all have to accept the fact that views we disapprove of would be represented. The point is to prevent an extremist plurality from capturing the whole government and imposing its will on the majority - as Thatcher, Blair and Johnson did.
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