General statistics
List of Youtube channels
Youtube commenter search
Distinguished comments
About
Mar
U.S. Army War College
comments
Comments by "Mar" (@swunt10) on "Why Hitler Lost the War: German Strategic Mistakes in WWII" video.
wars can be won against bigger countries. nobody said anything about wars of attrition. that's something you made up. at the time nobody had any interest in a war of attrition. everyone was working to avoid that and they nearly succeeded. as he explains at great length. if the japanese had attacked in the east, moscow had fallen and germany would have easily won on the eastern front, then not even the US and UK could have successfully invaded europe even if they had all the time in the world. that would have been impossible if the wehrmacht could concentrate entirely on defending the coast in western europe. also at 25:10 he said germany produced 40.000 warplanes and the UK 28.000 so I don't know where you get the idea from that the UK produce more planes than germany but I might be wrong here. other mistakes you made include the idea that neville chamberlain was wrong. well he wasn't. the idea that formed europe after the 1ww was called ethnic self determination. sudeten germany joining germany was exactly that, so the UK had no reason to protest and they didn't. maybe we should start the 3rd wolrd war right now since russia annexed the crimea?? thank god you are a nobody, if you had something to say it would be worse than what happened when the nazis where in power. at least the nazis where prepared to attack russia. we are clearly not ready at the moment and thanks to nuclear bombs probably never will. the next point is, attacking civilian german cities as a threat if germany stopped to honor the versailles treaty, it's not only ludicrous and a crime against humanity it would also make the UK the aggressor and the reason for ww2. the next obvious mistake you made is to confuse the rheinland with the ruhr area. the rheinland has almost no industry worth mentioning. besides that france invaded and annexed the ruhr area in the 1920's which caused the german hyperinflation and thereby paved the way for the nazis in the first place. it was also a war of aggression and against international law but since it was france and not germany who did it nobody talks about it. take those points and think about them and don't just reply with any stupid comment of your own. if you are not advice resistant and if you know a bit about history and if you can think logically, then I'm sure you will learn something. no need to get defensive. there is nothing wrong with being wrong as long as one learns from mistakes.
3
germany won against russia in WW1, so much so that russia dissolved itselfe and didn't exist as a sovereign state for over70 years. they could have done the same to the soviet union. the reason why they lost is explained in this video plus of course the massive help the soviets got from their allies the UK and US without which they wouldn't have lasted. also japan was the reason moscow didn't fall. germany had the worst allies of all time. from italy and their fuck ups which delayed operation barbarossa to japan and their promis to stalin to not attack from the east. it's almost laughable how bad germanys allies were. they helped the allies more than their own axis.
3
germany won against russia in the 1 WW.
1
Delta40 which is what a win looks like.
1
Delta40 so germany didn't lost the first world war because nobody got close to berlin and because of the german revolution they initially did end their hostilities with the entente on favorable terms. (armistice, the versailles treaty came much later)??? I don't think so.
1
Delta40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiel_mutiny lead to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319 a republic was announced on 9th of november and the republic singed the armistice 2 days later which ended the first world war on 11th of november. germany won against russia in the exact same way that the entente won against germany in 1918. the parallels are exact and there is no room for "opinions" because the facts are the same for everyone. germany didn't occupy moscow just like the entente didn't occupy berlin. russia singed an armistice after a revolution that replaced the old monarchy with a new revolutionary government, just like germany signed an armistice after a revolution that replaced the old monarchy with a new revolutionary government. just because you don't know history doesn't mean it didn't happen.
1
Delta40 no not really. there is no misunderstanding. you think germany didn't 'win' against russia because german troops didn't occupy moscow and because the russian revolution changed the politics in russia. but the exact same is true for germany as well but everyone agrees that the western allies 'won' against germany even though berlin was not occupied and the revolutionaries singed the armistice. so your arguments are not convincing. and I didn't say weimar republic because the weimar republic came into existence in 1919 and not 1918.
1
Delta40 you are completely mixing up 1918 and 1919. germany only agreed to an armistice but one year later the allies humiliated germany with the versailles treaty. germany on the other hand agreed to an armistice with russia and later imposed only mild sanctions on russia. so there is no difference except that germany didn't act like a bitch and changed it's mind. germany won against russia in the exact same way as the allies won against germany. If you like it or not. you can't point out any difference because there is non. just because you don't like it or you are to stupid to get it doesn't change the facts. also you mixed up 1918 and 1919 against. you clearly accused me for saying republic instead of weimar republic but that's your mistake since there is a difference between the revolution and the declaration of the republic and the weimar republic which came one year later. your quote: "Germany became known as the Weimar Republic. If you designated and presented such things with a bit more clarity perhaps we wouldn't still be talking." you haven't got anything right the entire time, you lack common knowledge (who doesn't know about the revolution?) and you are advice resistant when I tell you something (you don't even have to believe me, just look it up). stupid people who are wrong the entire time but are still smug and insist on teaching others really bother me. instead of writing me senseless comments back, trying to get the last word why don't you try not to make it worse for you. isn't it humiliating at some point?
1
Delta40 you still can't name one difference between russia and germany. an armistice is an armistice and later they made a treaty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Brest-Litovsk the exact same in both cases. it's exactly the same. what is going on in your head? what is it? I can't get how you think you have a point. there is literally no difference. and I said republic because in 1918 when the armistice was signed it was not the weimar republic. you really can't be that stupid. my best guess is that you just want to have the last word.
1
Delta40 you are wrong again in everything you said and I knew you just wanted to have the last word. and boy was that another one of your surprisingly thoughtless comments. the versailles treaty nor the armistice was not singed by the german empire just like the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was not singed by the russian empire. oh and there never was a communist government in germany, you got that wrong too but since you haven't got anything right it's not surprising. so you talked nonsense again. there is no difference even in that department. you don't have a point and grasping a straws like telling me there is a difference in the empires and military?? so what the hell does that have to do with anything?? (oh please don't try to answer that question it's rhetorical and I don't need any more of your illogic nonsense) what the hell is going on in your head? you seriously can't be that thick. who the hell cares about troops outnumbering other troops. that's what the war was for. is that the only difference you can find? because it's not only not relevant in any conceivable way you are seriously getting on my nerves. maybe I'm just not used to talk to advice resistant idiots. I'm just not trained to work with "spacial needs" kids. here I write it down for you one more time. war>starting to lose the war>social unrest>revolutionary change in government>armistice and>peace treaty signed by new governments. god I hope you are not that stupid in real live. I really hope you are not. that would be tragic.
1
Delta40 points? you think you had points? plural? you couldn't name one if your life depended on it.
1
GeneralMacArthur1945 quote from his comment "Treaty of Versailles was with Germany, not the communist revolutionaries who were put down before the treaty was signed." so he clearly thought that the communist were in power and then put down. that's because he knows nothing about history and just assumed that, after I had to repeatedly tell him that there was a difference between the 1918 republic and the weimar republic. none of them where communist, obviously. that is also not a difference concerning if germany won against russia or not. he just tried a straw mans argument and even failed at that. so no, it's not a difference because it is not part of anything we talked about. next thing is you tell me that in russia there is a street named differently than a street in germany and that is "one of the damned differences now isn't it?" or that they have different politicians. how stupid are you people? germany won against russia just like, and I mean exactly like, the allies won against germany. war>starting to lose war>armistice>peace treaty. it doesn't get any simpler than that. so "get with it buddy". oh and that passive aggressive "sir" makes you look like a twat. stupid idiots unite. I do't care anymore. it's jus tragic. common sense is not so common anymore. the world is full with advice resistant trolls like yourself and your buddy or should I say second account?
1
Delta40 "bided thee good day" again passive aggressive and sophomoric. the "likes" of me argue with facts, logic and information. must be really hard for "the likes of you" to deal with that.
1
GeneralMacArthur1945 oh so we are back to the different street names. well yes that is a huge difference. so clearly germany didn't win against russia because... the revolutionary new government that signed the armistice and the peace treaty was not exactly the same in germany as it was in russia. what a surprise. I also think (but I'm not sure) that the treaty was signed at a different day and perhaps even in a different city. also the weather was different. so clearly the parallels are not exact and I'm just silly. I shouldn't use the word exactly. but then nobody should ever use the word exactly if you are going to be anal about it without understanding how language works and what context means. according to you it was not "exactly" the same because the guys who signed the treaty had different names and different uniforms. you clearly won that argument.^^ and what other differences do you mean? please name one. just one, don't be cryptic. but none of those that I already answered because they where lies or wrong. I'm really good at memorizing and I don't like to repeat myself. what is not to understand about the simple facts so that people start to grasp at straws like their lives depended on made up lies and anal nonsense? both russia and germany had a war on their western front. the cost of war was so high that social unrests resulted from it. in germany the navy (november revolution) and in russia the anti-monarchists (february revolution), then both began to lose the war, the new revolutionary (not long lasting) governments took over (in germany the republicans and in russia the social liberals together with the soviets) and the monarchy was gone, so the new revolutionary governments signed an armistice in both cases. later both governments were replaced. in germany by the weimar republic and in russia by the bolsheviks. they then signed the peace treaty which forced them to pay reparations, give up land and other sovereignty. that is what "exact" means. it is precisely the same. which is extraordinary. even if it would not have been so identical it would still not mean that germany didn't won against russia. but it makes my argumentation so much easier.^^ any objections?
1
Delta40 well yes and? do you think I'm going to write an essay for you? that would be lost on you. also you didn't name differences. that's the point. none of what you said is even remotely relevant no matter what you think. come on. try to make your case. why did germany not win against russia? that's the topic of the conversation between me and some idiot. because they didn't use tanks? because the peace treaty between germany and russia was signed by quote:"different people" than the peace treaty between the allies and germany? are you stupid or what is going on? you can't be that removed from reality that you don't see what's wrong with you. just come back to this chat in 5 years. the shame will make you cringe. not only did I make my case as clear as it gets and there isn't even room to argue otherwise (thankfully none of you did try that) but also the events are exact. I can't repeat often enough the simple chronology of the event. at first the other guy tried to fight that until I proved (thought him history for beginners) to him that the chronology of the events are perfectly identical. it doesn't get much easier than that. nobody cares that they didn't use tanks. what the hell does that have to do with anything??? PS they used gas in the east. both germany and russia. I'm not sure if it's a lie or if you didn't know that, but since you two know almost nothing before I point it out to you I will let it slip.
1
Delta40 oh you've run out of arguments. "everything else", can't name one thing.^^ right. apart from not knowing things, libel and making stuff up, what else are you good at? everything I've said is 100% correct. it's a shame that you have to be a grammar nazis to disguise your lack of knowledge, isn't it? "oh look you spelled something wrong". really clever. if we are going to be grammar nazis can I just point out that in german nouns always begin with a capital letter. every child knows that. btw can you point out some of my grammatical errors please? I really want to improve my english.^^ in england it's generally recognised and accepted that american english is superior to english english.^^ mein Freund.
1
germany won against russia in ww1. russia didn't won a war all by itself for many centuries. they lost the russian japanese war, they lost in the poland war between the world wars, they lost against finland. they only won against germany in ww2 because of massive imports of war material from there allies and it's no secrete that the soviet union would have lost the war without that help. not mentioning that france the UK and the USA was on their side.
1
***** hey russian troll why don't you take your shitty english and your illogical comment fuck off?
1