Comments by "Fredinno" (@innosam123) on "Who Will Win America's Next Civil War?" video.

Note that purging the military with left-wingers (including the lower ranks) means that they most likely just swell the ranks of paramilitaries and mercenary groups, which we have been seeing right now. There are also far more veterans than there are actual active soldiers. Also, a civil war starting almost certainly involves shooting at your own countryman. I can’t help but be reminded of Robert E Lee’s reluctance to join the Confederacy, but ultimately doing so for his state over his country, regardless of the consequences over slavery. Loyalty can mean a lot of things, but in particular, who you are loyal to.
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I would also point out that the Empire was basically just an ad-hoc dynastic military dictatorship, not a true Monarchy.
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Yeah. Rarely when people talk about ‘College Educated Elite’ do they talk about STEM professionals. Both the Right and Left respect them, and rarely are they activists for some social cause trying to advance their social class (unless it’s better conditions.) Even computer science is far closer to the ‘real world’ of compromise, hard work, problem-solving, and teamwork compared to the Social Sciences and Liberal Arts.
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I would like to note that most Mercenaries are actually just Veterans who decide to keep fighting in Wars because they want to (or because they fail to integrate back into Civilian life.) So this makes the situation for the Left even worse. They’re the same pool of people who would likely join the Right to begin with. It’s like hiring Goths to fight the Goths.
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@nomanor7987 Tell that to the millions in Chinese concentration camps. Or the North Koreans who were propped up by the Chinese government. Or the 6 million Ukrainian refugees.
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Remember Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. People tend to forget in modern society that if you lack food and water, everything else collapses pretty quickly. People leave the cities in search of food and water. Factories stop operating without worker or water to run Machinery. Order collapses. Wealth evaporates.
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Does it matter when you control the water supply into the city? Or the food supply? And remember: most industry is in the suburbs. NOT the urban cores. The suburbs are mostly swing districts or weakly Democrat. Also, the Spanish Civil War went the same way. The Fascists only controlled the more rural areas with little industry but produced most of the food. Turns out factories don’t operate without food. Food became the biggest propaganda tool for the Fascist side
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@gremlinking5640 It’s also important to note that it wasn’t just the Soviets- there were also volunteers across the socialist community across the West to the Republicans (most famously George Orwell.) The Republicans were so disorganized and broken that the amount of foreign support simply didn’t matter. Republican solider would ride on top of tanks into entrenched nationalist lines and get slaughtered.
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However, a quick, and decisive civil war would also likely crush one side or the other.
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How much influence do the Never-Trumpers have in the party? Seriously. Most of the people who voted for impeachment against Trump are gone (minus Mitt Romney). There IS no more internal crisis/civil war in the GOP. All of them have been kicked out by the party already.
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@alehaim How well has that midterm prediction going? :/ RCP has the GOP winning both chambers with a healthy lead. Also, Trump got within the margin of error of 2016. Definitely the election denial didn't help him much in terms of votes, but considering 2020 was everyone who hated Trump vs those who didn't, he did surprisingly decent.
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@kauswekazilimani3736 To what? Yeah, you can trade, but they only trade if you have something to trade with . Considering you're going to be trading for everything while the economy is in freefall due to the war, things are probably not going to go great. Also, water usually isn't traded overseas. Water is the reason, for example, that the battle of Singapore ended so quickly. The British gave up as soon as the water supply was cut off.
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Does the Right Wing want to create a racial hierarchy? No? Then it’s not Apartheid. Basically no one on the right (aside from the very fringe neo-Nazi and alt-right) want to get rid of minorities or segregate society.
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Yes, the Right does have internal conflicts. The issue is that socialist/leftist movements are much worse at this. The only time that internal conservative divisions actually changed things in recent years was when Trump sabotaged the 2020 Georgia Senate Race. The Democrats can’t get any legislation, on the other hand through, despite controlling all branches of government.
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@michaelweiske702 Hey, remember when Virigina elected a Republican to Governor and New Jersey went within 3 points in 2021? And how both were actually important elections rather than a temporary house appointment? And the reason is that the vote was split. Also, probably Sarah Palin.
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@michaelweiske702 Well, from what I can tell, it's more like 'never-Palins'. Sarah Palin isn't popular in Alaska and has been out of politics for over a decade. Even then, she got the greater % of the vote and would have won without ranked-choice voting, indicating that the populists are probably the dominant faction. The 'never-Trumpers' exist, but not enough to provide much incentive for the right to continue to radicalize. Alaska is also moving left federally (not at the governor/state level, however), for many reasons- in part because of (ironically) population decline, partially because the Alaskan right-wing hates their federal election candidates. Being a centrist like Murkowski doesn't work anymore. The 'never-Trump' faction exists, but so does the 'only-Trump- faction.
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@danielkelly8870 You're basically describing a economically left-wing, culturally right-wing system. Like Latin America, but without the corruption and incompetence.
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@Cneq Yeah. Ironically, the fact the US is more multiethnic and multiracial makes a conquest of Mexico or the Caribbean much easier. Especially as Birth rates across most of Central and Latin America are stabilizing at around 2-ish. This means that the 2 main cultural reasons (not wanting to integrate Catholic people of mixed or inferior races, and not wanting to be ethnically dominated by a foreign group) to not taking over the entire North American region dies. South America is more iffy. Geography doesn’t make sense here, as these places are effectively an ocean away from the American mainland. Also, someone like Argentina or Brazil might stop eating rocks and actually become a major power here.
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@nobodyherepal3292 Honestly, by the time Augustus took power, the civil wars so far were so destructive that people were mostly just sick of fighting. Also, the people who were trying to 'preserve' the republic were corrupt enough that the faith in the system was long dead.
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@landgabriel The Carribean isn't that different from the Med in geographical terms.
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Middle-Aged men do not have the psychological energy or drive to swell the ranks of paramilitaries.
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@bobwinters5572 They're not going to be the first ones on the front lines, unless they have lots of experience and skills in fighting. We might see them, but probably more once the front lines settle down (if it's not a quick fight, like in Ukraine.)
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@nomanor7987 Those are called Prisons. And people are in them because they actually did something wrong other than being in a certain ethnic group and the government is suspicious of them.
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@NeonAnimeDreams Atrocities that mostly are being bitched by either powers that do far worse on a regular basis (China, Russia, Iran), or people who are ignorant about foreign policy. It's easy to be pacifist when you're not the one who has to clean up after other peoples' BS.
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@nobodyherepal3292 US Civil War, Spanish Civil War, and Chinese Civil War say otherwise (that one not that quick though, but definitely decisive) The chaos happens because no faction takes full control. Basically, you'd have to assume the Republicans immediately eat their own coalition after winning and cause even more chaos.
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@jacksonburnette207 Are those guys ethnonationalists? That's usually what separates the alt-right from the mainstream right.
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@michaelweiske702 Well, no party in a 2-party system is every 100% politically united. However, the never-Trumpers are now in the minority. The GOP primary polling for 2024 is a good example of this. Both DeSantis and Trump are 'Trumpian' candidates. No one else consistently polls above 10 points. The non-'Trumpians' exist, but are effectively subordinate now, no matter how much David Frum might wish otherwise.
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@nobodyherepal3292 I would note that those civil wars you mentioned had both foreign involvement that increased how bloody the war was (and more importantly) Islamists who don't want stability at all. Syria has also stabilized in a truce, with both sides working together- perhaps because they're scared of Turkish encroachment.
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@nobodyherepal3292 So many racial supremecist groups (other than BLM) have turned out to be so completely inflitrated by the FBI , that I don't find it particularly likely they'd be a serious force.
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