Comments by "FiveLiver" (@FiveLiver) on "Jordan B Peterson"
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Peterson hasn’t really got much of an insight into politics. He uses the tired terms ‘left’ and ‘right’ as if they have definable meanings that everyone acknowledges, and he wants to inhabit some mythical centre between them. 45:50 “The nationalist authoritarian right” he believes is as a thing, when if he understood anything would know that is the left that is authoritarian in nature. He suggests that the ethno-nationalists (whites) are a possible danger without explanation of how or to whom. He dismisses identity politics but doesn’t see that today if a group doesn’t play identity politics they lose. White people need to see themselves as a group now as all other identity politics is specifically an assault on them. He attempts to belittle white identitarians on an individualist level as if individualism is everything: “what the hell does it have to do with you…you Goddam loser?” To be white and NOT caring about racial identity is the mindset of the loser because whites are going to be outnumbered in their own societies, and the future of white race and its cultural and intellectual heritage is in danger. Having made the nonsense statement: “you identify with the group because you don’t have anything of your own to offer, and so it’s pathetic”, he jumps to speaking of Nazi Germany as if that particular leftist movement, at that particular time, exemplifies ethno-nationalism for all times and all circumstances. 1:14:13 he totally dodges the question that individualism is a European (white) characteristic because his philosophy is based on the delusion that all peoples and cultures are equally individualistic, because race is just skin colour. Nonsense Peterson, everything YOU are is a product of your whiteness, not something abstract like your humanity or your egocentric individuality.
Ryan Faulk has a great Peterson analysis here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5oJW0MoYw
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I can see why you are a fan of Peterson; he’s devoted to the idea of individuality as a universal norm, and would that non-whites did too, but it is a fact that it is only whites, as a group, that embrace this concept. Whites are the only group that reject their in-group preference, the only group that calls members of their own group ‘racists’, the only group that institute state multiculturalism and replacement levels out-group immigration into their homelands. So whites are the least racist in their attitudes, while, paradoxically, the race card can be relentlessly played against them while they cannot play it themselves.
Peterson is pushing against an open door with most whites as they don’t have any sense of themselves in terms of group identity politics. Conversely his individualism ideas will fall on deaf ears with blacks, Hispanics, Jews*, Chinese because they gain advantage from acting together, against whites - who are often quite happy to help them. It is wise, as well as natural, for them to identify exclusively with their own group because in the US there is a diversity industry based on the suicidal altruism of the white the host population. Look at Starbucks flagellating themselves because the wasters who asked to leave their business, when they wouldn’t buy anything, were black and not white. [His channel was removed from YouTube but Colin Flaherty had a message for white liberals who want to involve themselves blacks: “you have to understand, they are just not into you”.]
The pinnacles of white achievement are something for all whites to investigate and be proud of regardless of their ‘class’. They are genetically/culturally/historically connected to Shakespeare, Leonardo, Copernicus, Rembrandt and Mozart in a way that an Africa can never be. The necessity for black role models is advocated for young blacks in order to excel themselves - but not whites? That’s a double standard.
* of course, they have it both ways; they are white (and individualistic) when it suits them, and an ethnic group when it suits them.
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