Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "The 6 Most Extreme Societies Ever(We’re One)." video.

  1. Harm = societies strong on authority, purity and loyality
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  2. About harm there is a confusion between two antagonist drives: 1) For well being and no physical harm based on empathy , it was the trend after WWI and the horrors of nazism. 2) no offense for the ego, based on the ... ego, then the antagonist of empathy. This is the trend of the post modern movements, or by religious peoples. And then it is about not going against the ego of peoples from minorities. You can see the antagonism when no harm for ego leads to hate against the person "harming" the ego of some minority ,and then allowing harm to th person , not just by words....
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  3. mohamed and its followers were moderate : repressing tribes for leaving Islam after the death of mohamed, is a moderate attitude. Allowing slavery of women held captive after battles is a moderate attitude destroying polytheist religions, is a moderate attitude etc... Yes they were moderates for an Orwellian propaganda.
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  4.  Union Jack  This is why democracies do not enforce morality. And democracies are less violents than authoritarians regimes. Just by saying that altruism does not make society you prove that you are wrong because society is based on social link, and altruism is social link, You are making a strawman attack by confusing with egoism. Societies based on a culture based on individualism and altruism do not need enforced authoritarian force, because peoples are less prone to violence and crime, The best proof are western europeans countries who are very individualist and have the lower level of enforced order with lower crime rate, and lower violence against women. Then reality debunks your claims.
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  5. you can't because some values are antagonists : you favor one value you destroy the other. Authority, loyalty, and purity are antagonist to freedom and harm. Then you can't maximize all the values. You can only spread each values in some part of the society where they don't enter in conflict too much.
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  6.  Bolshevik Breaker  You are wrong because you spread the simplistic speech of peoples with limited knowledge about the subject. This is just beliefs. You are confusing anarchy with anomy. Anarchy is related to freedom, anomy is related to chaos . Then come back when you can do the difference.
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  7.  Bolshevik Breaker  Well thank you for your show of ignorance. Anarchy and anomy are differents concept, this is why we have two differents words. With Anarchy there are collective decisions, while anomy is just egoists peoples fighting each others. Not the same concepts. Anarchy is about real individualism and lay on social bind. Anomy is about egoism and lack of social bind.
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  8.  Union Jack  Thank you showing that you are a great ignorant who confuse individualism with egoism. You are the jocke.
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  9.  Union Jack  You say nothing about the distinction between individualism and anomy. You try to send the subject elsewhere. You don'(t speak about individualism, you speak about society where there are peoples who are not individualist but driven by their ego , and then not about individualism. Real Individualist society need a lower level of order for reducing chaos. What drives to chaos is not individualism, but focus on self and conflict(which are related in term of psychological drive) .
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  10.  Union Jack  Another point showing how you are wrong your model is in fact Russia or China who are authoritarians countries by culture. Their distopian aspects are linked to authoritarianim. The distopian individualism is the egoist Dreams a non society without any social bind with everyone acting as egoist and each against others. But the level of violence and imorality comes from particularism. The more the society is particularist, the more the society is violent. You are just throwing bad propaganda disconnected from a real analysis.
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  11.  Bolshevik Breaker  If we go on this way then it is simple : purity and loyalty are authoritarians values. They are not independant values. They all drive to authoritarians and violent society.
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  12.  Bolshevik Breaker  Well nothing in your biased message answer to my message. It is just simples beliefs based on superficial view. Freedom to its extreme does not leads to violence because freedom and harm are related, they have a strong psychological drive in common. While purity, authority and loyalty are based on the same set of minds that gives to the person a drive external and superior to the individuals. This is the principle of heteronomy. And freedom is antagonist to this principle.
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  13.  Union Jack  straw man attack, you don't read what i say. You don't repeat what i say. True individualism exists in the mind of many peoples who don't need a stick or a gun on the head to behave with ethic. Human beings who are above their ego. Thisi why in western Europe there is less criminality while the police and the justice are less aggressives than elsewhere. Yes you are disconnected from reality, you have a narrow view of how the humans minds can be differents, and some do not fit inside your narrow view. Not every body has the same set of minds than you.
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  14.  Union Jack  The Western Europeans countries are the less authoritarians countries, they have the higher index of freedom. Most peoples do not need police to stay honest and not becoming a criminal. Militaries are for external threats .... not for enforcing internal order. There are two global way o management of ethic/morality : the lowest level , the external regulator (police and law) , the person can't regulate himself. The internal regulation, or auto-regulation, and this is the case with true individualist who care for themselves and for others individuals. True individualism involves empathy and horizontal social bind, then allows auto regulation of our own behavior. Then you don't understand what is true individualism, you lost your time by speaking about something you don't understand.
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  15.  Union Jack  Individualism occurs in western Europe at least.
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  16. ​ Union Jack  it was about individualism.... Anarchism is an utopy in the actual words outside small communities, would need education ( in the positive sense ) of everyone for working in large scale society. Yes you don't understand what you comment. The proof is that you can't see by yourself that western Europe is about individualism. Your comment about about individualism are stupids and retarded. You are saying that individualism leads to dystopian authoritarian nightmare, this is very very stupid. Only authoritarians ideologies leads to authoritarians dystopias. fascism, nazism, stalinism, maoism, north korea, etc.. were authoritarians ideologies with authoritarians leaders, nothing to do with individualism.
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