Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "Vox"
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Dr.Rythm
Désolé mais l’Angleterre avec son communautarisme et ses communautés qui vivent séparés, ce n'est pas vraiment le modèle d'ouverture. Il n'y a rien de plus fermé que le Londonistan où je ne doute pas que les intégristes arrivent à mettre des salles de prière de partout, pour y aller prier entre deux manifestation pour prôner la mort pour les infidèles ( à côté le militant FN moyen c'est un boyscout ).
Oui le France est un pays ouvert, il ne repose pas sur le communautarisme, il y a plus de relations inter groupe que dans la plupart des autres pays.
Des salles de prières dans des bars communautaires ce n'est pas un modèle d'ouverture mais bien de fermeture identitaire.
Quand aux africains, bah vu que normalement il n'y pas de communautarisme, et qu les africains constituent environ 5% de la population, les pubs africaines ce n'est pas intéressant à afficher sur les bus qui vont forcément passer dans des quartiers où il n'y pas ou peu d'africains. D'autre part une partie des noirs sont des antillais ou de Guyane, et donc sans relation direct avec l'Afrique ( la traite des noirs c'est le début du 18ème siècle, il y a plus de 200 ans ), et n'aiment pas être assimilés à ceux ci.
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JojoFR
Tu confonds le pourcentage des électeurs exprimés et le pourcentage de Français. Que nombre d'électeurs FN soient motivés par la crise, la peur, l'incertitude, etc... ce n'est pas insulter c'est juste un constat fait par des études sur le sujet. Le fait est que le moteur émotionnel principal du FN c'est la peur, comme tout mouvement vraiment de droite ( quand sarkozy a fait campagne sur l'insécurité en 2007, il a joué la carte de la peur ).
Pour l’identité de la France il faudrait se réveillé, ce qui fait l’identité de la France par rapport aux autres pays se retrouve dans la culture Républicaine Française, comme la laïcité, l'intégration, etc... Et les joueurs sélectionnés par Deschamps en sont de bons représentants, ils se sentent Français au delà de toute différence.
Oui c'est ça l'identité de la France, l'unité des Français au delà des différences régionale, raciales, religieuses, etc....
Quand on est français, l'origine des personnes c'est juste pour faire conversation. Ce sont les allemands qui jugent gens selon leur origine avec le droit du sang.
En fait tu ne défend pas l'identité Française, mais l'identité Allemande importé par des seigneurs de guerre germaniques au début du moyen âge.
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@allowableman2
hereditary power is not left wing, but 100% right wing.
The Kim-jong's family as a pure right wing ideology.
You remove all the false political labels they get, and look only reality of ideology : relations of power, social relations, etc.... and you can't make a distinction with many right wing systems.
Just for the knowledge the left right antagonism comes from the French Revolution.
The right wing was monarchic, authoritarian, slaver, etc... for the power of one of a few.
The left was anti monarchic for a democratic parliamentary regime, against slavery, for the freedom of the nation from religious institutions and all authoritarians traditions of the old society, for the power of the greater number.
And in all democratic countries , this is the same reference.
And the Kim-jong family of north korea defend more right wing positions than left wing positions on the real left right axe.
And it become worst when it is about work.
Because the positions of the left at work ( the very base of socialism and communism ) are against economic exploitation and oppression of the workers, with abolition of slavery it was already the case with the French revolution.
And the north Korea is a champion of the economic exploitation, oppression of the workers, then it is on the right wing side of the economic axe.
And then if we make the sum of the objective ideological position ( and not playing the stupids by taking only the self proclaimed labels ) , the kim-jong family is right wing.
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Thank you to recall some basic truth that nobody like to recall :
where there is fear there is no freedom : if your act because you fear for your life, health, or for you conjoint or childen, parents, etc... you are not free.
Choosing health care is not like choosing a TV for our house, or buying a car choosing the brand, the look, capacities, performances, options, etc....
It is not a question of choice of freedom.
Then all the blah blah from the right wing about health care is a lie. It deserves only some privates interests, not the freedom of the individuals, at the expense of the health or life of peoples.
Cuba, being poor, with many limitations (thank to the american embargo), get better national statistics in some health problems than the USA. For many numbers USA have the worst numbers among western countries. Numbers for back peoples in the USA are almost the same than some third world countries, because they are poors.
Then this is the proof that health care is not so expensive, if we want.
But it goes against the will of the private interests.
There is a will to maintain poor peoples in bad health and going against what could change that, even if peoples are dying. This is a politic of psychopaths.
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Nektarios Maniatopoulos
i have a better understanding of ideologies than you because i made research on the subject.
You just repeat he same wrong thing.
Authoritarian have as main principle heteronomy.
Heteronomy : the drive of the individual is superior and external to the individual.
The opposite is individualism where individuals are the drive of the society.
Regulating economy for the need of individuals like life, health, well being, is not authoritarian but individualist. If the politic is lead by the state, it changes nothing, it is just a tool, only the purpose counts.
Not regulating private power of capitalist, but defending it , making their interest superior to the individuals workers, this is authoritarian.
Giving autonomy of power to workers, by democratic power over private interest , is individualist.
Out of the economy authoritarians can put religion, or divinity ( called god, yavhe, shiva, zeus, thor , toutatis, enlil etc... ) above the individual will in the society. This is clericalism.
Authoritarians can put the sexual category above the will and life of the individual , and first the women, this is sexism.
Authoritarians can put the racial belonging above the individual will and life, this is racism.
Authoritarians can put the tradition above the individual will and life.
Removing all humanity to people because they are stranger is authoritarian.
Rejecting strangers because they are stranger is authoritarian : the belonging to the nation is superior to the individual.
Refusing to save the life of babies of poor black women, because their mother is a poor black women and does not deserves health care support, is authoritarian.
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This is positions hold among republican and their allies, in Europe this positions are defended by right wing parties and movements. This is the camp of trump, this is ideas that support Trump or his voters.
Well the video explain well why trump is linked to authoritarianism, you don't understand the video, nor the system.
Tu ne comrpends pas le système.
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the authoritarian mind set comes from several independents process :
the first , the main : the backfire of neo-liberalism
The neo liberal society cut social binds , and makes the life more uncertain, more insecure without offering positive issue for peoples who are are not in the top of the wealthy peoples ( many middle class peoples have as only change in the future becoming more poor, falling in the lower class, etc.... ).
And then rise the need for social bind and control of uncertainty. And this is the psychology of real authoritarianism in a society that reject horizontal bind ( equality, solidarity, peaceful relations, etc.... ) , making the vertical bind ( bind to authority, transcendence , identity, etc.... ) the only possible bind.
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