Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "The Benefits of Conservatism | 5 Minute Video" video.
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Endmin1
calling Islamist right wing, is like calling nazis right wing, this is a fact.
But irrational people seeing only identity oppositions can't understand the nature of ideology.
well at a time the catholic church, when it was very conservative, was "convert or die" too.
This is pure right wing policy.
Islamism is religious fundamentalism, this is pure right wing, all about hierarchy, heteronomy, inequality , rigidity of the society, etc....
What define left wing and right wing, is not identity, or origin, but principles, values, logic of ideas, psychological drive and cognitive process, etc....
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arthur lecomte
conservatives defend rigid society, they are agaisnt individual freedoms, with sexism, racism, economic discrimination by money, religion influence on society. Conservatism is an authoritarian ideology, defending tradition, religious dogmas is authoritarian.
Defending the freedom of women , racial minorities from stereotyped social categories,is defending freedom. Defending rights and protection of workers agaisnt the authority and power of the capitalists, is defending freedom. Defeinding freedom from authoritarains religiosity is defending freedom.
The left defend the real freedoms.
Gathering millions is not freedom as sign of personal succes , it is a question of social power.
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For the sciences the main difference bewtween left and right is open mind ( left ) vs closed mind (right).
It is not a problem of risk, the risk takers are on another line of antagonism independant from left vs right, this is egoism/selfcentred vs social link. On the first side the risk taker, there are libertarians and liberals in the european term, and they classify their antagonist as left.
Then left are not liberals , even if they share some views, but on the other hand real liberals share some views with conservatives ( they don't like solidarity for exemple).
There are many confusion, in the end the video look like a big strawman.
But all of that is wrong.
Just look at the countries that had left governement, with politics that have transformed the country : like nordics nations with lower economic inequalities, higher Human Developpement Index ( HDI ), more individiuals freedoms than in conservatives nations, less violence , etc...
Conservatives politics means : great inequalities, leading to more violence, lower HDI, less social protection, more misery, less indivdual freedom.
What you say about the economic is false, if there is no politic of solidarity for sharing wealth, the lower class can be taken away from the economic growth. In the 19th century, conservatives capitalists were very richs while their workers were kept in the state of misery. It was socailist movement and the more humanist liberal that made more human politics for giving rights and freedoms to the workers.
If conservatives does not fear a socailist , communist or anything assimilated to this, revolution, revolt, they don't do anything for the middle and lower class.
Yes conservative fear novelty, that is why they keep the system like it is, it defends the inequalities,the power of the elits, etc....
They odn't want a good society, they want a society they already know. In fact their happiness is at the cost of the social minorities well being and freedoms.
It favor religious beliefs over scientific knowledge, because it feeds their rigid mind. Scientific knowledge brings a part of uncertainity that conservatives can't stand.
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+ s c
There is a confusion between logic of ideas, and ideas of peoples.
The positions about the variety of issues from liberals and conservatives label are not arbitrary, because each camp is related to a logic of ideas.
And each logic of ideas, antagonists logic of ideas, leads to have a specific position about a specific issue, becasue they are related to psychological drives.
In addition there are four logic of ideas, the other two can share positions from both side, or have a specific point of view about an issue.
But real persons can be driven by different motivations , on different issues, becasue the psychology of people can be complex. This is why people can be not 100% in line with the theoric position of their camp.
For example some politic positions are related to rigidity of mind, but net everybody is 100% rigid mind, in fact it must be rare to be 100% rigid mind and not pretty, then some people can be driven by their rigidity on some issues, but be more opened, using more their intelligence on some other issue.
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@junkim5853
Stop to be irrational and ignorant.
Your introduction is a pure joke when you know the history of the Nazi party, when you know and UNDERSTAND the ideology.
"Nazis are not a right wing faction they sought to take heavy control on social provisions."
Pure ignorance of Nazism, and left versus right antagonism.
Then it can't be an argument.
Left versus right is about concentration of power, about equality of power ( real left wing, and democracy) versus hierarchic power (right wing). And nazism is all about hierarchic power! Nazism is against equality.
Claiming and being is not the same thing. I guess that many criminal claim to be honest or innocent.
Nazim is not socialism , but nationalism, and antagonist to socialism . The nazi hate socialism and communism. Nazi persecuted and killed socialists.
Nazis were on the right wing side of the German assembly!!!!!
All what you say is just plain wrong there is nothing progressive in nazism, it is anti progressive, anti modernist, it belongs in the reactionary family.
Left give right and freedom to workers, nazism removed all right and power inside the enterprise.....
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black smith
look like you fear the truth.
The non sense is saying that conservatives defend freedom while they are authoritarians.
Conserative don't defend (social) equality because their polic has for main focus the preservation of the social inequalities. What conserve the conservatives ? the hierachy of social inequalities, the social oeder with its inequalities. They make even thing going worst by raising economic inequality, reducing help to people in need, etc...
Conservatives favor higher rate death among youg children among the poors with their inequality's politic agaisnt the poor. Cuba get a better result than the USA while their are poorer.
You are confusion gay with transexual, thisis not the same thing, gay are about sexual attractivity, transexual are about internal feeling about sexual identity.
take a man
if he is heterosexual he says : "i am a man and i love women"
if he is gay he says : "i am a man and i love men"
if he his transexual he could say : "i am identified as man with a body of a man but i feel deeply i am a woman and i want my body fit with my mind" It is another dimension, a medical dimension.
This is nice many thing you say about you general view, but this is not the standard conservative mind, where labels are more important than the person. Women, blacks, poors, migrants, etc... are not viewed as person but before all as member of a social category, and the social order require that memeber of the categories stay at the place given to this category by the social order.
This is why left is born : for making people being free from this categories.
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There are four ideologic poles, antagonists two by two; the left and right classic ideologic opposition follows one of the two antagonisms, one of the other poles fits with anlo saxon liberalism, libertarianism, ancap, etc.... the last pole is called by specialist communautary. Stalinism, maoism , etc... are ditactorships communautary with some hierarchic level(not the true communautary), quakers, amishs etc... are better models for real communautary. The fundamental split between the "liberal" pole and communautary is the question of social bind. Communautary is all about social bond, while liberal pole is for reduce all social bind, and favor egoist mind (like stimer).
There is a liberal left and a liberal right, but in the USA the word liberal fall for more progressive side of the liberals, while in europe the word liberal is more in line with classic liberal, anglo-saxon liberalism, the egist drift of our societies etc...
Liberal left share the focus on social personnal freedoms with the left, some interest for solidarity, healthcare, etc, but less than the left, and are for less regulation of private economic power but against savage capitalism.
The real democratic trend comes from the left pole, in France it was the left wing of the revolution that made the system more democratic than the monarchy where only the richs men could vote and being elected,with universal suffrage , and allowing vote for blacks (free and ex slaves).
Then the more democratic philosophy set democratic power in all sides of the society, in politic with a democratic assembly elected by everyone, and economic democratic power in the enterprise. The philosophers and thinker that were holding this type of ideology got a specific name : socialists.
The more radical being the socialists anarchists. And then their are the core of the left. Progressists are more moderates and don't expect a strong revolution, but instead reforms of the society, but the global purpose, the ideal , is the same than socialists.
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