Comments by "jean-louis pech" (@jean-louispech4921) on "Upper Echelon"
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@metroidman3893
well you are 100% wrong about Marx.
Marx had very accurate view about capitalism based on the knowledge he had at his time.
Dictator do not read Marx, because Marx promotes a political system based on collective power without personal power, the nightmare of all dictators.
The philosophy of Mar xis individualist and dictators are authoritarians.
The philosophy of Marx is about equality, and dictator are for hierarchy.
Marx's philosophy is antagonist to dictatorial ideologies.
Thiis why all dictators have persecuted all real Marxists including stalin .
Then your claim is meaningless.
The philosophy of Marx is a little more complex than what you think.
Marx speak about only the collectivization of ECONOMIC private property, related to power and oppression , slavery being the perfect example of private property and its relation to power and oppression.
Power based on private economic property is the enemy of socialism, because it is source of oppression of workers.
Marx is on the other hand for personal property : your won property for your personal need like having a roof , protection from cold, sleeping, etc... or in other words a personal house, used for living.
Propagandas gives simplistic vision about Marx thinking.
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@n0wheregrrl
lol you are wrong
living wage = left wing politic , this was one of the drive of socialism at his birth.... while the right wing at the power of this time was keeping workers in misery.
free universal healthcare = left wing politic in USA and in Europe.
USA do not have free universal healthcare, because there was no real left wing government ....
This is the politics defended by the left wing agaisnt the right wing.
Sanders follows a moderate Democratic Socialism, or social democracy , then he is left wing, not centrist.
You are confusing reformist/moderate left wing like sanders with centrist.
It differs with real socialism socialism not by the global purpose (the backbone of all ideological camp ) by by the means ( which is the major point of conflict between real left wing )
If we look at the general positions :
""an economy that works for all, not just the very wealthy,"" this is a left wing point of view, not a centrist point of view.
"one person one vote " , it is a left wing point of view, it comes from the French Revolution of 1792 ( well except for women at this time ), while for the classic liberalism ( French in 1789 , Americans and Britain ) it was one bank account = one vote, and for the far right = no vote.
"democratic participation in government and the workplace" this is the real left wing point of view about power.
Most of his points of view in his career are on the left side . But he is not a radical.
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