Comments by "Guinness" (@GuinessOriginal) on "Noisey"
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Sideshow kinda depends really, you'd have to ask. when I was growing up with Jamaicans kids they used black, coloured, half caste etc like it was nothing and so I learnt to use the same words and no one would bat an eyelid. years later, I discovered people I didn't know that well might take offence, especially younger ones, who perhaps have been influenced by American culture and this PC, so called SWJ culture that seems to tell people what to be offended by haig the time. Personally I think it's all about context and intent. Some people are looking to be offended perhaps. She was saying it about her own kids, was she being racist against them? Were they offended? What Americans forget is that not only did Britain abolish slavery long before the US, runaway black slaves had far more support amongst the white working class over here than they might have done in the states. Not to say racism didn't or doesn't exist but it was never as extreme or society as polarised and segregated like in America. The first black person to cast a vote in the UK was probably Cesar Picton in the 1790s, with voting rights increased in the 1830s and universal male suffrage being granted in 1867. By the 1890s London had two Indian elected members of parliament.
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lenny listen to this little lot then get back to me. Actually listen to them tho.
Lethal Bizzle - Police on my Back, Pow 2011
Wiley - Can you hear me, Never be your Woman, Wot do you call it
Skepta - Shutdown, That's not me, Inna corner
Skittles - Bumba,TV Marajuana
Trigga - I'm a G, Drama, Who runs tings
Kano - This is England, Garage Skank
Giggs - Look what the cat dragged in, Whippin Excursion, Lock Doh
So solid crew - 21 seconds, Ride wid us
Morefire Crew - Oi
Nasty Crew - Take you out
Roll Deep - I will not lose
Dizzy Rascal - Bonkers, Dance with me, I luv you,
Tynchy Strider - Underground
Ruff Squad - I'm from place, Together, Xtra, Go rapid
Anyone else want to chip in with other tunes feel free
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thehoneyeffect I find it interesting that when I asked why it mattered to you, you won't tell me, you assume I'm white and that, according to you, like all white people I'm inherently racist. You don't consider Danny Martin to be black enough to be considered black. You also call Grime 'black culture', as if it belongs exclusively to black people. The origins of grime are a Cockney Patios version of jungle via dancehall, no? Not 'black' per se. It's not African or Affro-American, its British-Jamican. Those attitudes all seem a bit racist to me tbh, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, that you were unwilling to give me, and assume you're not racist.
So why are you so interested in the ethnic mix of Blackpool?
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thehoneyeffect culturally appropriating? I grew up surrounded by Jamaican kids and families, they were my best friends, I used to go to their houses for tea, all my first girlfriends were Jamaicans. I didn't even know I was speaking patios until I went to secondary school aged 11 and got told I thought I was black, which I found racist as fuck. I thought Ib was just speaking Mancunian the same as all my mates. so you can stick your cultural appropriation up your arse love. in any case, there is a sizable white population in Jamaica who speak patios, so who's racist now?
The problem is, there are very real and scary racists out there and pulling this shit against someone who's vehemently opposed to them and has actually had it out with them toe to toe, is not at all helpful. it makes other people think that racism is overhyped and overblown because this is all amounts to, someone looking for racism where none exists and throwing accusations around for no very good reason at all. this shit takes away support from the cause. Instead of fighting racists, you're fighting me. I bet I've done more to challenge real racists than you ever have
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