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Comments by "Guinness" (@GuinessOriginal) on "Sole survivor of Russian firing squad escaped execution by playing dead - BBC News" video.
@Fire_Gaming64 just like in Ukraine, where Ukrainian troops have been shelling Ukrainian civilian areas with civilians in, and shooting anyone seen talking to it accepting humanitarian aid from Russian troops. In Iraq those other civilian casualties died in a war the USA was solely responsible for and wouldn’t have died if they hadn’t invaded.
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@Fire_Gaming64 big difference between Iraq, 10 000 miles away from the USA, and Ukraine, right on Russia’s borders. The USA knew full well this was the likely outcome if they kept pushing NATO membership on Ukraine, Putin warned of this plenty of times as far back as 2008. It’s all part of the pentagon strategy, read the rand corporation strategy document about it
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When you arm civilians they are no longer civilians unfortunately. Why have they only just found this guy? Dying for the right to join NATO must be one of stupidest decisions ever made
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@antonlopatinsky9154 the USA and U.K. have paved the way and made it ok
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@antonlopatinsky9154 the British empire invented concentration camps in the boer war. If the french hasn’t got involved in America they may well have invented them then
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@antonlopatinsky9154 you must be against helping those in Yemen since you have never bothered to talk about that war or campaign against it in any way
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@antonlopatinsky9154 the people who have most quickly forgotten about the victims of the Holocaust are the ones building 50 foot statues in the ex polish city of Lviv, to one of it’s biggest perpetrators who was responsible for the deaths of at least 35 000 polish civilians in 1941 during the Holocaust. They have gone so far as to ban the film Wolyn that is about it
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@stephanezebouni2508 amnesty international published reports as far back as 2014 on war crimes, human rights abuses, genocide and ethnic cleansing by the Adair battalion, the same ones responsible for burning 46 people to death in Odessa. You can find these online, although they have been made much harder to access lately, I wonder why
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@Fire_Gaming64 you clearly don’t knows very much about this. In 2008 there was a NATO summit in Bucharest in which Putin was an invited guest. At the end of the summit, the USA, against the wishes of Germany and France, announced that Ukraine and Georgia would become NATO members. Putin was outraged and said categorically this was unacceptable, and that if Ukraine joined it would do so without Crimea and the eastern regions. Russian has been warning of dire consequences if Ukraine’s NATO membership is continued to be pushed ever since. None of this justifies the invasion but neither does it justify the American strategy to keep pushing it to bait Russia into a war to weaken its and make it ripe for regime change . You can read this in the rand corporation strategy document if you care for the truth. It’s only since Biden became President that Ukraine’s NATO membership was back on the table, because he was given Ukraine by Obama back in 2008, hence why his son is so heavily involved in the corruption there. As soon as Biden was in the Whitehouse in 2021 Zelensky started playing hardball with Russia and mobilising troops on the borders and threatening to take Donbas and Crimea back by force, which he had obviously been given a blank cheque by Biden to do
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@dylanvogler2165 I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you said btw but very few people know or care about what happened in Odessa yet everyone knows and cares about what happened on maidan. Ukraine is a civil war that has been stoked and fed by both sides, in parts the USA who have armed and trained far right fanatics and organised a coup against a democratically elected government despite fresh elections having been agreed. The civil war was acting as a proxy war between Russia and the USA, but this time it was on Russia’s borders. If there was a Russian backed revolution in Mexico that installed an anti Russian government and Russian troops were in Mexico training arming and organising fanatical anti American paramilitaries who were carrying out atrocities against Americans in Mexico the USA would invade with its full military might and no one would care about the civilian casualties
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@Frups12345678 everything you've just said is factually inaccurate, so you're either lying or badly misinformed
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@SwingEzzZZ exactly. This is just Vietnam or Korea all over again, except instead of being on china's border it's on Russia's, in the land they have been invaded from half a dozen times in the last 400 years, all of which had horrific results, most especially the last one which was the world's biggest and by far the most deadly military campaign. People tend to remember things like that and be very afraid
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@Wobbler619 unfortunately the USA has said if there The Hague ever accuses any of its military of war crimes they will invade Belgium. They’re not very good at geography or keeping to international laws. Some of their troops have been convicted of war crimes on the USA but were all pardoned. Are you aware of what happened to Pat Tillman?
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@antonlopatinsky9154 btw that is the nicest whitewash of Azov I’ve ever read, if that’s the propaganda you read then no wonder you believe what you do. Try wider sources and go back a few years
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@SwingEzzZZ because the eastern and southern region protests against the violent armed coup against the government they had democratically elected were violently suppressed by armed far right Nazi militias and the Ukrainian army
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@antonlopatinsky9154 you supported Franco no doubt. And the British didn’t do anything to come to Poland’s aid, something a lot of poles are very bitter about now
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@SuiSSe-Torture-Prisonniers-CH Americans are guests in America so they should behave themselves instead of expanding throughout the world. Poles are guests in England so they shouldn’t speak polish according to your logic
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@dylanvogler2165 did the USA face sections? Was there any repercussions for it? Did its troops go on trail in the countries concerned like Russians in Ukraine or in The Hague? Did they pay in any way?
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@dylanvogler2165 how much sympathy are we told to have for the 100 000 children and 400 000 civilians who have died in Yemen with US and UK being?
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@Frups12345678 you've clearly never been to North Eastern Ukraine let alone lived there. When I lived in Boston I didn't tell people I lived in North East America
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@dylanvogler2165 totally agree with your opinion about similarity to ww1 tension and total war, the propaganda in the media and rhetoric from politicians is exactly like the prelude to the first World War, as is the mindless reaction of the public to go along with it
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@Fire_Gaming64 you think Ukraine are getting a pretty good deal? Dying to join nato has got to be one of the dumbest decisions ever made.
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@footyfan1248 well I hope they think it was all worth it because they are dying at an alarming rate, over 300 a day now, shed their country is getting destroyed. It’s unlikely they’ll ever get it all back, and in order to get peace they’ll probably have to agree to be neutral, something they could have done without the war. If the Russians had troops training anti American Mexicans in Mexico and they had carried out a coup against the Mexican government the USA would not care about the right of the Mexican people to overthrow their corrupt government, they would invade immediately and no one would care act the civilian casualties. Unfortunately when you live next door to a great power you have to keep your head down sometimes, just like Mexico and South America have to
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@OnlyGod33-inri exactly
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Funny that they’ve only just found him
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@don s hmm ok. I don’t believe everything I see in the media. Half of it is made up. The reporting on this war is very similar to the reporting in the First World War, absolutely full of propaganda. They are preparing us for an all out war with Russia and we should be doing everything we can to stop it
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@antonlopatinsky9154 do you still believe in the ghost of Kiev and the heroes of snake island? Ukraine puts out a lot of propaganda, which means we can’t really know of anything we hear in this war is true or not. Civilians get killed in war, especially if you arm civilians, turn urban areas into military encampments, place troops, artillery and armour in and around residential buildings and use civilians as human shields. America calls it collateral damage, which means it’s ok. I imagine the Russians are doing the same.
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@antonlopatinsky9154 why is killing civilians in Ukraine far worse than killing civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and Yemen? Schools and hospitals are being double tab bombed in Yemen, where they wait for the rescuers to attend the first bombing then bomb them again. This is being done with American and British weapons, with their help and blessings. They have bombed the electricity and water supply, something Russia hasn’t done in Ukraine. None of this makes what is happening in Ukraine any less worse, but why are we picking third war to care about when we don’t care about any others? Because of propaganda, the same propaganda that led us into the First World War
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@Frups12345678 what the figures are masking is that the 6000 separatists are Ukrainian civilians ergo have armed themselves against an invader, like the Ukrainian civilians who have armed themselves against Russia. And the 5000 Ukrainians troops are troops that defected to the Donbas, you can watch as BBC video of this from 8 years ago
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@dylanvogler2165 great case of whataboutism to try and justify the war crimes in Odessa with unsubstantiated rumours that have no evidence whatsoever. It’s interesting that while memorials have existed for 8 years on the madain for those that died there, no memorials have been allowed to exist in Odessa. Any that get placed are instantly taken away
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@Wobbler619 did you personally shoot non combatants in Ukraine?
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@dylanvogler2165 yes I’m Russian because they’re well known for their love of stout. And you aren’t showing any prejudice at all against Russians by passing remarks about their national character. You’ve been listening to too much propaganda just like in World War One. Where’s this evidence you promised?
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@stephanezebouni2508 you’re a member of AI and you are advocating a Ukrainian invasion of Russia? Of course you are
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@antonlopatinsky9154 yes Goebbels is smiling, not just at the Russian propaganda but more at the self styled Ukrainian SS propaganda, modelled as they are on his own personal Nazi divisions. If you think only one side here is pumping out propaganda then you have been as duped as the world was in the months and years leading up the World War One, and if you’re typical then we’re probably heading for the same result
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@Me-yq1fl aha, a hypocrite. Dying for the right to join NATO has to be one of the stupidest decisions ever made. Especially as when trump gets back in it will all be for naught
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@Frups12345678 you were there, of course you were. You were everywhere all at once and know everything.
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@dylanvogler2165 couldn’t agree with you more. If you got history, you will be aware of the hysterical propaganda that was rife in the run up to the July crisis in 1914 and during the war that followed. The atmosphere and propaganda today feels very, very similar
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@dylanvogler2165 the Russian trope sounds like a stereotype to me. Dutch people only come across as rude if you don’t understand the culture, I suspect the same is with Russians. I’d need to hear it from a good few Russians before I’d consider it a national character flaw. Maybe it’s a hangover from communism, or maybe it’s a result of the huge financial crisis that was a reality of being forced into market capitalisation without any of the assistance the west have Poland and Estonia and parts of Yugoslavia for example
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@antonlopatinsky9154 where was the outage over the war in Chechnya?
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@dylanvogler2165 I know all about it pal hence why I mention it. This is why this moral outrage over this war is pure propaganda fuelled hypocritical hyperbole, when the war in Yemen for example has been going on for 5 treats and is far, far worse. I don’t believe half of what we’re being told, because when you look into it there are so many inconsistencies and gaps and there is so much they don’t report and what they do report is so biased and such blatant propaganda
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@dylanvogler2165 the dead in Ukraine don't make an excuse for the deafening silence over the dead in yemen either. People who pick and choose which dead to be morally outraged over have no real morals and are merely responding to media propaganda and government manipulation like mindless sheep for the benefit of the industrial military complex. Both Eisenhower and Kennedy warned of this
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@Frups12345678 of course you did, the famous place of north east Ukraine. You're probably one of the paid 60 thousand US online propagandists, only an American would have such poor geography to not know the name of the place they were claiming to have lived in. Yes, Russians are well known for their love of stout aren't they? Americans really are ignorant
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@SuiSSe-Torture-Prisonniers-CH do you know many Russians that like stout?
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@SuiSSe-Torture-Prisonniers-CH truth hurts huh
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