Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Belarus' Lukashenko calls on EU to take in more migrants" video.

  1. There's no such thing as an "unlawful arrival" when it comes to refugees seeking asylum. Everyone at the Polish border right now, be it coming through Belarus or Ukraine, has an absolute right to have their asylum claim processed.
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  2.  @two_tier_gary_rumain  No mate, that's not even remotely how that works.
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  3.  @arthurmark2013  A refugee has absolutely zero to do with the amount of money in their bank account. Someone moving for economic reasons is an economic migrant. We aren't talking about economic migrants. A refugee is someone fleeing war, violence, persecution or conflict. The convention on refugees defines a refugee as “someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion.” You can be a billionaire and still be a refugee. Edward Snowden, a man with significant financial resources is a great example of a refugee. He felt persecution for being a government whistle blower. Alexi Navalny also a refugee, one who fled directly to Germany. He's a millionaire and was granted asylum. Being a refugee has nothing to do with wealth. With that said, one would hope if you sold everything you own and withdrew every cent you have, that'd you'd be able to pull together €99 for a plan ticket from Turkey to Belarus. There's plenty who fly directly to Germany. Again, the majority are coming on foot through Ukraine and Belarus. There's a few who can afford a plane ticket from their life savings but most are walking. Those who have flown, walk from the airport to the border. You're the one who actually has no clue.
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  4.  @monro2447  not quite. UN conventions and declarations require signatories to ratify the convention or declaration they've signed up to domestically within 24 months. That has occurred in the EU, which Poland as a member state is bound by. Signatories who fail to live up to their obligations under a convention or declaration can face sanctions and embargos, critically without the need for a vote either in the GA, UNHCR or the UNSC. The UNSC can further vote to use force to end the practice. But perhaps most importantly of it all, as the convention on refugees has it's foundations in the UNHCR, it absolutely has a central body administering it and there can be criminal prosecutions through the ICC for governments who step too far.
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  5.  @monro2447  🤦🤦 Your idea of vast majority seems to differ from the definition. There are 215 countries in the world, the majority do not support Poland. A handful of countries in the EU support Poland, and yankville supports them so far as Belarus is concerned. Beyond that, the remaining 200 or so countries either explicitly do not support Poland, or have no opinion. China for example does not support Poland and is using this incident to destroy any EU credibility on human rights it ever had, whilst attempting to build credibility of their own. Chinese sanctions on the EU would seriously effect the economies of member states, particularly Germany and France. With Chinese sanctions would quickly change Germany from supporting Poland, to throwing Poland completely under the bus. Countries don't go to jail, individuals do. People responsible. Poland isn't "protecting it's borders".
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  6.  @monro2447  ROFLMAO. That's some nice EU propaganda you've got there. I know you didn't make it up all on your own. Someone's been watching a bit too much DW. You want a dose of truth and reality, ok. You're right not all 215 countries are equal, I never said otherwise. I said the majority don't support Poland. Of the G20, just 4 support Poland. Of the G7 just 2 support Poland. No matter what way you slice it the majority do not support Poland. Period. Yes, a number of countries have come out and explicitly condemned Poland and the EU over the handling of this crisis. Human rights isn't a virtue signal, when used in the context of geopolitical negotiation or communication human rights is a weapon. When used in the context of economic deals, human rights is a means of coercion. If you think China has anything whatsoever to lose by destroying the EU on human rights you're out of your mind. If you think any trade deals with China are at risk without China's say so, then you are completely clueless. China own the global supply chain of essentially every industry. There's no industries, even domestic industries, that aren't touched in some way by China. The reason yankville wanted to make clear they didn't want a cold war with China is because they know they've already lost. China already owns us all. Destroying the EU on human rights helps China by forcing the EU to step back from sanctions and taking the human rights issues the EU has with China off the table. That's why China has already publicly started on at the EU about human rights. China can only win from it. You've also far overstated China's problems. Xi isn't going to let the Chinese economy crumble, that would end him. He's in it for life. Not to mention, the Chinese economy crumbling would make the 2008 GFC look like a walk in the park. Picture Lebanon, everywhere with runaway global hyperinflation. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with this, but it sure is helping to show your true colours. The Syrian war is a war started and perpetuated by yankville and the EU. Syrians are by definition all automatic refugees. It's Europe's and Yankvilles mess to clean up, you ruined their country you owe them. Moreover Merkel invited them to Germany. That invite can't be revoked very easily, you have to wait a few decades. No one is taking over your country. No one is introducing Sharia to Europe. Those are pathetic, empty nonsense arguments to make. Come back when you're able to form an actual rational argument that doesn't rest on your racism and xenophobia.
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  7.  @arisplugis5197  You put them in Germany. Because Germany invited them Again the majority are from Syria. I hate to break this to you but 40,000 are going to come regardless of what you do or say to this 4000. The bad economy in Iraq is because of the two Iraq wars over the last 20 years, are you kidding? Their governance was installed by yankville and the EU, get real. Iraq is recognised internationally as a refugee departure country. Everyone currently at the Polish borders with Belarus and Ukraine is a genuine refugee under international law. If you don't want them to come, you shouldn't have destroyed their countries and Germany shouldn't have invited them to come over.
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  8.  @two_tier_gary_rumain  What a pathetic try hard reply that doesn't even make sense in the context of the conversation. Come back when you've finished highschool kid.
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  9.  @monro2447  As if your previous comments weren't enough you had to go and demonstrate conclusively that you're an ideological extremist. I'm not a "lefty or, on "the left" and frankly the concept of me being a bleeding heart is laughable. I'm not an ideological extremist. I deal in facts, in reality and the merits of the specific situation, at a given time. I called you a racist and a xenophobic because those are objectively accurate descriptions of your displayed behaviour in this thread. And even then I only pointed to that behaviour in the context of your argument resting on those traits. What's most telling is after giving you endless substance and calling you out on having none through demonstration, you attempt to parrot it back to me while you take your ball and go home. What a sad, pathetic little person you have proven to be. No argument. Nothing intelligent or insightful to say. Not even a good or funny quip or ad hom. Just insecurity, tribalism and tired old parroting.
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  10.  @two_tier_gary_rumain  Yawn. Your facetious hyperbole isn't just sad, it belittles those whom endured WW2.
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