Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Protests against dumping sewage in seas and rivers" video.

"We're protesting this water being filled with sewage....by standing and swimming around in it." 😂😂😂😂 Complete muppets.
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Not at all true. You make £72B profit and you get a fine for £3M. Those laws are still on the books by the way. Waterways across the EU are just as disgusting.
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@gregc.5684 No mate, that's truth.
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@gregc.5684 You're right, my saying it doesn't make it true. Reality does, I'm just describing reality.
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@gregc.5684 Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Funny that you call me son, good chance I'm older than you. Get a clue Greg. My comment is verifiable fact.
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Learn to read @gregc.5684 I said waterways across the EU. They does not mean every single waterway 🤡
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No. She was just right, profit isn't a dirty word, it's the word that means you have a job.
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@makh That's not about profit. That's about a failure of government to adequately regulate and enforce regulation. But you have to understand, fixing the problem isn't free it has to come from consumers. That's how it works regardless of whether it's privately owned or state owned.
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@makh So let me get this straight. You're upset because investors, that is the entities which provide capital to the waterways so they can run their operations, have made a return on those investments the entire reason they invested in the first place? And you are further upset, that the c-suite are paid market rates for their jobs? Lastly, you're upset that you feel profits aren't channelled back into the business even though you have no evidence of that and there's a 100% certainty that revenues have been turned back into the business otherwise it wouldn't continue to operate. You appear to think that people with more money than you should have to pay out of their own pockets, or forfeit being paid their market salaries for their honestly quite difficult jobs, in order that you personally don't have to pay for a thing you want them to do or that you place importance on. When we talk about state owned assets, something as simple as building a bridge or upgrading a roadway results in government needing to recoup those monies too by way of tolls, higher taxes, or some other form of levy against consumers. Can you name a single project that was undertaken without the consumer ultimately having to pay for it? This is less about agreeing to disagree so much as it appears you reside in some kind of mentally fabricated fantasy world and become upset when reality forces it's way in.
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@albeano-gc2hr No, the only wind up here is your idiotic comment.
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@makh I'm sorry but your description of capitalism isn't real. Everything after you get paid, and if you mess up you might get fired is wrong. Businesses of any scale don't automatically go bankrupt or stop operating because they "messed up" or even because they broke a law. I'd be surprised to hear about a company with profits in excess of £2M pa (which is still a small business) that hasn't broken a law somewhere and suffered some kind of fine. The nature of business is to push up against regulation in order to maximise profit, and that results in creep into the unlawful. It's only remedied when government pushes back on an adequate way. When even ultra small businesses, mom and pop corner stores, need to pay for some kind of fine, they "mess up" or they want to undertake some kind of upgrades, guess who pays for it? That's right, their customers. If netting £72Bn profit through the breaking of regulations results in an inconsistently enforced maximum penalty of £3M those revenue numbers stack up. Those are insufficient regulations to change behaviour. It's the equivalent of fining people 1p for speeding and no demerit points. How many people do you think would ignore speed limits if their maximum potential penalties would be a fine for 1p and that might only happen 1 out of 20 times they speed. It's worse than that though. What if the maximum penalty was 1p for speeding and the only way you could get caught was if you self reported to police. The penalty should be an uncapped percentage of gross revenues, and the environment ministry should be actively monitoring the waterways daily. Listen, the NHS is state run, it's going to need investment to fix. Where do you think that money is going to come from? Where do you think the money for higher nurses wages would come from if it has to be new money? The consumer ALWAYS pays. There's conflict of interest in every endeavour in existence regardless of who runs it or the conditions under which it operates. That isn't the problem here. As CH4 keeps repeating the system hasn't seen any substantial upgrade since Victorian times. That ended in 1901 mate, we're talking about a sewages and water runoff system that's basically 122 years old. It wasn't upgraded by government when it was state owned. Where do you think private business would have gotten the proceeds to upgrade it over the last 30 years they've had control? The consumer. You'd pay for it either way, it's really just about when. They've been doing these spills since before privatisation. They weren't going to magically stop just because it stopped being state owned. If the companies had proactively decided to increase prices to fix the problem decades ago, how do you think consumers would have reacted? Now they have consumer demand to justify price increases behind. You don't get anything for free mate. You can't expect government and business to pay your way.
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@mattj905 You should be sorry, because yet again you're talking garbage. Decades? The waterways (which are naturally occurring bodies of water) have existed for millennials, not decades 🤣 What is provided by water companies are • Plumbing infrastructure & maintenance • Water pumping • Water treatment and recycling • Sewage systems • Water overflow systems • etc Scotland and Ireland have thousands of spills annually too, it's just not in the news right now. Spills happen across the whole of the UK. Heck, they happen across the EU too. At least UK waterways don't have 3M plants dumping PFAS directly into them like Germany is dealing with right now. These spills have been happening since before privatisation, which itself occurred 30 years ago. They occur as an overflow, so that sewage doesn't back up into people's homes because the wastewater network is a 120 year old legacy system that hasn't had major upgrades in all that time, including whilst state run. Scotland and Ireland are likewise dealing with legacy wastewater systems.
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