Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Greater Manchester Police making 'disproportionate arrests'" video.

Why? She wasn't charged. They could see she was under the influence of something, a welfare check by a family member had been requested, she clearly was in a poor state of mind. They needed cause to hold her in custody so they could monitor her and ensure she doesn't harm herself or have a medical emergency. So, they found a cause. It's something that happens hundreds of thousands of times a day across the OECD, not even just the UK. They do it all throughout Europe. They do it across North America and Oceania. What's the problem exactly? Would you rather police just walk away whilst she's under the influence? Perhaps not even attend welfare check calls, would that make you feel better? What a joke
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Why did you cut him off mid sentence?
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@lemcakes32422 Come out from behind your pseudonym if you want to talk to me. Don't hide, be accountable for your words.
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How do you think police should proceed if they're doing a welfare search, if only 1 female officer on duty is present in the facility at the time a female detainee is brought in? What about if a female detainee is high on ice (common) and thus exceptionally aggressive. If female officers lack the physical strength to restrain such a person to perform such a search, how should police proceed? Why is the focus of clothes being removed and digity only ever considered in these kinds of stories and by people like you in terms of female detainees? Why does it have to be a gendered problem? Indeed, you're focused on male officers present during a female search, but you've neglected to consider female officers present during a male search or even homosexual female officers. What about a trans officer, what should police do there in terms of them being present during welfare searches? The world isn't black and white, ideal circumstances are rarely available. Welfare searches take place on video so any impropriety is captured and can be prosecuted. At the end of the day people in custody aren't on a holiday. They've either committed a crime or they're under the influence of something which makes them a danger to themselves or others. I mean, if this is shocking to you I'd hate to see how you feel about people on mental health wards and under section 12 orders.
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 @jzilla1234 Didn't you watch the video? Arrests are up 52% and CONVICTIONS are up by 30% That means the majority of arrests, some 86% end with a conviction. Those are healthy figures.
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@woges5093 The picture you're painting is false. You're raging about something you're completely ignorant too. Police didn't randomly turn up. They turned up for a welfare check called in by a family member. They found the person under the influence of an unknown substance and acting erratically whom would not open the door to them or speak with them for their welfare check. So before we go any further we have a concerned family member worried this person may be in trouble and police arriving to find she is in fact in trouble. That gives them the right to enter the premises by force. Once they do enter the home, she's clearly heavily intoxicated. Police have a duty of care to her and the concerned family member at this point. They can not leave her in that state. Hospitals do not have facilities for intoxicated people to be observed until they sleep it off. That's a role police serve. Indeed hospitals call police to take intoxicated people into holding. They invent a reason to arrest her, something that happens everywhere on earth, in order to have the authority to take her into holding. They do a welfare search to make sure she doesn't have any additional substances or objects on her that may pose a risk to herself or others. Intoxicated people on certain substances, such as ice, can rapidly turn to self harm so they replace her clothing with the specialty safety clothing which prevents self harm. They do not provide her with a blanket immediately because a feature of ice is to heat the body whilst making the user feel cold. This can (and frequently does) result in permanent brain damage, coma or death. Not providing things like blankets for unknown substance intoxication for the first 1-2 hours of observation is the proper medical procedure. The police performed their 5 minute obs on her and she's alive today. If they hadn't acted and she ran into traffic or ODed you'd be here calling that disgusting too because you have no clue what you're talking about and just let the news tell you how to feel. Grow up and act like an adult.
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@amxaas4450 As a general concept, yes "bad" is subjective. It just isn't subjective in the context of policing where it's dictated by legislation.
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Custody where they could monitor her was appropriate given the NHS is in a shambles.
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Arresting more people because you're solving more crimes as the statistics verify, and the very video you're commenting on discusses not one, not twice, not thrice, but four times throughout,is absolutely a sign of greater police effectiveness. Arrests are up 52% and convictions are up 30%. That's 30% more crimes solved. 1/3rd more cases closed, each year. This coverage isn't claiming these improvements aren't great. It's claiming the police training, resources and funding, along with the resources, staffing and funding of the greater legal system need work. Obviously though that isn't going to happen over night, but all the plans for that to happen are in place. So really this is what you call a low fruit story, a cheap whack at a system in transition.
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@stuartjohn5149 AKA trust me bro 😉👌 lol. Anyone can make claims. I can claim I'm left with one leg because you beat me up and threw me off a building. That doesn't make it true. Demonstrate your claim of police violence including the context for the police violence and the time period it took place in, or gtfo.
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@lemcakes32422 Go away little troll
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@sighfly2928 Crikey so many pseudonyms talking nonsense tonight. Yes, police absolutely lock people under the influence in a cell until they sleep it off and do 5 minute checks. They do that hundreds if not thousands of times a day across the UK alone. But it happens millions of times a day across the world. Hospitals do not have facilities for drunk & intoxicated persons. They literally take them to police or ask police to come collect them. It's a defined part of their job under legislation, and that kind of legislation exists in every western country on earth. Police are first aid trained and have explicit training on dealing with intoxicated persons. They have clearly defined protocols and procedures. Yes, welfare searches are extremely common for people under the influence. Again happens in every police force in a western country. In many such circumstances police have to check that you don't have anything on you that may harm you or someone else. They're looking for drugs, sharp objects, bits of string, that kind of thing. The reason they change clothes is for your own safety. People under the influence of certain drugs can rapidly turn to self harm. Things like shoe laces, belts, metal buttons, knitted clothing, etc all pose a risk to safety. Those custody shorts are specially designed to keep you from having yourself. The same thing happens to people when they're sectioned, only with less dignity or care. The reason they leave her without a blanket for 90 minutes is again for her own health. The station is heated. Drugs like ice make people feel cold when really their body is hot. This can cause permanent brain damage,coma and death if the intoxicated individual makes themselves too hot. Thus standard procedure in medical settings to avoid things like blankets for 1-2 hours of observation where you are unsure what the substance taken is. Yes, I guess all of this stuff might be confronting to a lay person with know real understanding of what's going on. But with 18 years in medicine I can assure you they didn't do anything wrong to that woman. Perhaps at most were too lazy to give her a top, but there may have been circumstances involved we're not aware of. Such as a shortage of tops returned from the linen service, or another protocol they were following similar to the blanket. Otherwise everything seemed above board. This whole video is a beat up.
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@jujutrini8412 Pseudonyms making the identical false claim suggest sick puppet accounts for a single individual. Get lost troll, you have no clue what you're talking about
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@RankinMsP Stop trying to make this a gender issue. It's not one. This isn't something that doesn't happen hundreds of thousands of times a day around the world. Your nativity and ignorance precludes you from having an opinion Come out from behind your pseudonym.
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🤡 legislation determines whom the "bad people" are.
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@amxaas4450 "Judgement day"? Is that some kind of threat, weirdo?
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@amxaas4450 You don't live after death mate. Take your storybook delusions and scram.
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@sandraespinozq3801 No. Haven't you heard. Arrests and convictions are up
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@crotchet1586 Another pseudonym talking nonsense about something you clearly don't understand.
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@crotchet1586 Yawn. You know exactly what I was calling nonsense. Go away little pseudonym troll
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@billkosses3808 You know how unconscious intoxicated people become conscious again and can have hidden more of whatever substance on themselves? You know how if they take more they can OD or if under the influence of certain substances use things like shoe laces, belts or knitted clothing to self harm. Amazing.
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@lemcakes32422 What a completely and utterly absurd comment from a pseudonym sock puppet account. YouTube really need to do something about your kind. Put a bucket over your head.
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