Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Student poverty: Quarter of UK universities run food banks" video.

If you can't afford university, don't go? There's a massive skills shortage on jobs that don't require university... By far university isn't your only option.
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No. Uni isn't the point of education. The point of education is to create employees and functional members of society. Universities were designed from their inception to be for the top 6% of society. The remaining 94% of a generation are supposed to participate in other kinds of tertiary training or find other gainful employment. They are trying to get people who do not belong in uni to go in order to benefit from increased profits.
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@lee9650 I'm sorry but no. You are confused. Education has always been "based around grades" much more so in the past than now. It's purpose is and always has been to prepare you to be an employee and functioning member of society. That's why school is set out as it is, why a schools org chart is how it is, it's why students wear uniforms, it's why communal breaks exist and social skills are built, it's why the subjects taught are what they are. It's likewise why we refer to education as an academic career. The majority of people in the UK do not go to university. Ever. Just 46% do and 59% are mature age students. Half of those who do graduate university never use their degree Someone somewhere (probably your parents) didn't explain things to you properly as a child, so you have misunderstood the purpose of things.
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@petrus_red No. It absolutely should not. The overwhelming majority of people do not need university training at all, nor are they of the academic standard for university
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2:09 "We've supported students for decades" This is not in any way, shape, or form a new phenomenon. Nor is it particular to any government. It's how the system is set up to function.
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@lee9650 Yeah no, that's a false equivalency. It's nothing like saying don't go to school if you can't afford lunch. No one is talking about groceries. Perhaps more importantly schooling is compulsory because it teaches you how to be an employee and a member of society. Whether you realise it or not, you use the things you are taught in school throughout day to day life. University is not. Everyone would like to be in a better position than they're in. Everyone, it's a key function of social animals that the individuals should always be striving to better their position. I'd like to be richer than Bezos but that doesn't mean I'm entitled to it in any way. Bettering ones position is about hard work, means and talent. It is fraudulent to suggest that the only means for someone to better their position is by going to university. Here are some ONS figures to help you with the facts. • 50% of UK university graduates do not work in their field of study. HALF! • Only 13% of graduates stay in the same job for more than 4 years. • 59.9% of first year university students are mature students (21+). • 57% of high school graduates do not go to university Skills shortage jobs tend to pay better than their non-shortage counterparts. I suggest you actually take a look at the list. A list mine you that only exists because 46% of school leavers think they have to go to university to do a handful of courses, where half of undergraduates will never work in that field anyway. How much paying "enough" is, seems a lot like how long is a piece of string. What I can tell you is that the median full-time income in the UK is £31K. IT roles, trades, technician and STEM support roles, health and social care support roles and roles relating to the arts all feature predominantly on the list. Many of the IT roles in question just require the relevant certs, which involve self study and passing a single paid test. Then you enter roles where the median income is £39K. There are also IT traineeships where you are paid to learn. Technician and other STEM support roles likewise are entry level roles often doing on the job training or at most a 1 year college certificate. Their median income is £34K Orchestral musicians are apparently in short supply. They make a median of 29K with only their instrument training required. Trades have the benefit of paid apprenticeships so you are paid to learn. After finishing the apprenticeship, skilled registered tradesmen make between £66K - £90K median depending on the specific trade. Business traineeships pay you to learn how to be a manager where the median income is £42K There is nothing stopping someone who can not afford university as a school leaver, going out to work, saving up and returning to university if that's what they really want. Remember 59.9% of uni students are mature age now, so that's clearly what many people are doing. You are not entitled to any position in life. You are not entitled to university. If you can not afford university, don't go. Look elsewhere for gainful employment.
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@tigading2177 Yes. They absolutely should stop complaining. No, not because they live in a democracy. Because no one in society is entitled to any level of training, income or standard of living. You can either afford university or you can not. It isn't for everyone and was never intended to be
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@jakereevesward4562 Were you near a mirror at the time?
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@jimbowen423 Similar to the rate they went up over the preceding 13 years, and the 13 years before that... Moreover, universities have stopped being elite institutions of higher learning. They have instead lowered their standards drastically in order to allow as many people entry as possible, particularly lucrative international students. This behaviour turns universities from centres of academia into corporatised paper mills focused solely on profit. This in turn lowers the value of such a qualification in the labour market. University is intended for the top 6% of academic performers in a given year. It is not intended for everyone.
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@barastrasz4157 "No one is talking about being entitled" Goes on to list why they feel they're entitled. 🤣 Inventors don't go to university. Very few of the greatest scientists have come from poverty. Your argument is a non-sequitur. The average punter isn't very good at anything, that's why they aren't getting hired from their degrees. University is for the ACADEMIC (not financially) elite. Most people do not belong there
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@barastrasz4157 Do you have ADHD or something? You kind of veered off to someone else at the end there. Actually, yes it is entirely relevant. No, their degrees aren't getting them work that's the entire point being made. People do have a right to seek a better life. If they can't afford it though, they have no right to it.
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@lee9650 No. That's not what I'm saying. You've misunderstood everything I've said in addition to the purpose .of primary, secondary and tertiary education. You are a fool.
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@Teetea2973 No one gets a job just for attending any uni.
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@Teetea2973 Yes, because they didn't get jobs for attending the uni.
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@lee9650 You again. What are you confused about now?
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@lee9650 The utter irony. 🤡😂
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@lee9650 Not at all. Indeed, that makes no sense in context. Yet another thing you're confused about. Are you sure you went to uni?
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@lee9650 Yikes. Your confusion is hitting a fever pitch. There is no comprehension issue, if you were able to comprehend what I said that would be clear. If, instead of being so defensive you stopped for a moment to consider the context of our opposing positions with your statement you might understand what's being said. If not, that's ok. You don't really need to understand why you've made a clown of yourself I guess. It's a reasonable assumption that you've gone to university. One supposes you may not have, but that would only make your position all the more untenable. I mean you surely could just be here as a contrarian chicanery, that is indeed possible. But I'd prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're at least genuine.
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