Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Drowning, kidnap and jaguars - travelling the deadly Darien Gap migrant route to the USA" video.

  1. 2:34 "For just the chance to live a safer life..." No, no that isn't what the migrant said. She said she had no money in Venezuela so she couldn't afford to eat and that was her motivation. They risk their lives with people smugglers because they're sick of being poor. That's called an economic migrant and such migration without a valid visa is illegal. It's precisely migration like hers that everyone across the OECD is trying to stop. Only people fleeing war and particular kinds of political persecution are valid asylum seekers. Venezuela has neither of those things.
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  2.  @kanthe1774  No. This does not have anything to do with "humanity" and it's frankly an emotional grasp at straws you would claim otherwise. My mortgage is getting very expensive lately under inflation, is it inhumane if you call the police because I break in your house and tell you I'm going to live there for free now? Abuse of the asylum system threatens the existence of the asylum system and the UDHR more broadly. Signatory countries across the OECD have been talking of leaving the conventions for years, with each year their considerations become more serious. It's a big enough threat that the UNGA have been in negotiations surrounding altering the UDHR to potentially remove article 14. That is far less than ideal, we need people in genuine need to have free travel for the purpose of seeking asylum. Illegal economic migration is a crime, everywhere. The convention is actually explicit of this fact. It is not only a threat to the stability of host economies, but it is a type of colonialism. People from undeveloped and developing countries are not crossing illegally into developed countries with skills. Those whom have desired skills come via legal channels. There is no market demand for unskilled and low skilled labour, so when such labour floods the market via illegal migration it dilutes the labour pool even further, driving down wages and conditions. It's why large corporations who have big percentages of their workforce in unskilled or low skilled labour love economic migration, it lowers their costs and gives them market dominance. It means employees get unlivable wages and no chance of ever changing that. That has knock on effects throughout society. It increases taxpayer burden on welfare, creates homeless, which feeds into drug use. Then you get desperation driving crime. Unregulated border crossings rob governments of their ability to plan infrastructure, so you get high inflation, housing crisis, higher crime, lower productivity which then leads to higher inflation and recession. Unregulated borders cause harm to millions, it is the inhumane thing to do. Like I previously touched on it is also a form of colonialism. The weak of a source country can not make such journeys, they must remain. Only the strong, the best of the community can go. But those are the same people a undeveloped or developing country needs to develop. When they leave for developed countries they are stolen in a type of colonialism which prevents the source country from ever growing and developing, it keeps them down so they can never compete and remain under the control of the wealthy. This is another reason large corporations love illegal migration, it keeps the source countries which often have high resources in a state of chaos and thus they can be exploited. Only the ultra wealthy benefit from illegal migration, no one else. Not the house countries, not the source countries, not the illegal economic migrants themselves. When economic migration is regulated and secured, everyone wins. The host country gets more skilled labour that they need and higher productivity. The economic migrant gets a higher quality of living. The source country gets increased foreign aid to assist with their development. Wages increase under this scenario, because the market is kept in balance and tax revenues increase in parallel so governments can plan infrastructure and provide adequate services. Keeping borders secured is for everyone's benefit except the ultra rich who hate it because it increases their costs.
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  3. Poverty isn't a protected condition. You can not claim asylum from poverty.
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  4. @Beckie  No it doesn't, you're having to do some mental acrobatics in order to make such a claim. "A safer life" is a direct call to the words of article 14 of the UDHR and the refugees convention. No one is unsafe merely by being in poverty. Safety is about level of threat of attack. Asylum, meaning to protect from attack, is a very specific thing. It isn't just a word to be thrown around as a catch all virtue signal for anyone seeking to make an irregular border crossing for any reason. It is a legal term which refers exclusively to the TEMPORARY protection of persons fleeing from war or political persecution. It explicitly excludes people whom have committed crimes, and generalised persecution. Someone claiming asylum may only be granted the legal status of refugee if they satisfy the criteria for asylum and there is the reasonable expectation by the host country that the cause for their asylum will one day end and they can return to their home country. For example, it is the expectation that once the war in Ukraine ends all of the Ukrainian refugees will lose refugee status and be sent back to Ukraine. It is a very specific thing. It isn't poverty. Poverty is a sovereign problem.
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  5.  @brassmonkeyidaho  /whoosh right over your head. Also, yes. High inflation has everything to do with immigration.
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  6.  @brassmonkeyidaho  Reality. Get out of here kid
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  7.  @brassmonkeyidaho  Which country is "this country"? Remember, I said poverty isn't a right to asylum. Legal economic migration is still a thing. Those with value, which I have, are in high demand.
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  8.  @trqoiz  You mean events a CENTURY before the UDHR and thus the asylum system we're talking about existed? 🤦 At a time when all of Ireland was still part of the UK so they were all already UK citizens. 🤣🤡 Seriously what a ridiculous comment to make. No wonder you're hiding behind a pseudonym when you've only got empty headed junk like that to say. If you want to be involved in this conversation 1. Come out from behind your pseudonym 2. Stay on topic. If you don't actually understand what the system is about, you have nothing of value to say.
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