Comments by "TJ Marx" (@tjmarx) on "Israel-Hezbollah: Exchanges of Lebanon border fire escalate as regional tensions rise" video.

We already found that out, although evidence suggests death isn't always when we think of it. But just like we know about evolution and there are still creationists, we know about the permanency of death and there are still martyrs. Reality is of no concern for many people. They'd rather hear a good story and believe it than face the harshness of reality. The psychology that gets people to believe in religion, is the same psychology of conspiracy rumours and special thinking. At its core though, this is a dispute over power and land, religion is often used throughout history to obscure such campaigns. Even if we somehow managed to rid the world of religious belief, this conflict would continue. Israels own census data states only 30% of people living in Israel claim to hold any religious belief....
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@justRight72 Not at all, it's completely in line with available evidence.
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@bullymaguire9987 Both sides of what exactly? One must be careful to distinguish between a genuine open mind, and ignoring the evidence to suit a desired narrative. The former is what the scientific method does, the latter tends to be those talking about "keeping an open mind". We have strong evidence that death is final, that we simply cease to exist. We also have failed to find anything remotely approaching a "you" separate to your body despite 400 years of rigorous searching by medical science, many of such researchers wanted to believe but simply couldn't find it. Instead what they found were physiological and chemical processes that explain every last thing that could be described as a "soul". We're all just animals. Apes to be precise. Not special, no magic. One life, one opportunity at it, then it's gone. That's what makes genocide so heinous, that these are innocent people robbed of their chance at life for no valid reason.
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@bullymaguire9987 Isn't it interesting what youtube autodeletes. At any rate, one must be careful to distinguish the differences between genuine open mindedness and ignoring evidence to suit a desired narrative. The former is the scientific method, the latter tends to be those calling on others to hold an open mind. @fishmud3264 That is self defeating nonsense. @Fat_Cat_747 That's a logical fallacy. We can observe what happens at death.
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@justRight72 No. It's the null position. That is, it's the default position you are born with and it's up to religion to come up with the extraordinary evidence to demonstrate their claims are true. So far, all we've objectively found is an abundance of false religious claims, so it isn't looking good.
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@Fat_Cat_747 That's simply not true. It's like claiming we couldn't possibly know what happens in a uterus during pregnancy because babies can't remember... We do know, because we can make observations.
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@Fat_Cat_747 third strike you're out.... you're being a fool at this point. I have answered this already. For the last time, we can observe death medically, scientifically. Please do not respond again, just argue with yourself and reread the comments I've already provided. Hopefully at some point it might click in your brain and you'll feel embarrassed for making such a clown of yourself
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@Fat_Cat_747 Third strike, you're out. You're embarrassing yourself at this point mate. I have understood the very silly argument you have made 3 times now, and for the last tims we can observe death medically, scientifically. You are not making a logical statement, you are making a logical fallacy. First hand is not the only way to experience. I don't know how to say this any clearer, I've already said it 3 rimes I will not say it a forth. It would appear you are experiencing some difficulties of comprehension, that is a problem for ones self. Please do not reply to me again, if you wish to continue this very silly argument please do so with yourself by rereading my existing comments as you continue to make the same faulty argument.
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@Fat_Cat_747 🤦‍♂️ if you actually understood what I was saying you would not be continuing to make such empty assertions.
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@Bellysniffer I don't even know where to start with the absolute moronic comment you just posted. Literally not a single thing you said was accurate.
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@bullymaguire9987 I don't remember specifically what any conversation we were having said, and I don't have time to read the thread again to find out. I know this was vaguely surrounding what we medically know about death. At any rate I will respond to your comment in isolation because it seemingly is more about religion in general as opposed specifically to so with what happens when your brain turns off. Let me say I would urge you to try your hardest to not get defensive at what I'm about to write, and instead to take it in as best you can. There's a real chance if you do that you can improve your life. You have contradicted yourself in your comment my friend. You talk about people seeking to fulfil their own narrative, then do the same thing. You talk about a need for evidence, then demonstrate you have neither evidence nor an understanding of what evidence is. I would strongly encourage you to work on developing your scientific literacy, logic and critical thinking skills. You have the start of them and it would be a shame to squander your potential. To address your specific arguments. The genuine objective evidence is as I have previously stated with regards death. There's 400 years of such evidence, it is quite compelling and I hope you will spend the time to read the scientific literature on the subject. YouTube videos are not evidence. An apparent knowledge gap for science to explain a thing is not evidence that what you want to be true is. You could just have well been born in a different culture with different beliefs and confirmation bias regarding that instead. Most of the time "believers" claim science can't explain something we actually can and it's just the ignorance of the individual. Where science genuinely does not have answers that's exciting because it's an area for science to investigate and with time explain. I want you to think about what science didn't know 6 months ago compared to now, and as impressive a wealth of knowledge even such a short timespan has contributed now consider how much we've learned in the last 4500 since the abtahamic nonsense started. Imagine what we'll know tomorrow. What I'm saying is things we don't understand today we will in the future. Your God of the gaps argument is ever shrinking. To bring it back to this thread, we know for a fact that when you turn off, that's it. There's nothing more. You return to the same state as prior to conception. Again this is bore out in actual medical evidence.
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Why on earth are you seeding conspiracy rumours as if they're facts and spreading blatant misinformation even a 10 second web search can demonstrate is false? Is this some kind of propaganda line bubbling up from government or Tel Aviv? Hezbollah are one of 3 religious based factions that make up the Lebanese government. To claim government have no control over Hezbollah is absurd when they are in fact 1/3 of government. Hezbollah are firing rockets on behalf of Hezbollah, but the reason they have rockets in the first place and can fire them is because they make up part of government. It is absurdist conspiracy to claim Iran is calling the shots. Iran is not in charge, Lebanon have affinity with the Palestinian cause and a quick check of Israels military campaigns in the region, particularly 1967, will help you understand why. For months CH4 gave reasonably accurate information on this conflict, but now it would appear CH4 has sunk into the same agenda driven tabloid nonsense it's otherwise known for. What a shame.
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