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You don't necessarily need money to get women but you better have something to compensate, e.g. confidence, humour, intelligence, chaRIZZma, looks, potential, ambition, pipe game, status, etc. And if you don't live up to your potential or ambition she will punish you for it in divorce and child custody court.
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People, including myself, need to learn to relax, forgive, let go, and move on. 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Letting go of the hate is great for your body and getting rid of stress hormones. You only get one body and mind, take care of them. Don't be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
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My understanding is that women are increasingly out competing men, e.g. education, higher salaries in their 20's, dominating the intake of the professions (e.g. law, medicine, PhD research, etc). While men are being consumed by their screens, e.g. OF, P Hub, YT, gaming, etc. I can only see this gap continuing to increase as more and more women prefer to be single, focus on their career, and not have to worry about children, etc. We are already seeing this trend in Japan.
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the red pill is not about men hating women. The 2 main components of nearly all red pill content are 1. self improvement to become more appealing to women, and 2. how to minimize the risks that come with relationships, e.g. divorce laws, pre-nups, unequal property division, alimony, child custody battles, legal fees, false allegations, common law marriage, biased judges, marriage being short term, etc. The problem is that laws and judges are extremely unfair and unfortunately many men go into things like marriage without realizing how dangerous and damaging it is. The red pill allows men who have been badly burnt by the system, to share their experiences, so that other men in the future don't get screwed over by making silly decisions. Although the guys who have been destroyed by the system can't save themselves, it's too late for them, they can help to save their sons and other guys about to make the biggest mistakes of their lives.
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there is no such thing as a "high value man". just ask bill gates, jeff bezos, elon musk, brad pitt, johnny depp, tom brady, dr dre, kanye west, tyrese, etc etc and all the other divorced millionaires. babies and child support and wedding rings are high value, not the man.
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@susangarrard2753 the red pill is not about men and women hating each other. The 2 main components of nearly all red pill content are 1. how to attract women/self improvement to become more appealing to women, and 2. how to minimize the risks that come with relationships, e.g. divorce laws, pre-nups, unequal property division, alimony, child custody battles, legal fees, false allegations, common law marriage, biased judges, etc. The problem is that laws and judges are extremely unfair and unfortunately many men go into things like marriage without realizing how dangerous and damaging it is. The red pill allows men who have been badly burnt by the system, to share their experiences, so that other men in the future don't get screwed over by making silly decisions. Although the guys who have been destroyed by the system can't save themselves, it's too late, they can help to save their sons and other guys about to make the biggest mistakes of their lives.
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"what do men get out of relationships?" ....... erm, loads actually. Men get headaches, moaned at, complained at, shouted at, hen pecked, drama, chaos, regret, arguments, bossed around, stress, etc.
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@annesmith9181 generally speaking, married couples earn more than unmarried couples. Consequently, it is the money (rather than the marriage) that is giving children from married couples an advantage. For example, if two Harvard educated people have kids outside of wedlock, those kids are likely to do better than the kids of two married criminals. Marriage is purely imaginary, it is just a piece of paper and a wedding ring. I think one of the reasons marriage is becoming less and less common is because kids of divorce then get nervous to marry after seeing their parents fight over the kids, money, house, child support, alimony, etc for decades. In other words, the divorce laws/divorce judges are eating and cannibalising marriage across the generations. As more and more kids are born into divorce, it reduces the number of people in the next generation willing to take on the risks of marriage (this applies to both genders, e.g. daughters scared to marry after seeing their mothers having to chase their lazy fathers for money, or sons scared to marry after seeing their fathers lose his wages, house and kids).
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@dinos9607 I disagree. I think the 2 most crucial factors are 1. mental stability, calmness, patience and tolerance levels of each person. Marriage is monotonous and boring so you need someone who is mentally stable, calm, patient and tolerant to endure the monotony and boredom of marriage. 2. survival. in my parents and grand parents day, marriages stayed together because both spouses needed each other to survive. now the family courts are biased to wives, and wives generally have jobs, they don't need a man once the man has bought them a house and given her kids. Marriage has got very little, if anything, to do with ethics. If anything, you can use ethics as a reason to justify divorce, e.g. a wife will say divorce is ethical in order to get a boring and unambitious husband out of the family home.
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@schmetterling4477 The problem with the "chose wisely" argument is that is fails to take into account changes in people's emotions, feelings, love fading, etc. The women you marry at 25 years old (young, free, single, slim, etc) is very different to the women you divorce at 35 years old (older, fatter, 2 kids, sleep deprived, post natal depression, been through miscarriages, surgeries, career stalled, etc). So even if you do chose wisely, events outside of your control mean you can still end up divorced. It is not a case of "chose wisely". It is more a case of chose "low risk" or not chose at all (MGTOW).
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@annesmith9181 I think the points you make about informal partners and grandparents relates to the actual parents themselves rather than a piece of paper/ring (i.e. marriage). For example, I think it is unlikely kids of unmarried Harvard educated doctors would be exposed to informal partners (compared to unemployed married criminals who may be cheating or polygamous or end up divorced, etc). I think the best way to save marriage would be for there to be compulsory pre-nups, e.g. a pre-nup that states the % of income the husband pays to the wife as alimony and for how many years, and the % capital the husband pays to the wife. At least then, both people have financial security as both people know exactly what they will get/lose on divorce and both people who have agreed upon a % structure (e.g. 50 : 50 split for no kids, 60 : 40 split for one kid, 70 : 30 split for 2 kids, 75 : 25 split for 3+ kids). Unfortunately, the current system which actively incentivizes bad behaviour from both sides during divorce, causes huge amounts of money to be wasted in legal fees, and where both sides live in fear as they have no idea what the Judge will order, cannot be a good thing in the long term across generations.
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@ricardomartinhodacruz CGA and Better Bachelor would go bankrupt over night if all the guys who have suffered or are currently suffering with divorce, alimony, child support modifications, losing the house, paying two sets of astronomical legal fees, dealing with biased judges, involved in custody battles and parental alienation, etc stopped watching. Most of CGA and Better Batchelors audience are divorced guys that have suffered at the hands of the divorce system. There would be no CGA and no Better Bachelor if the millions of suffering guys were not supporting them with youtube views, super chats, patreon subscriptions, book purchases, etc.
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@YellowKing1986 If you read the Bible and what it says about Eve not listening and eating the apple, Delilah betraying Samson, Jezebels, women being the downfall of King David and King Solomon, etc. If you read the lyrics to Elvis Presley's "hard headed women" song from the 1950's, high divorce rates since the 1970's and introduction of birth control, etc it is pretty obvious men and women, regardless of whether there is a father and religion, have always had their problems since the beginning of time. The key is to find someone who is genetically mentally stable, calm and patient. You can't fake or learn being mentally stable, calm and patient in long term relationships. You either have that personality or you don't. It is one of the reasons why 2nd marriages have a higher divorce rates (60%) than 1st marriages (50%), and third marriages (70%) have a higher divorce rates than second marriages. For most people, regardless of how much you learn about marriage, you either genetically suited to a long, boring, monotonous 50 year marriage or you are not.
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there is no such thing as a high value man, just ask bill gates, jeff bezos, elon musk, brad pitt, tom brady, johnny depp, dr dre, kanye, tyrese, and all the other divorced millionaire guys. babies and child support are high value, not the man. even "high value men" taking big L's.
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When hearing about the masculinity vs nice guy dynamic, frame, power vs egalitarianism dynamic, sacrifice, self vs us dynamic, consumptive love, presence vs absence dynamic, attachment vs detachment theory, marriage vs black pill dynamic ( 40:00 ), etc, is that relationships and marriages are extremely complicated in 2023.
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If she is making you wait she is not physically-interested in you. She sees other qualities in you, e.g. money, provision, resources, daddy qualities, emotional support, etc. Women will generally make this type of beta male wait to confirm their ability to invest into her, then get married to them, get the house and kids, and then take him to the cleaners in divorce. Beta males are just a means to achieving an end, i.e. financial security and babies.
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I think if a woman marries a poor guy, has multiple kids, and has no childcare support from her parents, it is a huge trap (as you correctly say). However, if a woman marries a guy with a good job, has 1 kid, and has parents to help her with childcare, then I don't think divorce and being a single mom is a trap. If anything, it is likely to be a huge win for her, as she will probably get the money, house and kids on divorce. As someone else said, the same women moaning and complaining about kids, would probably be moaning and complaining about loneliness, boredom, emptiness, etc if they did not have a kid.
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@rogerm3708 💯% facts. women don't want the man. they want the kids, child support and lifestyle to which they have become accustomed to. its the reason so many high value men get divorced after they have given the wife the house and kids (jeff bezos, elon musk, bill gates, tom brady, brad pitt, johnny depp, ruler of dubai, prince charles, arnold schwartzenegger, etc ).
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@eladbari I can see why you are saying, what you are saying. But I think the C19 deniers are a very small % or just a very few high profile red pill'ers. I'm vaccinated and I would also consider myself red pill as well after going through a hellish divorce where I lost 70% of my money, assets and home equity. It is very unfortunate that C19 deniers and red pill is being conflated. C19 denial and red pill are two completely different things. Red pill is just about human psychology, human behaviour, evolutionary biology/genetics as applied to mate attraction, mate selection, divorce, child custody, child support, alimony, etc.
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Some women want their partner to be their everything, e.g. lover, therapist, financier, friend, cheer leader, spiritual leader, events organizer, etc. If you are not her everything for the next 50 years of your marriage, expect her to punish you in divorce court because you have let her down, used her best years and because she "could have done so much better than you".
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