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@williamcrosby3863 the thing about slavery in America was 1) it was based in chattel slavery which was racist in nature unlike ancient slavery of defeated tribes. 2) race was the determinant factor of who will be the enslaved labor class 3) they kept slavery for years after the founding of the Republic, maintaining an economy from an antiquated imperial and colonial time instead of keeping true the values of liberalism and republicanism. Even after the end of slavery, the US being one of the last countries to abolish it on the historical timeline; they maintained the status of black citizens as an oppressed labor class completely undermining the Constitution and 13th amendment.
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@williamcrosby3863 in 1865 well over 1776. The Southern economy depended on a slave class cause the plantation owners were too lazy to work for themselves or to greedy to pay wages for labor. People always forget the actual slave’s feelings on the matter. The US was not founded on slavery, the Constitution didn’t accept it or reject it. The closest it came to mentioning it was the three-fifths compromise. It was a sensitive issue left to the States as not all States had need of slaves. In truth slavery wasn’t needed just the same old story of wealthy assholes exploiting labor. While the Republic wasn’t founded on the issue of slavery, it was there in it’s culture and economic institutions. Fear of disunion, conflict, and frankly being pussies to the slave owning class is what kept the institution.
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@entishmusic yeah but it was under the British Empire, and other European empires slavery of Africans spread to the colonies. It was the colonial system. Abolition became the norm in Britain after industrialization made slavery an obsolete economic model. Same here as the Northern industrializing states were supplanting or taking over the economy making the southern slavery model obsolete.
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@davidbenyehuda7618 you’re one of those Blacks are the real Israel types aren’t you?
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@williamcrosby3863 your excuse is that communications were slow? What are you saying that they abolished slavery in 76’ and it took to 1863 to deliver the messages? Lol It’s simple economics. The minority elite of the land owning slaver south wanted to keep their antiquated economic and social system no matter what. Hence why it lasted so long. The slave owning class were influential in government and held the wealth of the south. It took a civil war and force to put those pseudo aristocratic bitches in their place. Yes America is great in spite of itself. By that I mean that the American Republic are founded on beautiful principles and values that have been an ongoing struggle to fulfill. And that Americans have had to drag other Americans onto progress and freedom. The American Revolution is far from done. “The pretense that the "abolition of slavery" was either a motive or justification for the war, is a fraud of the same character with that of "maintaining the national honor." Who, but such usurpers, robbers, and murderers as they, ever established slavery? Or what government, except one resting upon the sword, like the one we now have, was ever capable of maintaining slavery? And why did these men abolish slavery? Not from any love of liberty in general—not as an act of justice to the black man himself, but only "as a war measure," and because they wanted his assistance, and that of his friends, in carrying on the war they had undertaken for maintaining and intensifying that political, commercial, and industrial slavery, to which they have subjected the great body of the people, both black and white.” “…there is no difference…between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man’s ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure.”   Lysander Spooner
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@Philbert-s2c us genuine libertarians tend to have more objective analysis of history based on economic and state paradigms. We aren’t hurrah the Union, and huzzah the Confederacy! We’re more like they were both authoritarian and statist. One based in chattel slavery; the other in wage slavery. One was stuck in the past, the other ruining the future. Both hindrances to genuine Liberty. My favorite figure of the Civil War period to discuss the issue was our own Lysander Spooner
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@williamcrosby3863 because you speak incoherently and barely anyone can understand you. Be witty and concise and no one will shit on you. You’re making excuses for the Confederacy. They weren’t Jeffersonians. Jefferson would have been as disgusted of their full support for slavery as with the Union’s centralization of powers. I don’t care for giving the Confederacy a pass for a war of elitist interests. That would be like Amazon, Walmart, Apple (modern elites) etc… today starting a war to secede and then claiming they are fighting for freedom rather than to keep an economic system of elites. The only freedom slavers fought for was the freedom to maintain their economy of aristocratic land owners
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@Philbert-s2c frankly I prefer the critique of anarchists like Lysander Spooner and Pierre J Proudhon; which is what I posted. The Marxists and international were in full support of Lincoln and the Republicans. Whereas the libertarian socialists were critical of both the South’s fight to preserve slavery, and the North’s consolidation of powers and their garnering of wage slavery to industrialists
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