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Comments by "BlackFlagsNRoses" (@blackflagsnroses6013) on "Saagar Enjeti: RNC Speaking Line Up Is An Embarrassment Designed To Lose" video.
Schnyder umm... the only anarchists are libertarian socialists. People who want communism and free market socialism. Right “libertarians” are better called propertarians and want capitalism without government. This isn’t anarchist as anarchism is an anti-capitalist philosophy and capitalism breeds a State of capital owning rulers and social classes.
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Eric Saagar seems an economic nationalist and socially conservative and that’s his conservatism
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Eric I suppose yeah in certain ways. His economic nationalism would stem from Hamiltonian American School, tariffs, government spending on infrastructure, helping domestic manufacturers. A sort of right wing economic populism. And he doesn’t want to legalize marijuana, seems against homosexual marriage being legal canon, and typical conservative community values.
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Eric Lol the election of Lincoln and Republicans was the first time American school could be implemented at a large scale. In many ways the election of Lincoln was the movement to end slavery as an economic institution and the full adoption of capitalism and industrialization in the US. Lincoln’s party was of the bourgeois capitalists and industrialists that believed in the capitalist brand of market economics and free labor. They thought the South a backwater culture stuck in old ways. It also goes to show that industrial capitalism has always had the hand of government in it. No such thing has existed as a “free market”
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Eric well that type of Hamiltonian mercantilism is just capitalism with a nationalist protectionist bent. It was these economic ideas that drove the end of slavery which was an antiquated institution to the “enlightened” city dwellers and capitalists. Saager isn’t against market capitalism, but would resolve international trading issues via protectionism. Also would be okay with government assistance of domestic economic issues. So yay for domestic free trading, nay for foreign free trade that hurts American industrialization and jobs. He isn’t a reverse Keynesian (supply side trickle down) and seems opened to proper Keynesianism at some level. Also isn’t against social programs but thinks they can be better implemented. Saager feels animosity towards the economic liberalization brought on by Chicago School legislation and how it has hollowed the American middle class and capitalists are more concerned for doing business with China than bolstering the American economy. All in all I’d say he is an economic populist via economic nationalism, but not a full government takeover of economic issues.
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Eric yeah but the Confederacy wanted to maintain their economic institution that relied on slave labor. And they were State’s Rights because it was the best protection from a Federal government that could push the end of their reliance on slavery as it became the dominion of neo-Federalists. The political centralization of the Republicans was on par with how capitalism developed during the Industrial Age. I think the Confederates were well within their rights to secede, though I hate slavery obviously. I agree with Spooner’s assessment that slavery wasn’t the issue for Republicans, and that they forced the Southern States to remain under a government they no longer felt serve them. Shattering the illusion of federalism and that American federalism was always a farce in it’s chimeric conception by Federalists. He also said slavery was unconstitutional and made the most impressive reasoning of why it was unconstitutional on legal grounds despite what the constitution may have seemingly implied about black Americans. He also supported John Browns crazy rebellion which was cool. To an anarchist like Spooner neither the Republican Unionists or Southern Confederates were fighters for liberty, but he was a great libertarian insight on the Civil War issue, and a staunch abolitionist. Just remember that capitalism is sustained by political centralization so that capitalists may implement their brand of economic liberalism. Hamilton was the father of American capitalism. He just wasn’t for free trade, at least not until the nascent American nation were wealthy enough that growth would require. His protectionism was to build the economy of a young new country with no credit on the global commercial markets.
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Eric regardless I think we both agree that the centralization of Lincoln’s GOP has not ceased and ultimately we live in Hamilton’s America. The Federal has concentrated powers and it’s now the practice of both parties.
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Eric capitalism is the socioeconomic system of private property, wage labor, and capital accumulation. It is maintained by a capitalist state that creates policy and legislation in favor of the capital owning ruling interest. Free market is an an economic doctrine favoring liberal policy on economics via limited or no government involvement and free trade and commerce.
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Eric why are you telling me? I was saying what Saager believes. That Free Trade has sold out the American middles class for corporate business with the State Capitalist Chinese government. I support not capitalism but free market anarchism as a libertarian socialist. I’m not into that capitalist defending Mises Austrian garbage. What Kevin Carson calls “vulgar libertarianism.” Though certain Austrian conceptions are alright when it’s about libertine markets. I’m into Center 4 A Stateless Society and free market anarchism
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