Comments by "BlackFlagsNRoses" (@blackflagsnroses6013) on "What If The Federalists Won? | Alternate History" video.

  1.  @slibertas1996  are they? Jefferson wasn’t social conservative. The Dem-Reps were agrarian populist, more democratic, and secular liberal. Not all but the leadership like Jefferson were scions of an Age of Reason. Embracing Enlightenment principles. Jefferson got into trouble often for being mischaracterized as atheist. He was very secular. The modern Republicans trace their politics back to antebellum and Civil War era conservatism still agrarian, but based in rather reactionary politics of racial and aristocratic power. The southern aristocracy were fully reactionary, writing regrets of Enlightenment principles, calling Jefferson a liberal radical, and hating ideals of the American Revolution, or at least selectively choosing which they wanted. This lead to the KKK era, the reaction against Reconstruction, against Civil Rights, and the embrace of the religious right and illiberal politics. Today the Maga takeover continue that rather conservative streak. Another thing to note is the Republicans took over the pro-business politics which was once the northern liberal Republican Party of Lincoln’s agenda. Southern Republicans embraced industrial capitalism and big business, and northern states embraced social liberalism and business regulation. This sort of means Republicans of today embraces the business elite
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  2. Daveed Diggs was the best part of the play
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  3.  @slibertas1996  which wing is that? I’ll give you Libertarians but even they aren’t exactly Jeffersonian. Especially since the Mises takeover and embracing of monarchism via the neo-reactionary and Hoppean coalitions
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  4. Isn’t Monsieur Z like conservative? Some kind of right wing if I recall correctly
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  5.  @Warrior-Of-Virtue  what video did you watch? Clearly of the Federalists won it’d be an industrialized technocracy not a feudal country. Feudalism is what we would have of the Confederates took over the continent.
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  6.  @MonsieurDean  screw that give me radical Paine-Jeffersonianism.
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  7. We have been headed there and frankly the Hamiltonian vision of America has come to pass more than Jeffersonian
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  8.  @zeehero7280  the difference there is a cultured elite and a wealthy buffoon. Trump wouldn’t have cut it in Federalist circles
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  9.  @shadowbannedaccont9479  I’m more of the liberal tradition as well. But you can’t deny ordered liberty is as American as liberalism. In fact Federalists are classical American traditionalists
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  10.  @ranamekki1942  this is a problem with Marxism. It champions modernity even with ecological consequences
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  11.  @White_Recluse  to be fair to them that’s not what they were going for, they were wary of corruption and unbalancing powers
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  12.  @pubcle  the Federalists weren’t favoring centralized tyranny either, they much desired balancing but believed the national government was supreme and the government at national level has more important duties that effect the nation. John Adams and Hamilton were supporters of individual rights, but not as radically liberal as Jefferson. In fact they believe in temperance and self-moderation, restrain the excess of individualism. Why the Dem-Reps were liberals, the Federalists were for ordered liberty.
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