Comments by "BlackFlagsNRoses" (@blackflagsnroses6013) on "Bernie Hits Back At Corporate Think Tank, Hints At 2020 Run" video.

  1. Be afraid capitalist owner class, and neoliberals. Your elitist world order isn’t safe anymore.
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  2. Ann Linley Moron Welfare isn’t Socialism. That would be a post-Capitalist, worker owned, no private property economy. Take it from me an actual Socialist. Social Democracy is just a reformist attempt at alleviating the social ills caused by Capitalism. Americans have allowed another elite class to rise and take control of their government. Wherever there is Capitalism there is an elite working with politicians to maintain a status quo of wealth and power. At least Social Welfare and labor laws help the working class. Neoliberals and conservatives only look out for Capitalists and big business because they are under the illusion that allowing wealth and capital to be concentrated in a few owner class means freedom and equality. Give me a break
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  3. usam1981 Bernie isn’t a Socialist. Neither is Social Democracy, or government subsidies. That’s just reforms to help the working class under a Capitalist system. Real Socialists would get rid of the private owner class and give control of the means of production to the workers. By all means keep showing me the failure of the American education system, that you believe Democrats to be left liberals, or progressives and Social Democrats to be Socialists lol
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  4. Ann Linley Moron Venezuela isn’t Socialist. All they did was nationalize oil and provide Social Welfare. I didn’t see workers in control of production, or collectivized industry. The majority of production is still privatized. My gosh you are uninformed. “No incentive to produce” yeah cause owning your labor and productivity, and being rewarded in full is not incentive. And if you think the State Capitalism of “communist” countries like the USSR, or China is Socialism you’re just as uneducated as I thought. Look up real Socialist societies that have existed. Like Anarcho-Syndicalist Catalonia. Worker’s owned production in syndicates or trade unions, distributed according to needs and they lived without a State government. Shame the Fascists that aided Franco made sure they were defeated. And George Orwell wrote “Homage to Catalonia” to praise the anti-Capitalist society he fought for and respected. That’s right fool, George Orwell was a true Democratic Socialist. As was Albert Einstein. Oh and remember the Pledge of Allegiance you recited in elementary school if you’re American, it was written by a Christian Socialist named Francis Bellamy. How about you think for yourself instead of accepting the outdated Cold War propaganda. Real Socialism had a history in this country before WWII and FDR’s New Deal, which was just a way to save Capitalism, not to revolutionize the economy into a Socialist one.
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  5. Ann Linley your ignorance for the value the workers have is remarkable. It’s the workers that make that Capital, and in Socialism it’s the workers who own it, not an individual that stays with the profits and leaves the workers wages not worth their productivity. Actually educate yourself before you criticize an entire socioeconomic system raised as a critique and alternative to the system of exploitation you have been brainwashed to defend.
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  6. Ann Linley You’re mistaken that a Socialist economy is anything like a Capitalist one. And about that business model, Mondragon is one of the largest corporations in Spain and it is a collectively owned enterprise. The workers run it democratically. Under worker coops, workers distribute, plan, and gain and use capital as they see fit.
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  7. Ann Linley NAFTA... a neoliberal trade agreement... as in Free Trade and classical liberal economics. Are you under the impression that neoliberalism isn’t conservative economics? It’s based on principles of free trade and classical economics. It was the policy of Reagan and Thatcher, inspired by Milton Friedman. Please keep telling us how you don’t think Capitalism is the system responsible for modern social upheaval and economic uncertainty as the wealth is concentrated towards an elite few in bed with government. Please tell us more about how nonexistent Socialist economies are ruining the world, but first you’ll have to find a country that actually is Socialist.
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  8. juanamigo No. Those are for the future when automation is taking all the jobs. As far as America I think the best thing to do now is transition to Market Socialism where worker coops replace private ownership. First thing we have to break concentrated wealth and power of the private owner class. This country can be a leading force of leftist economics. And I don’t see profit motivation, or commodity production ending soon cause the globe would have to get rid of that system, not just one nation. However there are many viable Socialist economies to look into that’ll fit the United States. One way or another we must address the Capitalist issue.
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  9. Ann Linley if you’re afraid of corporations taking their jobs overseas because they’re too greedy to pay some taxes that could be used for the benefit of society, then how about you let yourself be further exploited and take crap wages to compete with third world workers. Idiot! You’re hear defending greed and the wealthy, Capitalism is among the most unethical systems to ever disgrace this world. The Irish Famine could have been alleviated had Capitalists had a bit of generosity, but they don’t move unless there is profit and self-interest. They migrated here and got shit wage jobs to live. Keep denying the truth that Capitalism is another system of disparities creating classes where the affluent buy power and sustain wealth creating an elite class undermining liberal democracies. It’s the new Aristocracy. Only difference is now it’s just your wealth not family line that is valued. Anyone who isn’t interested in dismantling and decentralizing concentrated wealth, power, and prestige has failed the ideals of liberalism.
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