Comments by "BlackFlagsNRoses" (@blackflagsnroses6013) on "Tucker Carlson Goes On One Of The Dumbest Rants Ever" video.

  1. Conservatives always on the wrong side of history. They don’t even realize that if segregation were still a thing they’d be defending it, or slavery for that matter. Why should conservatism be taken seriously? Especially social conservatism.
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  2.  @chrisraczak6931  the Southern Democratic Party. In the South Democrats and Republicans supported segregation. In the North Republicans and Democrats supported more progressive stances and Civil Rights. Democrats created the civil rights legislation. It is modern Republicans who wave Confederate symbols and defend confederate statues. Odd Republicans would support the opposition to Lincoln and the Union. The party ideologies shifted. Lincoln’s Party was the party of Yankees, urbanity, and modernity.
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  3.  @FootballFanFlyingSaucer  they aren’t. Modern Democrats come from the legacy of Federalists- Whigs- Lincoln Republicans- Modern social liberal Democrats. The political tradition of Northern and urbane States. They aren’t really liberal in the classical sense. They are neoliberal and favor welfare state as a solution to modern capitalism. Modern Democrats are traditionalist conservatives, not social conservatives. They conserve the political institutions and infrastructure, they are incrementalists and favor Reagan Chicago School neoliberalism. Traditionalist conservatives in America have a pretty decent history of incremental progress when they feel it necessary. Social conservatives however are religious illiberal fanatics. But neither modern Democrats nor Republicans represent classical liberalism and republicanism. They represent wealth monopolies, are against a free market, and they are neoconservative in foreign affairs.
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  4.  @FootballFanFlyingSaucer  Lincoln’s party came from Hamiltonian American School of Economics. Meaning they were anti-free trade and for nationalist economics. This is not a stance I agree with, but Lincoln held illiberal economic views on foreign trade. He did however hold classical liberal views on labor and capital. The International Workingmen Association and Marxists therein supported Lincoln, and Marx even wrote him a letter congratulating him on a second term and victory for the end of slavery. Lincoln held proper views on labor’s place in the republic that modern Republicans would find “socialist.” "Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." Lincoln's First Annual Message to Congress, December 3, 1861. "And, inasmuch [as] most good things are produced by labour, it follows that [all] such things of right belong to those whose labour has produced them. But it has so happened in all ages of the world, that some have laboured, and others have, without labour, enjoyed a large proportion of the fruits. This is wrong, and should not continue. To [secure] to each labourer the whole product of his labour, or as nearly as possible, is a most worthy object of any good government." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume I, "Fragments of a Tariff Discussion" (December 1, 1847). "And I am glad to know that there is a system of labor where the laborer can strike if he wants to! I would to God that such a system prevailed all over the world.” Abraham Lincoln, "Speech at Hartford, Connecticut" (March 5, 1860) "...the working men are the basis of all governments, for the plain reason that they are the most numerous..." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, "Speech to Germans at Cincinnati, Ohio" (February 12, 1861) Had Lincoln live the Republican Party may have been a John Stuart Mill-esque liberal-socialist party. After his death the wealthy financiers and capitalists took over the party and the Republican Party was the party of the robber barons.
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  5.  @FootballFanFlyingSaucer  the social conservatives of the South defended slavery. The traditionalist conservatives of the Republican Party of Lincoln favored nationalist economics and progress of modernity. They were the party of urbanity, progress, and manufacturers. Indeed Marxists supported the Republican Party. Traditionalist Conservatism isn’t social conservatism. Traditionalists concern themselves with the conserving of political institutions, and social orders which in the States, albeit inconsistently, means republicanism and liberalism. Social conservatism arose in rural southern states as conservatism of the southern way of life based in white supremacy and religiosity. Rather illiberal and antithetical to American revolutionary principles.
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  6.  @mspoints4fre123  I don’t know he self identified as a Democratic Socialist. MLK believed in a redistribution of wealth, UBI, unionization, and war on poverty through the Poor People’s Campaign.
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