Comments by "" (@AdamtheFreemason) on "What It's Like To Be A Freemason, According To Members Of The Secret Society" video.
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Dex, if you listen to the poison dwarf "Walter Mitty Shitty", he'll tell all kind of deluded BS, because he's SOURCES are bogus, sad and pathetic. Since I am a member and a officer in my lodge, I can tell you straight, and truthful.
The only secrets Freemasons hold, is what we call the MODES OF RECOGNITION, which is how we identify ourselves through the degrees, to other Masons. This is communicated through a WORD and a HANDSHAKE, that is ALL the secrets Freemasons really possess.
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Noob Saibot
Hi Noob, the immediate difference between the Scottish and York Rite is the degrees.
Every Mason must achieve the main THREE degrees, 1) Entered Apprentice, 2) Fellowcraft and finally 3) Master Mason. The difference from then on is, in Scottish Rite, you progress to 32 degrees (these are SIDE degrees, NOT higher degrees), so a 32nd degree Mason, does NOT outrank a 3rd degree Mason. In the York Rite (or here in the UK we call it the "Ancient Free and Accepted Masons" (AF&AM)), there are additional chapters to join after you have completed the third degree. These are called:
The Holy Royal Arch, Mark Masons and Knights Templar. The Holy Royal Arch and Mark Masons can be joined by anyone, of any faith, HOWEVER, you MUST be a Trinitarian Christian, in order to join the Knights Templar, no exception.
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1) Freemasons have NEVER worshiped the Anti-Christ or Satan, that is a HOAX called the "Taxil Hoax", I should know, I'm a Church of England, Christian.
2) Freemasons have NEVER done Human sacrifices, if we did, we'd NEVER get any new members.
3) Freemasons globally can come from all walks of life, lawyers, police, bus drivers, farmers, however, the discussion of "religion" and "politics" are forbidden in a Masonic lodge.
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@whoaretheyhiding798
And you can NAME these child rapists and murdering Freemasons by their names can't you, and PROVE their guilt 100% with hard evidence, because otherwise that would be SLANDER, and that could land you in a lot of trouble.
Also, saying "and people in the lower degrees don't know this until they crawl on their dirty knees to the top and find out its satanic" is a classic line from the infamous "TAXIL HOAX".
This MYTH goes back 128 years, to a time when a French first degree (beginner) Freemason called Leo Taxil (pen name), was kicked out of his lodge due to bad behavior. Wanting to get his own back on his Masonic brothers, he concocted
a whole facade that Freemasons worship Lucifer.
He told this lie to a Catholic priest (in confidence), however KNEW it would go further up the ranks, eventually reaching the POPE (Leo XIII) who wrote a book called HUMANUM GENUS ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON FREEMASONRY, which is based on Taxil's lies. .
Taxil also made a lie about a 33rd degree Mason called Albert Pike, and called him the "Grand Sovereign Pontiff" of UNIVERSAL Freemasonry, (no such rank exists, and Freemasonry is separated by "rites" and is not universal). Taxil, 14 years later (having a massed a rather large amount wealth due to book sales etc...) later CONFESSED to the hoax to a pact auditorium in Paris, which had the media and Catholics present. This went on for 14 years, when Taxil called a conference with the media and the Catholics, in which he declared his HOAX, the confession went down to hysterics from the media like a lead balloon for the Catholics, as THEY fell for it, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER.
This, even though debunked, has still tainted Freemasonry to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
A series of paragraphs about Lucifer are frequently associated with the Taxil hoax. They read:
That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?
Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods; darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive....
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
While this quotation was published by Abel Clarin de la Rive in his Woman and Child in Universal Freemasonry, it does not appear in Taxil's writings proper, though it is sourced in a footnote to Diana Vaughan, Taxil's creation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@DavidTaylor-qy7tk
Being a Freemason, makes all brothers (of all religions, and all races) EQUAL, we are to show brotherly love to members, whether they be members of your lodge, or visitors from other lodges.
The oaths, or should I say "obligation" or "solemn promise", is to merely keep the MODES OF RECOGNITION (how we identify ourselves to each other through the degrees), from non-members.
The "obligation" or "solemn promise", is to be taken by the member on the sacred book of his religion. So if a Muslim brother was to be initiated, the Quran would be used for this, if a Jewish brother was to be initiated, the Torah (or Pentateuch) would be used. If a Christian brother were to be initiated, the Holy Bible would be used (either the whole Holy Bible or just New Testament).
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@dahvynedahvynedahvyne
The ONLY "secret" that Freemason possess, are what we call the "Modes of Recognition", which is how we identify ourselves to each other through the degrees, this is presented in the form of a handshake and word, and that is it, it holds NO relevance, and NO significance outside a masonic lodge, it's not a free pass to anything, it's just how Freemasons PROVE they are a Freemason to another Freemason, that is why we are a "Society WITH Secrets", rather than a "Secret Society".
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@dahvynedahvynedahvyne
That's fine, I'll leave it there, but who's the more deceived, ME, knowing what we do, or YOU, who believe all the bull that goes around about us, from NON MEMBERS, with NO REAL foundation to the claims, just "hearsay", I wish you all the best Vina, and nice talking to you.
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@blackpink5937
Q: What exactly is Freemasonry?
A: Freemasonry is system of morality, veiled in allegory, and illustrated by symbols. It is based off the building of King Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem.
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Q: What do you people do?
A: The rituals we perform are based on the medieval stonemason guilds, but as we are "speculative" and NOT operative masons, we spiritualize the tools of stonemasons, and add them personally to our morals, to become better men, and people of society.
Q: How does it differ itself from other religion?
A: Freemasonry is NOT a religion, nor is it a substitute for religion, all it asks of its members is the belief in a "Supreme Being" (God) however you see Him, I am a Christian, so are my brothers in the lodge. Freemasonry is a SUPPORTER of religion NOT a substitute for it.
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Q: What are the beliefs of Freemasons?
A: There is NO doctrine in Freemasonry, the basis of Freemasonry is the building of King Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. The "god" of a Freemason, is the god of the religion he professes.
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@Islamis4all
Hey Abu, did you know, that according to the Holy Bible, SATAN, is known as "Son of the morning"
and even in some translations of the Quran known as "Lord of the Dawn:
Quran 113:1 - Lord of the Dawn - The Wise Quran, Dr Sahib Mustaqum Bieher (IDCI).
Quran 113:1 - Lord of the Dawn - The Holy Quran, Abdullah Yusuf Ali (IDCI)
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Isaiah 14:12 (KJV) - “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
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* In some Holy Bible translations, Lucifer is known as "SON OF THE DAWN"
(see also...BSB, ISV, NET, NHEB, GWT, NAS, WEB, YLT.)
SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/14-12.htm
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Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, Book of Prayers, Hadith 1774
'Uqba b. 'Amir reported Allah's Messenger as saying: What wonderful verses have been sent down today. the like of which has never been seen! They are:" Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of the dawn,"
Classification: Sahih (Authentic),
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Sunan Abi Dawood, Vol. 2, Book of Prayer (Detailed Injunctions about Witr), Hadith 1457
Narrated Uqbah ibn Amir: I was driving the she-camel of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ during a journey. He said
to me: Uqbah, should I not teach you two best surahs ever recited? He then taught me: "Say, I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn,"...Classification: Sahih (Authentic),
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Muslims ordered to pray to Allah in the MORNING (Dawn).
Quran 19:11, 30:18, 33:42, 48:9, 50:39, 76:25
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And just so you know, the one true living God, YHWH, God of Israel, does NO EVIL:
Psalms 5:4 - “For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.”
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1 Timothy 4:1 - “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,
giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;”
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@MOHAMMED MAHIR LABEEB SAHL ABDULLAH
1) Freemasons do NOT want to take over the world, Freemasons are average Joe's, with average jobs such as farmers, estate agents, bus drivers etc..., Freemasonry is one of the best fraternities where brothers can come together from all religions are share, brotherly love, relief and truth.
Its the "ILLUMINATI" who claim to be "global influencers" and whom Freemasonry has NO ASSOCIATION with what so ever.
2) The "Freemasons worship Satan", quote, comes from a 130 year old HOAX called the TAXIL HOAX, which has tainted Freemasonry ever since. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax )
I'm a Christian, and so are my brothers in the lodge. Even the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Geoffrey Fisher, head of the Church of England, and global Anglican Church, was a Freemason, he held the rank of Grand Chaplain, in the United Grand Lodge of England:
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about-freemasonry/famous-masons (RELIGION)
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Sam, seems your mistaking the single word "CRAFT" with the word "witchCRAFT", since the basis of Freemasonry is the building of King Solomon's Temple, in the Holy City of Jerusalem, the CRAFT that relates to Freemasonry, means SKILL (skill in cutting stones into bricks for building).
I suggest next time you pass a sign that says "Craft Fair, this way", run for the hills, I hear, the witches and wizards have a big garage sale, and get rid of their old brooms, and cauldrons, and spell books, and get the GTi models with go faster stripes, instead.
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@dixersdc3963
OK, I wouldn't try NOT to bore you to death with too much detail, so you'll have to be specific in any questions you want to ask me afterwards.
1) Freemasonry is based on the building of King Solomon's temple, in the holy city of Jerusalem.
2) The TOOLS of the ancient stonemasons are very symbolic when it comes to Freemasonry.
3) Freemasonry has three degrees Entered Apprentice (beginner), Fellow-Craft (intermediate) and Master Mason (expert).
4) There are TWO major governing bodies of Freemasonry in the world, the U.G.L.E (United Grand Lodge of England) and the Supreme Council (North and South Jurisdiction USA).
5) There are two major "RITES" in Freemasonry, The Ancient Free and Accepted Masons (AF&AM) under U.G.L.E. (of which I am) this rite is also called the YORK rite in the USA, and the Ancient and Accepted Rite (aka Scottish Rite in the USA)
6) There are six officers in a lodge: (principle officers) Master, Senior Warden, Junior Warden, (Junior offices) Senior Deacon, Junior Deacon, Inner Guard.
7) The aprons denote RANK: plain white = Entered Apprentice, plain white with two rosettes = Fellow-Craft, plain white with blue border with three rosettes = Master Mason, plain white with blue border with three tau's (T's) = Current Master or past Master.
8) In the UK, all county lodges are controlled by a Provincial Grand Lodge, that in turn is controlled by the U.G.L.E.
9) All new initiates have to be: 21 Years old, believe in God, and have a good report (record).
10) Freemasons have been accused of "worshipping the Devil", this is a fallacy, this is known as the "Taxil Hoax" which started back in 1890, and has tainted Freemasonry ever since.
That's all I can think of at present, if there are any questions on what I have said, or any questions not covered here, please ask.
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@dixersdc3963
Freemasons don't class themselves as a "Secret Society", rather a "Society with Secrets", these secrets are merely what we call the "modes of recognition", which refers to the three degrees, and the "handshakes and passwords" attached to those degrees. As I said before, the aprons denote "rank", and as such each mason should (if asked) know the appropriate handshake and password to the degree he is currently in. Freemason's also wear "collars", on the end of these are what we call "jewels" (not precious jewels, but rather metal symbols, symbolic of a position held), this also tells fellow masons whether you are an officer of the lodge or not.
I'm a British, Third Degree Master Mason, of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons (AF&AM) under U.G.L.E.
A typical lodge layout looks like this (link below)
http://www.abbotshalllodge.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/fm2.jpg
If your husband likes history, then Freemasonry is drenched in history. Since the basis of Freemasonry is the building of King Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem.
If you'd like to learn about British Freemasonry, which was actually the first Freemasonry established globally in 1717, then visit the U.G.L.E. website, this is all public domain information.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about-freemasonry/frequently-asked-questions
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about-freemasonry/famous-masons
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/whos-who
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/book-of-constitutions
https://www.ugle.org.uk/freemasons-hall/the-history-of-freemasons-hall
https://www.ugle.org.uk/freemasons-hall/exhibitions-and-special-events
https://www.ugle.org.uk/freemasons-hall/tours
https://www.ugle.org.uk/giving
https://www.ugle.org.uk/library-museum/current-exhibition
https://www.ugle.org.uk/news-events/freemasonry-today
https://www.ugle.org.uk/news-events/freemasons-hall-diary
https://www.ugle.org.uk/inside-the-freemasons
https://www.ugle.org.uk/contact-us
There is also the Scottish Rite websites (North and South jurisdiction) based in the USA.
https://scottishrite.org/about/history/
https://scottishritenmj.org/
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@flyeaglesfly686
I have Pike's "Moral & Dogma" book (if only the Kessenger reprint version), and I have found numerous verses to the contrary. The only two verses that people continue to use in "M&D" is the so-called "deception" paragraph, and the "Lucifer the Lightbearer" paragraph (I don't know the immediate pages to hand). These (when looked at properly) tell a different story to how people (non-masons) are interpreting it. Like Pike says in one of his quotes, "conceited interpreters" (of Freemasonry). Also, Aleister Crowley was NOT a official Freemason. He joined an clandestine rite of Freemasonry called the Ancient and Primitive Rite, run by John Yarker, which in itself was a branch of the equally clandestine rite of Memphis and Misraim, which is based off "Egyptian" ideology. Crowley joined the Anglo-Saxon Lodge #343, in Paris. This is confirmed in his book "The confessions of Alester Crowley". Freemasonry is a FRATERNITY from the Latin word "frater" meaning "BROTHER", hence a BROTHERHOOD. The word "cult" refers to "religion", which, along with "politics", is forbidden in a Masonic Lodge. I think I'd be thrown out if I wore a "clown suit", the regalia I wear is a black suit, white shirt, black tie or provincial tie, black shoes then my white gloves and my Masonic apron, see picture:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzOQZXrl5et/
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@davidmorgan8612
I only mention the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Geoffrey Fisher, he's a bit more than "someone in some church", he's the head of the Church of England, and global Anglican Church.
FYI, and the international Anglican Communion, forms the third-largest Christian communion in the world, after the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church, you need to do your research at bit more Dave, what denomination are you from, the lesser unknown doctrines of Christianity, established in the 1980's, LOL.
Also, your a LATCH-ON Dave, the "Freemasons worship the devil" was debunked 14 months after it started in 1890's, by its creator, Leo Taxil. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax )
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@vcrossCelticfc
Just so you know my friend, its estimated that 80% of global Freemasons (that out of 6 million), are actually Protestant Christians, I am a Church of England, Christian Freemason.
As for " committing blasphemy towards Christianity", this would be seen as VERY unacceptable especially since a majority of members are Christian's (all my brethren are Christian in my lodge), depending on the severity, the accused member may even by suspended or even kicked out of the fraternity, for "bring Freemasonry into disrepute" - U.G.L.E., Book of Constitutions.
I have not heard of this person you speak of, maybe send a link to the channel.
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@user-cr4mi3nf9d
York Rite is the same as "Ancient Free and Accepted Masons (AF&AM)", which is what I am, here in the UK, under the United Grand Lodge of England, which started in 1717. The York Rite or AF&AM have only FOUR chapters to it, Blue Lodge (or Craft as we call it in the UK which consist of the first three degrees, Entered Apprentice, Fellow-craft and Master Mason), Holy Royal Arch, Mark Masons and the Knights Templar.
The Scottish Rite, started in the USA around 1801, in Charleston, and has 33 degrees, these include the first three degrees of the Blue Lodge, then from 4 - 32, and reached quite quickly, and the 33rd only been reached by a select few, thus being more of an administrative degree, than a ritual one.
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@32davkav
This is hilarious, WHY do you think you need to be a "33rd" to have knowledge.
FYI, the 33 degrees are ONLY relevant to the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, I'm a third degree Master Mason, of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons (what Scottish Rite masons calls YORK RITE), under the United Grand Lodge of England. Also FYI, the 4th-32nd degrees are classed as SIDE degrees NOT higher degrees, so a 32-33 does NOT outrank a 3rd, also the 33rd degree is more "Administrative" than ritual based degree, and is given to exceptional 32nd degree masons for their contribution to Masonry and the community, most US Scottish Rite Mason reach the 32nd degree very quickly by default anyway.
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@calebhaugh1894
I didn't know Matt Groening, was a Freemason, not that it matters, a lot of stuff that Notradamus predicted came true, or what people think Notradamus was predicting came true (i.e. 9/11, WW3). There are prophesies in the Holy Bible too, so what, predictions can be interpreted in numerous ways, such as: is it DATED (the specific day something will happen), to WHOM (did it happen to the exact person it was predicted to happen to, or someone else), is it SPECIFIC (is the prediction and actual place and time or is it just coincidental), all these are criteria to determine a "prediction", I don't think The Simpsons predicted anything that couldn't be found in an NON-masonic source.
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@themajesticstick5262
You wouldn't know an "occult" symbol if it was labeled "occult symbol".
So come on then, list all the "occult" symbols and their meanings then, smart arse.
Also, idiot, the Holy Bible actually says you can't serve God and Mammon, which means "MONEY".
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mammon
Mammon
noun [ U ] literary UK /ˈmæm.ən/ US /ˈmæm.ən/
the force that makes people try to become as rich as possible and the belief that this is the most important thing in life
https://biblehub.com/matthew/6-24.htm
New International Version
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
New Living Translation
“No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and be enslaved to money.
English Standard Version
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Berean Study Bible
No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Berean Literal Bible
No one is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and he will love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and he will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and mammon.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
New King James Version
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
King James Bible
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Christian Standard Bible
"No one can serve two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Contemporary English Version
You cannot be the slave of two masters! You will like one more than the other or be more loyal to one than the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Good News Translation
"You cannot be a slave of two masters; you will hate one and love the other; you will be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
"No one can be a slave of two masters, since either he will hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot be slaves of God and of money.
International Standard Version
"No one can serve two masters, because either he will hate one and love the other, or be loyal to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and riches!"
NET Bible
"No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
New Heart English Bible
"No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Mammon.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
No man can work for two masters, for either he will hate one and will love the other, or he will honor one and the other he will ignore. You cannot work for God and for money.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
"No one can serve two masters. He will hate the first master and love the second, or he will be devoted to the first and despise the second. You cannot serve God and wealth.
New American Standard 1977
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Jubilee Bible 2000
No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches.
King James 2000 Bible
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
American King James Version
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
American Standard Version
No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Douay-Rheims Bible
No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
Darby Bible Translation
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and will love the other, or he will hold to the one and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
English Revised Version
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Webster's Bible Translation
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Weymouth New Testament
"No man can be the bondservant of two masters; for either he will dislike one and like the other, or he will attach himself to one and think slightingly of the other. You cannot be the bondservants both of God and of gold.
World English Bible
"No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You can't serve both God and Mammon.
Young's Literal Translation
'None is able to serve two lords, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to the one, and despise the other; ye are not able to serve God and Mammon.
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Q:But what do you do?
A: Freemasonry is a fraternity of men brought together with similar interests. The basis of Freemasonry is the building of King Solomon's Temple in the Holy city of Jerusalem.
Q:What to you discuss.?
A: In meetings, we usually discuss the Lodge upkeep (Building insurance, gas, electricity, council tax, maintenance etc...), minutes of the last lodge meeting, minutes of the last management meeting, yearly member subscriptions, members masonic donations, propositions, news and lectures (now and again).
Q: Who do you help, How do you help them?
A: Freemasonry is one of the largest charitable givers in the country, contributing £42m to deserving causes in 2019 alone. Freemasons do not only donate money – more than 18.5 million hours of volunteer work was undertaken by Freemasons in 2018. ( https://www.ugle.org.uk/charity )
Q: Why no women?
A: Freemasonry is a FRATERNITY, from the Latin word "frater" meaning BROTHER, hence a BROTHERHOOD. There is however, Masonic fraternities that DO accept women, these are:
O.E.S. = The Order of the Eastern Star.
O.W.F = The Order of Women Freemasons. ( https://www.owf.org.uk/ )
HFAF = HONOURABLE FRATERNITY OF ANCIENT FREEMASONS
(Freemasonry for Women)
https://hfaf.org/
Q: What is your purpose? 🧐
A:
One of the oldest social and charitable organisations in the world, the roots of modern Freemasonry lie with the medieval stonemasons that built our castles and cathedrals, yet it is as relevant today as it was hundreds of years ago.
Freemasons use four important guiding principles to help define their path through life: Integrity, Friendship, Respect and Charity.
Membership is open to people from all backgrounds and the organisation’s aim is to empower members to be the best they can be – it’s about building character, supporting members as individuals and helping them make a positive contribution to society.
Freemasonry provides a structure for members to come together under these common goals, enabling people to make new friendships, develop themselves and make valuable contributions to charitable causes. We are one of the largest charitable givers in the country, contributing £42 million to deserving causes in 2019.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/
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Perhaps people SHOULDN'T believe conceited interpreters of Freemasonry, like YOU Gordon.
The "oaths" or "obligation", is to keep the "Modes of Recognition" (how we identify ourselves to each other through the degrees) from non-members, the penalties are merely symbolic, based on three ruffians, who killed the Chief Architect of King Solomon's Temple, Hiram Abiff, because he (Hiram) wouldn't disclose the "secret password" of a Master Mason, the penalties are what they incurred by King Solomon, for their heinous act, on their master.
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@annied9864
Oh Annie, why do I need to do "research", I've been a member now for over 9 years, I'm only two years off being the Master of that lodge, and as for "research", I think it's YOU who need to read educational books such as "Idiots Guide to Freemasonry" or "Freemasonry for Dummies", because the ones you are reading, and the websites you are visiting, are by NON-MEMBERS, who only speculate what happens in a masonic lodge, and they themselves are regurgitating crap from another NON-MEMBER, and the chain goes on, and on, until the ORIGINAL moron is found, who started this crock, and lo and behold, he is a NON-MEMBER, I could go on Annie, but I think you'll just disregard these wise words from an actual ACTIVE MEMBER, and carry on listening to NON-MEMBER mis-information BULLSHIT, and think it's the truth.
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@Judaism_Terror
My friend, I'm a Christian, and its estimated that 80% of global Freemasons are Protestant Christian's as well, the "Freemasons worship Satan" tag, is, and was, a HOAX, it was called the TAXIL HOAX, which started in the 1890's, it was DEBUNKED 14 months later, by its creator, Leo Taxil, who claimed to was just a big "JOKE, here, look at the website, with sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@Judaism_Terror
What's with the "subliminal" garbage, I think you believe too much of what you see on the internet and TV. There is NO RANK lower than a THIRD DEGREE, even in the USA, the 33 degrees are classed as SIDE DEGREES, so a 33rd does NOT outrank a 3rd. Like the army, or any other organisation, there are OFFICERS within Freemasonry, I am a Senior Deacon, which means, I am only three years off being the master of that lodge. After being the master for so many years, you get what's called PROVINCIAL honours, which means your collar turns from being bright blue, to dark blue, and also your apron changes the same, so if you watch the video above, some masons have a bright blue collar and apron, and some have a dark blue apron, that is the difference. If your really lucky, and you put the time and effort in, you may even achieve GRAND RANK, from the United Grand Lodge of England, which is the highest UK Freemasonry ranks you can get.
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We don't take a "vow of silence", we take a "obligation" or "solemn promise" to keep the MODES OF RECOGNITION (how we identify each other through the degrees), from non-members, and last time I look, NASA confirmed that the Earth was a GLOBE, hence ROUND, and not a flat carpet, like all baseless morons think, and what drugs you on Christina, " "There is no space, and we live under a diamond ''dome'', really Christina, really, LOL.
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@matlabatt
So we have a "secret handshake", so frigging what, big deal, would you believe it is ONLY used as a mode of recognition between degrees, so masons can give certain recognition to another mason to prove his has reached that degree by using these handshakes and words in a particular manner, this proves he is is NOT an intruder or evesdropper. As for the "death threats" these are merely symbolic penalties of the degree, and are used as a recognition of three ruffians that killed the chief architect of King Solomon's Temple, Hiram Abiff, wanting to know this secret word of a Master Mason, these "salutes" as they are called to us, symbolize the punishment THEY asked King Solomon to administer to them, as retribution for their crime.
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NO, that is what they were "accused" of by the Pope and the King, its funny, the Grand Master, Jacques De Molay, whilst he was being burned at the stake, asked God to punish the lying Pope and King, lo and behold, they both died not long after, and not far apart, ironic really isn't it, seems God KNEW who was telling the truth.
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@Hayanomie
When God spoke to Moses he said:
“Ye shall make you no IDOLS nor GRAVEN IMAGES, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set
up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land, to BOW DOWN unto it: for I am the LORD your God.”
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1) The Kaaba is a IDOL because it is OBJECT prayed to as part of QIBLAH (dmeaning "direction of prayer").
Quran 2:144 - We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know
that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.
Quran 2:145 - And if you brought to those who were given the Scripture every sign, they would not follow your
qiblah. Nor will you be a follower of their qiblah. Nor would they be followers of one another's qiblah.
Quran 2:148 - For each [religious following] is a direction toward which it faces.
Quran 2:149 - So from wherever you go out [for prayer, O Muhammad] turn your face toward al- Masjid al-Haram, and indeed, it is the truth from your Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what you do.
Quran 2:150 - And from wherever you go out [for prayer], turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever
you [believers] may be, turn your faces toward it...
FACT: word "IDOL" - a picture or OBJECT that people PRAY TO as part of their religion:
SOURCE: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/idol
SOURCE: word "OBJECT" a thing that you can see or touch but that is NOT usually a living animal, plant, or person:
SOURCE: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/object
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 6, Book of Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an, Hadith 13
Narrated Al-Bara:
The Prophet prayed facing Bait-ul Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) for sixteen or seventeen months but he wished that his
Qibla would be the Ka'ba (at Mecca). (So Allah Revealed (2.144) and he offered 'Asr prayers(in his Mosque facing Ka'ba at Mecca) SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/60/13
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 6, Book of Prophetic Commentary on the Qur'an, Hadith 18
Narrated Ibn Umar:
While some people were offering Fajr prayer at Quba' (mosque), some-one came to them and said, "Tonight some Qur'anic Verses have been revealed to the Prophet and he has been ordered to face the Ka'ba (at Mecca) (during prayers), so you too should turn your faces towards it." At that time their faces were towards Sham (Jerusalem)
so they turned towards the Ka'ba (at Mecca). SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/60/18
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book of Belief, Hadith 39
Narrated Al-Bara' (bin 'Azib):
When the Prophet came to Medina, he stayed first with his grandfathers or maternal uncles from Ansar. He offered his prayers facing Baitul-Maqdis (Jerusalem) for sixteen or seventeen months, but he wished that he could pray facing the Ka'ba (at Mecca). The first prayer which he offered facing the Ka'ba was the 'Asr prayer in the company of some people. Then one of those who had offered that prayer with him came out and passed by some people in a mosque who were bowing during their prayers (facing Jerusalem). He said addressing them, "By Allah, I testify that I have prayed with Allah's Apostle facing Mecca (Ka'ba).' Hearing that, those people changed their direction towards the Ka'ba immediately. Jews and the people of the scriptures used to be pleased to see the Prophet facing Jerusalem in
prayers but when he changed his direction towards the Ka'ba, during the prayers, they disapproved of it. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/2/39
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 3, Book of Hiring, Hadith 464
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet and Abu Bakr employed a (pagan) man from the tribe of Bani Ad-Dail and the tribe of Bani 'Abu bin 'Adi
as a guide. He was an expert guide and he broke the oath contract which he had to abide by with the tribe of Al-'Asi bin Wail and he was on the religion of Quraish pagans. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/36/464
Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Vol. 6, Book of Al-Manaqib (Virtues), Hadith 3605
Narrated Wathilah bin Al-Asqa':
that the Messenger of Allah said: "Indeed Allah has chosen Isma'il from the children of Ibrahim, and He chose Banu Kinanah from the children of Isma'il, and He chose the Quraish from Banu Kinanah, and He chose Banu Hashim from Quraish, and He chose me from Banu Hashim." SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/tirmidhi/48/3605
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2) The Kaaba is a GRAVEN IMAGE, because it is made of STONE and is used in religious worship.
FACT: The word "GRAVEN IMAGE" - an OBJECT made especially from wood, STONE, etc. and used for religious worship.
SOURCE: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/graven-image
SOURCE: Quran 2:144, 2:145, 2:148, 2:149, 2:150 [see above]
Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Vol. 2, Book of Hajj, Hadith 874
Ibn Umar narrated from Bilal:
"The Prophet performed Salat in the interior of the Ka'bah." And Ibn Abbas said: "He did not perform Salat in it,
but he said the Takbir." SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/tirmidhi/9/874
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, Book of Pilgrimage (Hajj), Hadith 682
Narrated Ibn Abbas
The Prophet performed Tawaf of the Ka'ba riding a camel, and every time he came in front of the Corner (having the Black Stone), he pointed towards it with something he had with him and said Takbir.
SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/26/682
Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Vol. 2, Book of Hajj, Hadith 865
Ibn Abbas narrated:
"The Prophet performed Tawaf upon his mount, so when he arrived at the (Black Stone) corner, he pointed to it."
SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/tirmidhi/9/865
Sunan Abi Dawood, Vol. 2, Book of The Rites of Hajj, Hadith 1884
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
The Prophet wore the mantle under his right armpit with the end over his left shoulder, and touched the corner
(Black Stone), then uttered "Allah is most great" and walked proudly in three circuits of circumambulation. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/abudawood/11/1884
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book of Divorce, Hadith 215
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
Allah's Apostle performed the Tawaf around the Ka'ba while riding his camel, and every time he reached the corner
(of the Black Stone) he pointed at it with his hand and said, "Allahu Akbar."
SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/63/215
Muwatta Imam Malik, Book of Hajj, Hadith 113
Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that when the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had finished his tawaf of the House, prayed two rakas, and wanted to go to Safa and Marwa, he would salute the corner of the Black Stone before he left. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/malik/20/113
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3) The Kaaba is a "IMAGE OF STONE", because it is seen as the "House of Allah", and is circumbamulated (tawaf)
during Hajj and Umrah.
FACT: The word "IMAGE" - (MENTAL PICTURE): a picture in your mind or an idea of how someone or something is:
SOURCE: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/image
SOURCE: Quran 5:97 - Allah has made the Ka'bah, the Sacred House,...
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Your Comment:
So, when you point at the stone or Kaabah (symbolically, the house of God on earth and supposedly sits directly below heaven.) and declare Allahu Akbar, you are quite literally saying no earthly material is greater than Allah. How, then, can you call this worship of an image or idol?
My Reply:
The word "tawaf" means "DEVOTION, and according to numerous hadiths (Sahih), Pre-Islamic Arabs used to "WORSHIP STONES"
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book of One-fifth of Booty, Hadith 386
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya:
...The other asked, "Who are you?" Al-Mughira replied, "We are some people from the Arabs;
we led a hard, miserable, disastrous life: we used to suck the hides and the date stones from hunger;
we used to wear clothes made up of fur of camels and hair of goats, and used to worship trees and stones. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/53/386
Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 5, Book of Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (Maghaazi), Hadith 661
Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep
and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/59/661
Sahih Muslim, Vol. 1, Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman), Hadith 352
Let every people follow what they used to worship. Then all who worshipped idols and stones... SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/muslim/1/352
Tawaf is an act of spiritual devotion...
SOURCE: http://www.umrahservices.in/blog/tawaf/
The following supplication may also be read at the beginning of Tawaf or when you’re kissing, touching or saluting
the Hajar al-Aswad for the first time:
سْمِ اللَّهِ وَاللّٰهُ أَكْبَرُ، اللَّهُمَّ إِيْمَاناً بِكَ وَتَصْدِيْقاً بِكِتَابِكَ، وَوَفَاءً بِعَهْدِكَ، وَاتِّبَاعاً لِسُنَّةِ نَبِيِّكَ مُحَمَّدْ
In the name of Allah, Allah is the greatest. O Allah, out of faith in You, conviction in Your book, in fulfilment of Your covenant and in emulation of Your Prophet’s Sunnah .
SOURCE: https://hajjumrahplanner.com/tawaf/
Your Comment:
Specifically, recall that Islam prohibits images of God, prophets, etc. whereas Christianity is rife with depictions of holy figures.
My Reply: Only CATHOLIC churches have idols of Christ and Mary, all other denominations just use the Crucifix (the Cross).
Your Comment:
you're using a symbol to cross examine the faith and belief system. That we pray 5 times a day towards a holy site does not negate the fact that we believe in and worship one creator.
My Reply:
Your QIBLAH is directed to the Masjid al-Haram, and particular the Kaaba, this is IDOL WORSHIP, you also revere the Black Stone, this is STONE WORSHIP, even former Muslim Ali Sina confirms it.
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No, you are not worshiping your rug, HOWEVER, by POINTING at something and calling it God, or saying "Allahu Akbar", you are associating something to God, which is done during the Hajj and the Ummrah. For example, your name is Hayan, if I POINT to you and say "Hayan is god", then I am calling you a god, because I specifically pointed to you and said "Hayan is god".
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/point
point
verb
UK /pɔɪnt/ US /pɔɪnt/
point verb (IN PARTICULAR DIRECTION)
A2 [ I ]
to direct other people's attention to something by holding out your finger towards
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1) By POINTING at something and saying "God is great", you are implying that, that thing is God, this is SHIRK, because you are associating something to God.
2) Pre-Islamic Arabs worshiped stones, before Islam, so this concept is NOT unnatural to Arabs.
3) The Quraysh used to do tawaf of the Kaaba when Muhammad was a young boy PRE-prophet.
4) The Kaaba fulfills all criteria for being an IDOL itself, even though it held 360 idols itself.
5) The Black Stone fulfills criteria for being worshiped and revered, this is STONE worship.
6) The word "TAWAF" means DEVOTION, whether it be devotion to the Kaaba or Black Stone.
7) There is NO EVIDENCE that Abraham or Ishmael EVER went to Mecca, and if they did, it would been a desert, and not occupied until around the 2nd century (that's about 2200 years), by Yemeni immigrants.
8) According to the Holy Bible, God resides in ZION (Jerusalem), and not pagan Mecca.
9) You say that the "Black Stone is not mentioned in the Quran", VERY TRUE, however, the Shadada is NOT mentioned in the Quran, the Five Pillars of Islam are NOT mentioned in the Quran, Muhammad's "excellent example" is NOT mentioned in the Quran, the Five daily prayers are NOT mentioned in the Quran, the amount of times your to circumbamulate the Kaaba is NOT in the Quran, the sunnah is NOT mentioned in the Quran, the Hadiths are NOT mentioned in the Quran.
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@takomora
What you found, is someone claiming to be a "EX-Master Mason", confessing to the goings on inside a Masonic lodge. What I found, as a current member, of over seven years, and a officer in my lodge, over 40 errors in his logic, which include KNOWN myths and fallacies surrounding Freemasonry.
You say "...a true Muslim can never be a Freemason...", thing is you are WRONG, I'm a Christian, and I'm a Freemason. Contrary to belief, Freemasonry has NEVER been Satanic, EVER. The sources people use is called the TAXIL HOAX in 1890, which was debunked 14 months after it started, by its original creator, Leo Taxil, who admitted the HOAX to a packed auditorium in Paris, France.
Also, Freemasons aren't TRAPPED, you can resign from the order anytime you like, just STOP paying the subscription and STOP going to the meetings, just tell the secretary of the lodge that you no longer wish to be a member.
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You say: Maybe you might not reached the levels to get to their secret box, but the game isn't that complicated to understand, there's a cruel war against religions and especially Islam, through the Medias, Arts and everything, in the same time a highly invested company to promote Freemasonry and the Devil, the empty brain singers know nothing and look for nothing apart of money, politicians look for power, that's how it works, when you are a Freemason Israel is your cause, Satanism is your cause directly of indirectly, you recruit people of influence who are supposed to serve Freemasonry and in the counterpart they make all sorts of benefits.
My Reply: Your Imam's really feed you a load of bullshit you just lap up don't you.
1) "Higher Level" Freemasonry which are quoting comes from the TAXIL HOAX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
2) Freemasonry is a SUPPORTER of religion, and demands and expects its members to continue with their religious duties.
3) The only "WAR" out there, is the one that Islam wages against everyone, and everything. Look at the statistics, Islam, is the largest cause of death, since its creation in the 6th century.
https://www.statista.com/topics/2267/terrorism/
4) In order to join Freemasonry, you have to agree that you get NO "material gain" from it.
5) Any SATANISM ever confirmed, is the Satanic Verses that Muhammad recited, as well as the numerous commandments he broke as a FALSE prophet.
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May the mighty, Most High, one true God, JEHOVAH (YHWH), God of Israel, God of the Jews and Christian's, MY GOD, punish and destroy the false pagan moon god "Allah", of the Kaaba, and punish the Satanic Verse Reciter Muhammad, Satan's messenger, and restore TRUE FAITH in Him alone, the ONLY TRUE LIVING GOD, who dwells in Zion (Jerusalem), and NOT in pagan Mecca.
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@Inspired by Shaykh Ahmed Deedat pbuh
This proves NOTHING, why would God, move His direction of prayer from Zion, which is where He dwells, to pagan Mecca especially the Kaaba, where the 360 idols once stood, that would counter one of God own commandments, "There are no other gods, other than me".
Psalms 9:11
“Sing praises to the LORD, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.”
Psalms 50:2
“Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.”
Psalms 76:2
“In Salem also is his tabernacle, and his dwelling place in Zion.”
Psalms 84:7
“They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God.”
Psalms 99:2
“The LORD is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people.”
Psalms 102:16
“When the LORD shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory.”
Psalms 102:21
“To declare the name of the LORD in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;”
Psalms 125:1
“(A Song of degrees.) They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.”
Psalms 132:13
“For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.”
Psalms 135:21
“Blessed be the LORD out of Zion, which dwelleth at Jerusalem. Praise ye the LORD.”
Psalms 146:10
“The LORD shall reign for ever, even thy God, O Zion, unto all generations. Praise ye the LORD.”
Psalms 147:12
“Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion.”
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1) There are NO "Grand Masters" in lodges, there are just Worshipful Masters, there are "Provincial Grand Masters" which rule the provinces (or county in the UK), but they in turn are governed by the Grand Master who is in HQ in London.
2) Freemasonry is NOT Satanic, and is NOT a "secret service", its a "Society with secrets", and the "Satan" tag comes from a 128 year old hoax called the "Taxil Hoax" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
3) The "All Seeing Eye" is NOT Satan, it is called the Eye of Providence or Divine Providence and is suppose to represent God looking over mankind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
4) Any person can join REGARDLESS of "money and power", as long as you can pay the membership fees and contribute to the charitable funds, your in.
5) Only Prince Philip is a Freemason in the immediate royal family, but the Duke of Kent is actually Grand Master of United Grand Lodge of England https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/whos-who
6) If people are being "deceived" then how come, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Geoffrey Fisher joined and held the rank of Grand Chaplain in the United Grand Lodge of England, as well as Sir Israel Brodie who was Chief Rabbi of Great Britain and the Commonwealth, he also held the rank of Grand Chaplain.
7) Nelson Mandela and Rev Desmond Tutu are Knights of Malta. In order for you to be a Knights Templar, you HAVE TO be a Christian.
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Why don't you just open a BOOK from a former Freemason, and he'll tell you the secrets from "within" OR
why don't you just ASK a Freemason, what the "secrets" are, he wouldn't tell you directly, but he'll be vague about them like what I'm about to do.
The only thing secret in Freemasonry, is the way we distinguish ourselves through the degrees. There are THREE degrees, (1) Entered Apprentice, (2) Fellowcraft, (3) Master Mason, these are conveyed in the following classes: (1) Entered Apprentice - beginner (2) Fellowcraft - intermediate, (3) Master Mason - expert. For each degree there is a "password" attached and a special grip, these are given to initiates as they progress in their masonic career.
If there's any MORE questions you'd like top ask, then ask them, we are encouraged to talk about Freemasonry, to dispel the myths and fallacies surrounding it.
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@williamwalshe4131
Who are the OSS, don't you mean the O.E.S. (Order of the Eastern Star) ?
There's no "fake information", that's bull, some of the so-called "leaks" that are around, have actually turned out to be lying to the public. There was this one mason, I can't think of his name immediately, he wrote a book, and made "claims" about himself, his rank etc..., two senior masons interested by these "claims", research his so-called claims of "rank" and "seniority", and out seven claims, only TWO where true, and this was JUST about himself, before anyone even read the book, was was exposed as a liar and a deceiver, now what does that tell you about ex-masons ?
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Freemasonry or Masonry consists of fraternal organisations that trace their origins to the local fraternities of stonemasons that from the end of the 14th century regulated the qualifications of stonemasons and their interaction with authorities and clients. Freemasonry has been the subject of numerous conspiracy theories throughout the years.[1] Modern Freemasonry broadly consists of two main recognition groups:
Regular Freemasonry insists that a volume of scripture be open in a working lodge, that every member profess belief in a Supreme Being, that no women be admitted (although, in some jurisdictions, those who transition to women after being initiated may stay; see below), and that the discussion of religion and politics be banned.
Continental Freemasonry is now the general term for the jurisdictions which have removed some, or all, of these restrictions.
The basic, local organisational unit of Freemasonry is the Lodge. These private Lodges are usually supervised at the regional level (usually coterminous with either a state, province, or national border) by a Grand Lodge or Grand Orient. There is no international, worldwide Grand Lodge that supervises all of Freemasonry; each Grand Lodge is independent, and they do not necessarily recognise each other as being legitimate.
The degrees of Freemasonry retain the three grades of medieval craft guilds, those of Apprentice, Journeyman or fellow (now called Fellowcraft), and Master Mason. The candidate of these three degrees is progressively taught the meanings of the symbols of Freemasonry, and entrusted with grips, signs and words to signify to other members that he has been so initiated. The degrees are part allegorical morality play and part lecture. Three degrees are offered by Craft (or Blue Lodge) Freemasonry, and members of any of these degrees are known as Freemasons or Masons. There are additional degrees, which vary with locality and jurisdiction, and are usually administered by their own bodies (separate from those who administer the Craft degrees).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
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Sorry Ant, secret is still secret, your just another victim of the infamous TAXIL HOAX. And its a FRATERNITY, not a "cult", from the Latin word "frater" meaning BROTHER, hence a BROTHERHOOD. Also, if YOU claim its a "PAEDOPHILE" ring in some way, (1) Your speaking from experience, or (2) Your a slanderous f**king scumbag, who could get into trouble with that allegation, and NO evidence to back it up.
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"bored rich white dudes", I think not, most members are average Joe's, doing everyday jobs, farmers, bus drivers, lawyers, accountants etc...
Freemasonry is NOT a "sect", "cult" or has anything to do with the "occult", it is a FRATERNITY, from the Latin word "frater" meaning BROTHER hence its a BROTHERHOOD.
"Self Important Nerds", REALLY, I really think you ought to get out more pal.
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@TheRealist2022
Also brother, in the Book of Constitutions, under the title:
AIMS AND RELATIONSHIPS OF
THE CRAFT, Page xi
subparagraphs 6 & 7
6. While English Freemasonry thus inculcates in each of its members
the duties of loyalty and citizenship, it reserves to the individual
the right to hold his own opinion with regard to public aff airs. But
neither in any Lodge, not at any time in his capacity as a Freemason,
is he permitted to discuss or to advance his views on theological or
political questions.
7. The Grand Lodge has always consistently refused to express any
opinion on questions of foreign or domestic state policy either at home
or abroad, and it will not allow its name to be associated with any
action, however humanitarian it may appear to be, which infringes its
unalterable policy of standing aloof from every question affecting the
relations between one government and another, or between political
parties, or questions as to rival theories of government.
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@Mike-ei9ip
You are funny Mike, your calling a member of over seven years, and a officer in his lodge "IGNORANT", I've got more knowledge of Freemasonry and more books on it than you'll ever have.
This just proves how ignorant YOU are, firstly its spelt "Freemason", NOT "free mason", secondly, its a FRATERNITY not a "cult", since the discussion of "religion" and "politics" are FORBIDDEN in a Masonic lodge, hence can't be a cult, thirdly, SOME, not all, members don't progress to other chapters of Freemasonry because of work commitments, also, the meetings are different times of the week and month, which may co-inside with someones work schedule. Fourthly, Freemasonry has nothing to do with "Babylonian Mystery Religion", its to do with the building of King Solomon's Temple in the Holy city of Jerusalem. Fifthly, to say "Goal of secret societies is establishment of one world government / globalism / New world order under the control of one individual", makes me believe you've been reading too much into the Illuminati, rather than Freemasonry, because they claim to be "global influencers...". I also believe its YOU who is brainwashed, by the bullshit NON-MEMBERS post, in the form of fourth rate MIS-information, not me, LOL.
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@aishacani744
You might actually find that according to YOUR Quran, I AM to JUDGE by what God has revealed in the Gospels (New Testament), that INCLUDES, Islam as a religion AND Muhammad as a prophet.
5:47. And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has
revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah
has revealed – then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.
Islam does NOT teach tolerance to other religions, it is THE most intolerable religion EVER, and looks to subdue people and force them to pay taxes (Jizya) because they are not Muslim's.
Muslim's say they "LOVE JESUS", he is a prophet of God, blah blah...yet there is NO CHRISTIAN CHURCHES on the Saudi peninsula.
Even the Grand Mufti of Saudi, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah said "Destroy all churches in Gulf" - this is the work of the ANTICHRIST, a destroyer of churches, is a enemy of Jesus.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/destroy-all-churches-in-gulf-says-saudi-grand-mufti-450002.html
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@dixersdc3963
Since joining Freemasonry, my book collection is HUGE, I collect books from Masons, ex-Masons, anti-Masons, encyclopedia's, books on the temple in Jerusalem (King Solomon's), books on symbolism, I have two Holy Bible: Masonic Editions. Some are historical, factual, and some are damn right peculiar, specially when it comes to books from Bill Schlobelen, he's a known liar of Freemasonry.
Can I ask, where are you based, UK, USA etc..
Freemasonry is one of the BIGGEST charity contributors in the world, and ALL contributions made to these good causes come from the members own pocket.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/giving
For Freemasons, for families, for everyone
Kindness has always been a core principle of Freemasonry. Individuals give time and money to help others, whether locally, nationally or globally. It may be realising a dream for a member’s child, caring for older Freemasons, volunteering on a local community project, making donations to other UK charities or responding to an international disaster appeal.
Today we are one of the UK’s top charities raising over £33 million a year and one of its main grant-giving bodies. See below the details of our five charities.
MASONIC CHARITABLE FOUNDATION
https://mcf.org.uk/
"For Freemasons, for families, for everyone"
The Masonic Charitable Foundation builds better lives by enabling opportunity, advancing healthcare and education and promoting independence for Freemasons, their families and the wider community.
Funded entirely through the generosity of Freemasons and their families, the Masonic Charitable Foundation is one of the largest grant-making charities in the country.
A wide range of help and support is available for Freemasons, their wives, partners, widows, children and grandchildren. Most of the support provided takes the form of financial grants to assist with financial, health or family related needs.
For further information about the help and support available from the Foundation, please call their dedicated freephone enquiry line: 0800 035 60 90 or email help@mcf.org.uk
You can also write to Masonic Charitable Foundation, 60 Great Queen Street, London, WC2B 5AZ
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION
https://www.rmbi.org.uk/
The RMBI has been caring for older Freemasons and their dependants for over 160 years.
We operate 17 residential care homes across England and Wales offering high quality care. Many of our Homes are registered for both residential and nursing care and a number offer specialist dementia care. All of our Homes can offer places to people with dementia, following as assessment of their needs.
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Donna, if we told you the truth that we DON'T worship Satan, would you believe us, all the rest of what you said is deluded nonsense, which has been taken vastly out of context, because I am a Deacon in my lodge, and one of my duties was to relay the "secrets" to the new candidate, and perambulate him round the lodge to the principle officers, which includes the outfit he wears, and the situation he was in at the door of the lodge, and the secrets he has been told so far. Every mason has been through this "ritual", and is no way shape or form the way YOU describe it, sorry, but you are grossly mistaken, most likely by either, MIS-information fro NON members, or a YouTube video online by a "so-called" EX-mason, Victor Ramos, who didn't even know the basics of Freemasonry, and regurgitated KNOWN myths and fallacies surrounding it.
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What a load of deluded rubbish, you believe. Freemasonry is a FRATERNITY, which is a group of men, coming together, with the same interest. Freemasonry is based off the building of King Solomon's Temple, in the Holy city of Jerusalem. Freemasons are VERY Godly men, and in order to join, you have to believe in a "Supreme Being" (God), however you see Him. I'm a Christian, and so are my brothers in the lodge, its estimated that, 80% of global Freemasons, are Protestant Christian's, not so much Catholics, since the introduction of Canon Law 2335. Freemasonry is NOT associated to the Illuminati, in anyway shape or form, this is a idiotic, moronic opinion of people with low IQ's.
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@seehisgracedeliveranceministry
Oh, you are a classic "victim" here, LOL, I love it, just proves that people are STILL being deceived by a 130 year old HOAX even now, even though, it was DEBUNKED 14 months AFTER it started.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
The Luciferian quote
A series of paragraphs about Lucifer are frequently associated with the Taxil hoax. They read:
That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?
Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods; darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive....
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
While this quotation was published by Abel Clarin de la Rive in his Woman and Child in Universal Freemasonry, it does not appear in Taxil's writings proper, though it is sourced in a footnote to Diana Vaughan, Taxil's creation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@matlabatt
1) we don't have a "closet" at the lodge, we have STORE rooms for furniture and regalia.
2) "operate in the shadows", LOL, most modern people have a thing called "electricity", this usually lights things up, perhaps being born in a barn, you aren't privy to such basic luxuries, but the lodge room is pretty much lit up nicely, we even have new LED lights installed, epic.
3) No one on here mentioned "gay" apart from you Mat, so yes, I thing you must be a closet gay.
4) Who's "lying" about anything, you made the claim Mat, no one else brought it up, seems "gay" is on your mind a lot, perhaps your wife or boyfriend need to know this.
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@michael indigo
Its only sick puppies like you who think things like that Mike, me, like Bro The Realist, have children (FOUR to be precise) and all of different ages (15, 12, twin girls at 6), and I adore them all, and would do anything for them, and if anyone did anything to any of them, then GOD HELP THEM, I never get my hands on them.
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@yusuf-ox4io
Absolutely, the brotherhood accepts all men, of all religions, I am a Christian, so are my brothers in my lodge. We occasionally get a Hindu brother, and a Buddhist brother visit our lodge, they are greeted as any other brother. Freemasonry is a NON-secular, NON-denominational fraternity, it is NOT a religion, nor does look to be a substitute for a man's religion, it is a SUPPORTER of religion, and it expects and demands its members to continue with their religious duty to the religion they profess. Also, the discussion of "religion" and "politics" is forbidden in a masonic lodge.
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Doesn't everyday people who are NOT masons do that, why stop at just a few sh*tty masons, who haven't (obviously) become high moral standard people of our society, and by the way, if you KNOW that these so-called masons are "stealing, lying and cheating" their fellow brothers, WHY are you not doing something about it, remember, NO MASON IS ABOVE THE LAW (either law of the land, or laws set out for Freemasons, better known as the "constitutions").
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@shanestamball1886
So your a Operative Stonemason, NOT a speculative Freemason, there's a huge difference.
Most Freemasons come from ALL walks of life, bus drivers, farmers, shop keepers, Lawyers, Estate Agents, Accountants etc, etc... just because they are not brickies, doesn't make their job any more harder (either physically OR mentally) than yours, that just an ignorant, arrogance presumption.
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@TheRealist2022
Brother, Jehovah is MY God, I am a Church of England, Christian.
Freemasons DO worship God, if that was not the case then a prayer from the V.S.L. at the beginning and at the end of the meeting would NOT be necessary.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/book-of-constitutions
Page x (or Page 8 of 164)
AIMS AND RELATIONSHIPS OF
THE CRAFT
Accepted by the Grand Lodge, September 7, 1949
**************************************************
3. The first condition of admission into, and membership of, the
Order is a belief in the Supreme Being. This is essential and admits
of no compromise.
********************************************************************
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/supreme-being
the Supreme Being
noun [ S ] UK /suːˌpriːm ˈbiː.ɪŋ/ US /suːˌpriːm ˈbiː.ɪŋ/ literary
a name for God
********************************************************************
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/book-of-constitutions
Page xiv (or Page 12 of 164)
BASIC PRINCIPLES FOR
GRAND LODGE RECOGNITION
Accepted by the Grand Lodge, September 4, 1929
2. That a belief in the G.A.O.T.U. and His revealed will shall be an
essential qualification for membership.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about/book-of-constitutions
Page 143 (or Page 157 of 164)
THE CHARGES OF A
FREE-MASON ETC., ETC.
I. Concerning GOD and RELIGION
A mason is obliged, by his tenure, to obey the moral law; and if he
rightly understand the art he will never be a STUPID ATHEIST nor an
irreligious libertine.
He, of all men, should best understand that God
seeth not as man seeth;
for man looketh at the outward appearance, but God looketh to the heart.
Let a man’s religion or mode of worship be what it may, he is not excluded from
the order, provided he believe in the glorious architect of heaven and
earth, and
practice the sacred duties of morality.
Masons unite with the
virtuous of every persuasion in the firm and pleasing
bond of fraternal love; they are taught to view the errors of mankind with compassion,
and to strive, by the purity of their own conduct, to demonstrate the
superior excellence of the faith they may profess.
Thus masonry is
the centre of union between good men and true, and
the happy means of conciliating friendship amongst those who must
otherwise have remained at a perpetual distance.
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Its actually "self-improvement", making GOOD men BETTER. Freemasonry isn't a charity, although it is CHARITABLE. Most of the members of Freemasonry are average-Joes, accountants, bus drivers, farmers, shop workers, teachers etc... Also the only "secrets" that Freemasons have is what we call the MODES OF RECOGNITION, which is how we identify each other through the degrees. Lastly, the term FREE Mason, means not a slave or in servitude, a FREE man.
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@freddieh8554
This is down to a 1890's hoax, called the "TAXIL HOAX", in which a French freethinker and Entered Apprentice (first degree) Freemason called Leo Taxil, was booted out of his lodge for bad behavior. To get his own back on his Masonic brothers, he convinced a Catholic priest that he was a murderer, and that Freemasons "worshiped Lucifer (Satan)". This eventually found its way all the way up to the Pope (Pope Leo XIII) who wrote a book called HUMANUM GENUS
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON FREEMASONRY, which is based on Taxil's lies. This went on for 14 years, when Taxil called a conference with the media and the Catholics, in which he declared his HOAX, to the laughter of the media, and the seething anger of the Catholics, since they'd been duped by the hoax for over 14 years, and had fallen for it, HOOK, LINE and SINKER.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@allysaid3076
You FAILED miserably on 24 questions out of 25
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1) What's the FIRST qualification for membership.
Reply: The belief in a SUPREME BEING, and it ain't Satan.
2) How OLD must you be.
Reply: 21 years old.
3) What are the THREE main principles in which Freemasonry is based.
Reply: ANSWERED
4) What IS Freemasonry.
Reply: A beautiful system of morality, veiled in allegory, and illustrated by symbols.
5) What is basis of Freemasonry.
Reply: The building of King Solomon's Temple.
6) Name the THREE main principle officers, and their locations within the lodge.
Reply: Worshipful Master (East), Senior Warden (West), Junior Warden (South)
7) How MANY Junior officers are there, and where are they in the lodge.
Reply: THREE, Senior Deacon (East), Junior Deacon (West), Inner Guard (North-West)
8) What is a JEWEL.
Reply: Its a removable item, which can be presented as a MEDAL, or a OBJECT (i.e compass)
9) On a Entered Apprentice, which arms and legs are made bare.
Reply: Left Arm, Left Leg.
10) Name the THREE great lights in Freemasonry.
Reply: The V.S.L., the Compass and Square.
11) Name the THREE lesser lights in Freemasonry.
Reply: The Sun (Snr warden), the Moon (Jr Warden), the Master.
12) When was the United Grand Lodge of England first formed.
Reply: 1717, in London.
13) What's the difference between the Scottish Rite and the Ancient and Accepted Rite.
Reply: Nothing, there the same thing.
14) Name ALL collar officers in a BLUE lodge or CRAFT lodge.
Reply: Treasurer, Secretary, DC, Deacons, Wardens, Charity Steward, Organist, Inner Guard, Outer Guard, Worshipful Master and Almoner.
15) Name the THREE pillars that are "Greek" Architecture, that are the Master and his Wardens.
Reply: Ionic (Master = Wisdom), Doric (Snr Warden = Strength) and Corinthian (Jr Warden = Beauty)
16) Who are the THREE Juwes.
Reply: The THREE ruffians, Jubela, Jubela and Jubelum.
17) What's in the North East Corner of the Lodge.
Reply: The Secretary and the DC.
18) Do you " Circumambulate" or perambulate round the lodge.
Reply: You perambulate.
19) Who guides candidates round the room.
Reply: The Deacons.
20) Where does "goat" joke supposedly come from.
Reply: From a misinterpreted abbreviation of the Great Architect of the Universe (G.A.O.T.U.)
21) What does the "chequered" carpet supposedly represent.
Reply: The ground floor of King Solomon's Temple, from the different WOODS used.
22) What are the TRIPLE TAU'S.
Reply: The symbol of the Holy Royal Arch degree.
23) What symbol is on a Royal Arch Mason pocket jewel.
Reply: The SEAL of Solomon.
24) What is meant by V.S.L.
Reply: It stands for the Volume of the Sacred Law (i.e: The Holy Bible)
25) Does the number 47, have any masonic significance.
Reply: Its on a I.P.M. (Immediate Past Master) jewel AFTER he comes out of office and is suppose to represent the 47th problem of Euclid.
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@allysaid3076
So in all fairness, you know SWEET FA about Freemasonry.
Also, the "And when you reach the higher ranks from 30-33 they expose the truth about Freemasons worshiping their own unique(Supreme being)/Masonic god(the light) but it’s Lucifer."
This is a KNOWN myth, that dates back to 1890, called the "Taxil Hoax", in which a French freethinker called Leo Taxil convinced the Catholic Church that Freemasons worshiped Lucifer, and it worked, they fell for it, HOOK, LINE and SINKER. He admitted his hoax 14 years later, to the laughter of the media, and the seething anger of the Catholics, who had been disgraced and humiliated for 14 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@allysaid3076
I don't know if you're lying or not but you can't lie to God.it doesn't matter if you go to a church or mosque the true faith comes from within and only The one God knows that .
Reply: Why should I lie about my faith, if I was a Satan worshiper, then that would be my decision wouldn't it, Anton Levey openly shows his faith in Satan, I show my faith in the Most High, Jehovah.
That sacred symbol that's a baphomet, you must agree with me that the symbol is used by witchcraft to summon a devil or demon.
Reply: Which specific symbol is Baphomet ?
And you guy's call it sacred.the letter G stands for god right, but who's that God, freemasons say it's the great architecture of the universe ,
Reply: The god of a Freemason, is the god of his religion. Since brothers of ALL religions are able to be a Freemason, the "G" stands for Great Architect of the Universe, which is a universal title given to God, so brothers of ALL religions can worship their god, without it causing disharmony.
This does NOT mean that ALL brothers BELIEVE in the doctrines of other religions, since the discussion of "religion" and "politics" are forbidden in a masonic lodge, it is seen as every brother is EQUAL in the eyes of God, such as the biblical phrase "Love thy neighbour", love thy brother.
and the symbol the pyramid and the all seeing eye .
Reply: The pyramid is a American thing, but the "All Seeing Eye" is called the "Eye of Providence" or "Divine Providence" and is originally a CHRISTIAN symbol and NOT a Masonic one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
I know the initiation process in the brotherhood you need to be a believer of a religion weither it be Christianity,islam,Hindu e.t.c but that doesn't change the fact that what you guy's do has something to do with satan/Lucifer.
Reply: You DON'T know the initiation process at all. I am a Junior Deacon, and it is my job to take new initiatives round the lodge, and guide them through the whole process. In NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM does Satan / Lucifer come into the ritual, and I'd like to know your SOURCE for that conclusion.
You talk about the taxil hoax right,you guy's are playing reverse phychology so that people know it's just a myth but it's not.
Reply: The Taxil Hoax has tainted Freemasonry since it started back in 1890, by Leo Taxil. I've done extensive research into it (with me being a Freemason as well), and I know that what he didn't know, he made up. Such as the rank of "Sovereign Pontiff" - there is no such rank, there is a rank called the Grand Pontiff, which is only the 19°, also there NOT 23 supreme councils of the world, each country and states within American have their own Grand Lodge. And, there is no such thing as UNIVERSAL Freemasonry, there are TWO major governing bodies of Freemasonry, which is U.G.L.E. (United Grand Lodge of England) and the Scottish Rite (Northern and Southern Jurisdiction) which have totally different rituals after the first THREE degrees.
How should I know maybe the guy was lying about it or even was ordered to do that so people might think it's a myth but it's not in fact after all that's what they want you to believe.
Reply: He admitted his hoax, 14 years later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
And their are alot of books explaining why Christians can't be freemasons.
Reply: There are a lot of books explaining WHY Christian's can't be Freemasons, but if that was the case, WHY was the Archbishop of Canterbury, Geoffrey Fisher, HEAD of the Anglican Church throughout the world, a Freemason, he held the office of Grand Chaplain in U.G.L.E.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about-freemasonry/famous-masons (RELIGION)
I know you can't tell me the truth so please let's just end this debate.
Reply: I'm telling you the truth, I think it is YOU, who is too pig headed to ACCEPT the truth.
Anyway, nice talking to you, all the best, and God Bless you.
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L P
Ohhhhhhhh, so you where a lowly EA, oh dear, seems we've got here a conceited interpreter of Freemasonry, LOL. You think you achieve the first degree, your a "expert", there are aspects of Freemasonry that your "mentor" needs to tell you, and explain to you in detail in every degree.
The mentor is usually a past master of great experience, and can explain what is meant by such and such in the ritual books, you can't think you can decipher it yourself, because you are NOT trained yet to decipher the symbols etc... I'm a Senior Deacon, and I am only three years off being Master of my lodge.
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Roger, Freemasonry is just a bunch of brothers, there's no "tight union", we look after each other, like family, do rituals based on the building of King Solomon's Temple in the Holy city of Jerusalem.
If there's something specific you'd like to ask, me and my brother, The Realist", will be happy to answer, as we are encouraged to talk about Freemasonry, to dispel the myths and fallacies surrounding it.
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@twaho
Freemasons have NEVER worshiped Lucifer, and the fact that you said "Does your doctrine not say he is equal to God", has just confirmed that you are ANOTHER VICTIM of the 1890 "TAXIL HOAX".
This MYTH goes back 128 years, to a time when a French first degree (beginner) Freemason called Leo Taxil (pen name), was kicked out of his lodge due to bad behavior. Wanting to get his own back on his Masonic brothers, he concocted
a whole facade that Freemasons worship Lucifer.
He told this lie to a Catholic priest (in confidence), however KNEW it would go further up the ranks, eventually reaching the POPE (Leo XIII) who wrote a book called HUMANUM GENUS ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII ON FREEMASONRY, which is based on Taxil's lies. .
Taxil also made a lie about a 33rd degree Mason called Albert Pike, and called him the "Grand Sovereign Pontiff" of UNIVERSAL Freemasonry, (no such rank exists, and Freemasonry is separated by "rites" and is not universal). Taxil, 14 years later (having a massed a rather large amount wealth due to book sales etc...) later CONFESSED to the hoax to a pact auditorium in Paris, which had the media and Catholics present, in which he declared his HOAX, the confession went down to hysterics from the media, and a lead balloon for the Catholics, as THEY fell for it, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER, for all those years,
This, even though debunked, has still tainted Freemasonry to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#The_Luciferian_quote
A series of paragraphs about Lucifer are frequently associated with the Taxil hoax. They read:
That which we must say to the world is that we worship a god, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the higher degrees, maintained in the Purity of the Luciferian doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay and his priests calumniate him?
Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also god. For the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods; darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive....
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.
While this quotation was published by Abel Clarin de la Rive in his Woman and Child in Universal Freemasonry, it does not appear in Taxil's writings proper, though it is sourced in a footnote to Diana Vaughan, Taxil's creation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax#A_later_interview_with_Taxil
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@judsongaiden9878
1) The "Pillars" represent the two pillars "Boaz & Jachin", that stood in the porchway of King Solomon's temple.
2) Not sure what mean by "archway", if you have a picture link I could look to know what you are talking about, I'll answer, if it is masonic.
3) The staircases only seem to be more in American Lodges, we don't have them here in the UK.
4) The tiled floor (as far as I am aware), is suppose to represent the FLOOR of Solomon's temple, the black and white are suppose to be the two different woods used, it is also a bit of YING YANG (i.e. good and bad, white and dark etc...).
5) As far as I am aware there are no Kabbala symbols, the most notable would being the "Tree of Life", the only symbol that you'd be aware of is the "Seal of Solomon" (the five pointed star).
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@jpg5747
Why would I want to block or delete this comment, I just like to add, that according to two ACTUAL 33rd degree Masons, Art deHoyos and S. Brent Morris, actually did some research into Jim Shaw's "The Big Deception", which is what Tom Mckenney's book is based on, and you'll be surprised that Jim Shaw was NOT even a elected officer of his lodge, neither did he EVER received the 33rd honorary degree. http://www.masonicinfo.com/shaw.htm
Art deHoyos and S. Brent Morris, noted Masonic authors, undertook an extensive analysis of Shaw's book and reveal the many inaccuracies it contains at this site. In addition, deHoyos has added additional documentation copies here. While some folks may try to 'enhance' their past, few are brazen enough to publish such provable untruths as Shaw has done.
Morris and deHoyos have documented through publicly available records that Jim Shaw not only was not the Master of his lodge as he claims but that he was never even an elected officer!!! Beyond that, they also prove - using public documents and materials available throughout the world - that he never received the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Masonry. The only "Deadly Deception" is the deception Shaw foists on his readers.
IS THERE A CONNECTION BETWEEN MASONRY AND THE ILLUMINATI?
Reply: The only connection the Illuminati has to Freemasonry, is its founder, Adam Weistrupt joined back in the late 1770's in Bavaria, Germany, but found it too expensive, and not in tune with his own ideals, so he left and started his own "secret society" called the Bund der Perfektibilisten, or Covenant of Perfectibility (Perfectibilists) but later changed it to Illuminatenorden.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
WHY IS MASONRY OPPOSED TO CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS?
Reply: There is NO opposition to ANY religion, Freemasonry is a SUPPORTER of religion.
IS FREEMASONRY A RELIGION?
Reply: The discussion of "religion" and "politics" are forbidden in a masonic lodge, hence to DOCTRINE can ever develop.
CAN A MAN BE BOTH A CHRISTIAN AND A MASON?
Reply: YES, I am a Church of England, Christian, Freemason.
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@Mordi Rosenthal
I answer some of your questions now Mordi:
Are there any perks in being a mason?
Reply: Depends on your interpretation of "perks", OFFICIALLY: no one should join if they expect to get any material gain from it, and the discussion of "religion" and "politics" are forbidden in a masonic lodge. On the other hand, you get to meet good people, who will look after you during your masonic career, offering advice etc.
I always thought that Freemasons are powerful people.
Reply: Depends on you mean "powerful", the brethren in my lodge come from all walks of life: Farmers, Solicitors, Bus Drivers, Accountants, Managers, Artists, etc..., in some lodges there has been known to have Members of Government, Presidents and Kings.
maybe because I read a few things about Propaganda Due. Reading about P2 brainwashed me into thinking that all freemasons are powerful and well-connected.
P2 is more of a conspiracy theory myth, rather than factual one.
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Patric, the Holy Bible says otherwise:
Matthew 16:26 - “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?”
Matthew 4:8 - “Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain,
and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;”
Matthew 4:9 - “And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.”
Matthew 6:24
- “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” (MONEY)
Luke 16:13
- “No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” (MONEY)
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BIBLE VERSES ABOUT "DEGREES":
1 Chronicles 15:18.
And with them their brethren of the second degree, Zechariah, Ben, and Jaaziel, and Shemiramoth, and Jehiel, and Unni, Eliab, and Benaiah, and Maaseiah, and Mattithiah, and Elipheleh, and Mikneiah, and Obededom, and Jeiel, the porters.
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1 Chronicles 17:17 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
And yet this was a small thing in thine eyes, O God; for thou hast also spoken of thy servant's house for a great while to come, and hast regarded me according to the estate of a man of high degree, O LORD God.
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Psalms 62:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Surely men of low degree are vanity, and men of high degree are a lie: to be laid in the balance, they are altogether lighter than vanity.
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Luke 1:52 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
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1 Timothy 3:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
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James 1:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:
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BIBLE VERSES ABOUT "MYSTERIES"
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Matthew 13:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
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Luke 8:10
And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
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1 Corinthians 4:1
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
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1 Corinthians 13:2
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
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1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
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@العالمالخوئي
1) There is NO EVIDENCE what so ever that Abraham EVER went to Mecca, other than Muhammad saying so.
2) The Pre-Islamic Arabs used to worship stones, and do TAWAF round them:
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Sahih Muslim, Vol. 7, Book of Commentary (Tafsir) on the Quran, Hadith 7179
Ibn Abbas reported: During the pre-Islamic days women circumambulated the Ka'ba naked,...
Classification: Sahih (Authentic), SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/muslim/43/7179
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Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, Book of Pilgrimage (Hajj), Hadith 726
Narrated 'Urwa: During the pre-lslamic period of Ignorance, the people used to perform Tawaf of the Ka'ba naked
except the Hums; and the Hums were Quraish and their offspring. The Hums used to give clothes to the men who would perform the Tawaf wearing them; and women (of the Hums) used to give clothes to the women who would perform the Tawaf wearing them. Those to whom the Hums did not give clothes would perform Tawaf round the Ka'ba naked. Classification: Sahih (Authentic), SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/26/726
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Sahih Muslim, Vol. 1, Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman), Hadith 352
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported: Let every people follow what they used to worship. Then all who WORSHIPPED
idols and STONES ... Classification: Sahih (Authentic), SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/muslim/1/352
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Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book of One-fifth of Booty, Hadith 386
Narrated Jubair bin Haiya: ...The other asked, "Who are you?" Al-Mughira replied, "We are some people from
the Arabs; we led a hard, miserable, disastrous life: we used to suck the hides and the date stones from hunger; we used to wear clothes made up of fur of camels and hair of goats, and used to WORSHIP trees and STONES. Classification: Sahih (Authentic),
SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/53/386
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Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 5, Book of Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (Maghaazi), Hadith 661
Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to WORSHIP STONES, and when we found a better stone than the first
one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the TAWAF around it. Classification: Sahih (Authentic),
SOURCE: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/59/661
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@العالمالخوئي
WHERE is the evidence that Abraham EVER built the Kaaba, there is NONE, because the Kaaba was built by the PAGAN Quraish tribe, back in the 2-3rd century, and NOT 2600 years ago, when Abraham was alive. If you look at Abraham's journey from Ur in the Chaldees (today's IRAQ), Abraham, walked AROUND the Saudi peninsula, on his way to the promised land of Canaan:
https://www.conformingtojesus.com/charts-maps/en/map_of_the_journeys_of_abraham_isaac_jacob.htm
God HATES pagans, as told in the TORAH, and tells that, if a prophet of God is to come into a land, he must UTTERLY DESTROY any pagan shrines dedicated to their gods, and MUST DESTROY any SACRED STONES, these are what Muslims still do today, with the bowing down to the Kaaba, and the revering and devotion to stones.
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You might find that the Illuminati is NOT based IN the Freemasons, it is a total separate entity.
History has it, that Illuminati founder, Adam Weishaupt, joined Freemason lodge in Bavaria, Germany, back in the late 1770's, but found it too expensive and NOT fitting with his idea's, so he left, and started his own "secret society", called the Bund der Perfektibilisten, or Covenant of Perfectibility (Perfectibilists) later to change to Illuminatenorden, or Order of Illuminati, after Weishaupt had seriously contemplated the name Bee order. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
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@Islamis4all
Absolutely, and the Quran CONFIRMS that.
Quran 2:41, 2:89, 2:91, 2:97, 2:101, 3:3, 3:50, 3:81, 4:47, 5:46,
5:48, 6:92, 10:37, 12:111, 35:31, 37:37, 46:12, 46:30, 61:6.
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@justme-kr7lx
The Holy Royal Arch revolves round the number THREE, such as the TRIPLE TAU, as their symbol.#
From what I have read of the Holy Royal Arch, the roots are both Jewish, and Christian, in their origins. I am a British, third degree, Master Mason, of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons (AF&AM) under the United Grand Lodge of England, my current position in the lodge is Senior Deacon, and I am three years off being Master of that lodge.
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@TheOnly X
There is plenty that your dad CAN tell you about Freemasonry without it affecting his obligation.
There are plenty of Masons on here who are willing to discuss Freemasonry, such as myself, and my brothers Tony Christie, Will Derby and The Realist (avatar name). We are actually encouraged to talk about Freemasonry, to dispel the myths and fallacies surrounding it. The only thing we really keep secret, is what we refer to as the MODES OF RECOGNITION, which is how we identify each other through the degrees, this is presented in the form of a WORD (password) and a GRIP (handshake), everything else we do is like a dramatized play, played out by the brethren, to tell the story of King Solomon and his temple in Jerusalem, and how the chief designer was killed by three fellowcraft workers because they wanted to know the password to a Master Mason (workers in those days were paid by the experience they had, and certain "words" were given to them to prove they had reached that level of expertise).
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I've read it:
https://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
Shame, the U.S doesn't SHARE that "secret" information about things such as 9/11, because I'm sure what Freemasonry holds, is far LESS trivia than what the U.S. fails to tell people and keeps "secret" and locked away.
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Your WRONG, YES, the basis of Freemasonry is the building of King Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, but he used workers (stonemasons and carpenters) from Tyre (today's "Lebanon"). It is said that Solomon was able to control demons with a special ring that was given to by God.
Solomon had hundreds of concubines and queens as lovers, he let some influence him to build idols outside of Jerusalem, eventually submitting to them himself. This made God angry and took away Solomon's wisdom and power. No one knows where the special ring went, maybe God took it back.
Freemasonry is purely about the TEMPLE, and the worship of YHWH (Jehovah), God of Israel, God of the Jews, and NOT necessarily about Solomon.
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@bryanmcdougall6973
Then maybe you should of phrased it differently, because I perceived that as a personal attack on ME, and my fellow brethren, and my fraternity, of which YOU have no knowledge of, or, have any personal information about, so in essence, Bryan, my DEFENSIVE, was valid.
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@bryanmcdougall6973
Its time to revise Albert Pikes, Morals and dogma and educate yourself on how a Mason should conduct himself towards human beings.
My Reply: WHY ?, do you think Albert Pike is the "Supreme Sovereign Grand Pontiff" of "Universal" Freemasonry, LOL, Pike was a small fish in a BIG POND of Freemasonry. His reach only included the Southern Jurisdiction of the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry" in the USA, I'm part of the Ancient Free and Accepted Masons, under U.G.L.E. (United Grand Lodge of England), and my Grand Master, is HRH, The Duke of Kent, Prince Edward. Also, a what a lot of Pike wrote in "M&D", doesn't concern me, or, is irrelevant to me, since my rite (aka the YORK RITE in the USA), has different rituals and meanings, even though we are ALL brethren of Freemasonry. Can I ask, do you "practice what you preach", in regard to "conduct towards other human beings", seems to me you have double standards, seems that you can slag me off, and I can't do the same to you, or at least defend myself and my brothers, from ignorant, arrogant bigot like you, without you "crying wolf".
To make so many assumptions clearly points towards my existing argument that the lodges are allowing the riff raff in, to pay for the costs of running the lodges. Let me guess.
My Reply: There is no "RIFF RAFF" in Freemasonry, you are balloted by ALL the members of the lodge, if even ONE member, was to put a "black ball", in the ballot box, your OUT. Also, you need at least TWO brothers (one to propose you to Freemasonry, and one to second it) to be judges of your "good character", so if your known to be a career criminal, or a general d**khead, you wan't even get to the interview stages. Also, that is what the "subscription" is for, a masonic lodge still needs to have insurance, utility rates, building insurance, fire certificates etc..., this doesn't pay for itself, so a portion of the yearly members subscription, goes towards to upkeep of the lodge.
You a 3rd degree master Mason.
My Reply: There is NO DEGREE higher than a third degree, all degrees above a third, are classed as SIDE DEGREES, so a 33rd degree Mason, does NOT outrank a third degree, only rank that is classed as authoritative, is if you are a OFFICER in the lodge, and these include the Worshipful Master, the Senior and Junior Wardens, these are classed as PRINCIPLE officers, then you get the junior officers, these are the Senior and Junior Deacon, and the Inner Guard, I'm a Senior Deacon at present.
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Blind leading the Blind, what type of crap is that, idiot.
And wtf did you get "pagan" from.
FYI, 80% of global Freemasons ARE Christian, even Geoffrey Fisher who was Archbishop of Canterbury was a Freemason, he held the rank of Grand Chaplain, in the United Grand Lodge of England.
https://www.ugle.org.uk/about-freemasonry/famous-masons (RELIGION)
FYI, Darkness refers to IGNORANCE, and Light refers to KNOWLEDGE (2 Corinthians 4:6)
I'm a Church of England, Christian, Freemason.
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1) Its NOT a "old man's club" (even though a majority of its members ARE over 60) its a FRATERNITY.
2) Its roots are NOT Christian, even though its estimated that 80% of global Freemasons, its based round the building of King Solomon's Temple, which is OLD Testament, not New Testament.
3) They are NOT called "medals" they are called JEWELS, and they symbolize the orders members are in (i.e. The Holy Royal Arch), the Centennial jewel (i.e. lodge has been established for 100 years), and the United Grand Lodge of England, Tercentennial jewel (i.e. U.G.L.E established 300 years).
4) The "ranks" ARE meaningless outside the order, however, the higher up you get, the more knowledge you obtain, and eventually, you will become Master of that lodge.
5) Freemasons DON'T worship "food and European football", the god of a Freemason, is the god of the religion he professes.
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@Bgh583
1. I dint mean, FREEMASON worship food. I meant my 3 family members, the father , the brother , and uncle. worships food and football and are freemasons, so I apologise for the confusion. ( to bash the very stupendous idea of devil worship.)
My Reply: I glad for that, I think you wrote your sentence wrong, you put a full stop after "And I can tell you.", so this sentence had no meaning, THEN, you went on to say "They ain't worshipping anything but food and European football", so it sounded as if you were generalizing to ALL Masons.
2. Regarding "jewels" or medals, as anyone outside the order knowns them as, are quite honestly pompous. It feels wrong for me to see old men, with that much decorating "jewels" . But maybe I am just that kind of man that believes medals or "jewels" should be given for extraordinary service by soldiers,police,firefighters,doctors. Etc. And not be used by civilians that quite honestly dont contribute much, beside money donation. And btw. If you call them jewels, why is there a book written by a freemason ( Trevor I. Harris ) that describes MEDALS and jewels of freemasonry. And some of the pieces I have at home, sure as hell look like medals, pretty much like medals i was rewarded for my service.
My Reply: I don't regard my "jewel" as pompous, I ONLY wear them with my regalia, inside the lodge, and only whist the meeting is in progress, once the lodge is closed, we all take off our jewels and regalia (aprons and collars), and go downstairs for meal and a drink. I also think that is why they are called "jewels" and NOT "medals" like you say "medals should be given for extraordinary service by soldiers, police, firefighters, doctors and nurses.", as the definition of a "jewel" according to the dictionary is described as: a decorative object.
3. Depending on wich part of the earth you are at, freemasons are HEAVILY INFLUENCED by christianity, so you will forgive why I draw that conclusion. Especially in Scandinavian countries, were you HAVE to be baptised in the Christian faith. To even be have chance of getting an interview.
But I imagine that is different in the US freemason, since you people have a different book of rules and other variations of grade and ranks compared to the swedish freemason order.
My Reply: Freemasonry is NOT influenced by ANY religion, its a non-secular, non-denominational fraternity, that is why it is NOT a "religion", as some people have implied it is, it offers NO DOCTRINE, and offers NO SALVATION, Freemasonry is a supporter of religion, and it expects and demands its members, to continue with their religious duties, to the glorious religion they profess.
Now, make no mistake, I have nothing against the freemason, I actually support the order's exstience. And I truely believe the freemason have been targeted and blamed for decades by ignorant people. And hungry news media looking for a quick drama party.
But you cant look in me eyes and tell me with straight face, that the freemason order isn't a little bit silly or an old man club. Especially knowing the fact, that the majority of freemason are over the age ove 54+.
My Reply: I could you you flat in the eyes, and tell you that Freemasonry is a wonderful fraternity to be in, TRUE, some of the rituals used my seem unusual to some people, but once your in, you get the meaning of it. For example, Freemasons use Stonemason tools as "spiritual guide", so the 24 inch gauge is a "measuring tool", but to Freemasons, its a 24 hours a day ritual, part working and refreshment, and part in service to God.
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@Kostic
The "standing up" he is referring to is the parts of Freemasonry ritual where members have a certain part to play, and also a part to say, these are all played in in a sequence of events to tell a story to the candidate. The "secrets" of a Freemason, is how we acknowledge each other through the degrees, and there are three, these are presented in the form of a "word" and a "grip", and that's it, and if you don't believe me, this is the OBLIGATION or SOLEMN PROMISE from my actual lodge ritual book, that a Freemason takes, in order to keep the MODES OF RECOGNITION, private from non-members.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-e6BHxjRoS/
This is it explained in a booklet issued by the United Grand Lodge of England.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-uEdn2Dht6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-uEhUsD9Xc/
And please don't call us "bastards" until you get to know us.
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Keep WHAT "secret", the only secrets that Freemasons hold, and keep PRIVATE, is the MODES OF RECOGNITION, between the three degrees, these are presented in the form of a "word" and a "grip", and that is it. As for "...what people know about them..", is what people have heard from NON-members, and as such have the WRONG opinion of Freemasons, and Freemasonry, because they have been deceived by the fourth-rate information from someone who is a "conceited interpreter of Freemasonry - Albert Pike".
As for Kubrick, his film "Eyes Wide Shut", is more based on the Illuminati than Freemasonry, I can recommend far more "true" or "close to true" films and programs, that are far more correct.
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@christianwood1891
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1) Freemasonry is a "Society with Secrets" and NOT a "Secret Society".
2) There are many RITES in Freemasonry, the TWO major ones are
- U.G.L.E. (united Grand Lodge of England) which I'm part of.
- The Scottish Rite (North and South Jurisdiction) (USA)
3) The only "secrets" Freemasons have are what we call the MODES OF RECOGNITION, which are distinguishing "handshakes and passwords" between the different degrees.
4) The "meal and drinks" after the meeting is called a "FESTIVE BOARD", to toast Queen, country, brethren and God.
If there are more SPECIFIC questions you want to ask, please do, oh and we are NOT conspirators, we are just NOT asked what, when, why and how....
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@user-gk8vb6dl9l
@Adam Halstead "Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."----Rabbi Isaac Wise
Reply: Absolutely, like I said, Freemasonry is based round the building of King Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem (Israel), it is very much OLD TESTAMENT.
GENTILE masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.”
(The Protocols of Zion, 4:2)
Reply: 1) 80% of global Freemasons are Protestant Christian, 2) The Protocols of Zion was a HOAX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
Masonry, that immense association, the rare initiated of which, that is to say, the real chiefs of which, whom we must be careful not to confound with the nominal chiefs, live in a strict and intricate alliance with the militant members of Judaism, princes and imitators of the high Cabal. For that elite of the order--those real chiefs whom so few of the initiated know, or whom they only know for the most part under a nom de guerre, are employed in the profitable and secret dependence of the cabalistic Israelites. And this phenomenon is accomplished thanks to the habits of rigorous discretion to which they subject themselves by oaths and terrible menaces; thanks also to the majority of Jewish members which the mysterious constitution of Masonry seats in its sovereign counsel."---Gougenot des Mosseaux in Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, Paris, 1869.
Reply: There is no "oaths", there is a SOLEMN PROMISE to keep the Modes of recognition from non members.
The Jewish Guardian admitted openly on 12 April 1922: "Freemasonry is born out of Israel."
Reply: Absolutely, that is what the history of Freemasonry has ALWAYS been told.
The following could be read in the French masonic magazine Le Symbolisme (July 1928): "The most important duty of freemasonry must be to glorify the Jews, which has preserved the unchanged divine standard of wisdom."
Reply: There is NO glorifying of Jews in anyway, it is the glorifying of God, whom dwelt in the temple.
The high-ranking Freemason Dr Rudolph Klein stated: "Our rite is Jewish from beginning to end, the public should conclude from this that we have actual connections with Jewry." (Latomia, No. 7-8, 1928)
Reply: True, Freemasonry is Jewish in nature, but has NO connection to Judaism, as the discussion of "religion" and "politics" are forbidden in a masonic lodge.
The Jewish Tribune newspaper, in 1927, in an editorial, stated: "Freemasonry is based on Judaism. Eliminate the teachings of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?"
Reply: There is no Judaism in Freemasonry, apart from the temple.
0:16 Star of David.
Reply: Yes, the Star of David, also known as the Seal of Solomon.
https://starofdavidsite.wordpress.com/2016/05/24/2643/
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@Islamis4all
Islam is FAR from the truth, on multiple reasons, but thanks for the sentiment.
1) Muhammad was a FALSE prophet, no other prophet ever recited the "Satanic Verses", all other prophets KNEW what Gods voice sounded like.
2) All Holy Bible prophets where JEWISH, and NOT Arab.
3) God NEVER made a covenant with Ishmael, so no "prophets" were EVER to come from his seed.
4) Muhammad put numerous "folklore" tales and Christian "Apocrypha" works into the Quran, and claimed they were from God, this is PROVEN by a scholar (a professor of folklore).
5) Muhammad even used Jewish Rabbi sources, such as Midrash, and Sanhedrin, and claimed they were from God, even a Greek fiction story was used in the creation of the character Dhul-Quarnain.
6) Islam is DRENCHED in paganism, most of the rituals you do today, can be sourced to Quraishi pagan ceremonies:
* Tawaf of the Kaaba (the pagan shrine of 360 idols).
* Running between as-Safa and al-Marwa.
* Excessive devotion to STONES (STONE WORSHIP).
* Bow down to the Kaaba (IDOL WORSHIP)
7) There are numerous verses in the Quran that also ONLY SERVE Muhammad and NOT mankind, these are obviously man-made "revelations", for Muhammad's "lust and desires", which Aisha picked up on.
8) No "prophet of God", stole, killed, coveted, lied, MORE than Muhammad.
9) If you believe that the "beautiful lifestyle" (based off the "good example" of Muhammad - Q33:21), is fantastic, then your standards are pretty low, I wouldn't call a murderous, thieving, paedeophile any kind of "good example".
10) Muhammad was a SINNER, he sinned, and was going to continue to sin, in the future, this is NOT the example I would want MY FAMILY to endure.
11) There is numerous Biblical errors.
12) Historical errors.
13) Contradictions.
14) Quran is NOT preserved, the Quran today (the HAFS) is the FOURTH standardization, making it the most corrupted "holy" book ever written.
15) Quran is NOT in any chronological order.
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YET, Muhammad was the only so-called prophet that received the SATANIC VERSES, and broke numerous TEN COMMANDMENTS, by Killing (Jews), Stealing (from Quraish caravans), COVETING his neighbours wife (Zaynab), being a PAGAN, keeping and bowing to an IDOL (the Kaaba), changing the Sabbath day to Friday, commit adultery with Mary the Copt, seems NOT so CLEAN CUT your false prophet, Zam.
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@magnellseth
The only "secrets" that Freemasons have, is what we call the MODES OF RECOGNITION, which is the way Freemasons distinguish themselves from each other. You see there are THREE degrees, these are recognized by the APRON you wear. So a beginner (Entered Apprentice) would wear a plain white apron, a intermediate (or Fellow-Craft) would wear a white apron with two rosettes on it, a Master Mason, wears a white apron with blue border, and three rosettes on it. When you go through these degrees you are entrusted with a specific handshake or grip, and a password attached to that grip. So, a Entered Apprentice SHOULDN'T know the secrets of a Fellow-Craft, a Fellow-Craft SHOULDN'T know the secrets of a Master Mason. So, these are what we call our "secrets". If you are that interested, go look round your local lodge, or ask me anything you like.
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@markwells7462
Freemasonry isn't the least bit "creepy", and only if you listen to conceited NON members will they deceive you into believing that it is. As for "for beta males" LOL, I don't know where you get this garbage from, Freemasonry takes men from ALL walks of life, average Joe's, with everyday jobs, I have brothers in my lodge who are Bus Drivers, Farmers, Factory Workers, Accountants, Estate Agents etc...
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