Comments by "Ash Roskell" (@ashroskell) on "Singapore Airlines flight: Passengers tell of horror flight in which British man dies | BBC News" video.

  1. I’d say, don’t blame the passengers for following the airline’s instructions. Aren’t we meant to accept that they had zero warning? That the passengers had not been told to buckle up at all? Something is wrong with this whole story. Pilots usually know when turbulence is coming and warn the passengers in advance. I’ve experienced that myself. So, what happened to the warning systems? Or did the pilot fail to notice, or react properly to alarms? This, “could,” have been a freak weather event. But it seems vanishingly unlikely that it could not have been foreseen, given its sheer scale.
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  2.  @stephanielarissaannepang9684 : Such people should be banned (or at least, suspended) from flying. But this was not that scenario at all. There is no suggestion that any passenger was not following instructions. People were free to walk around and use the toilets at this point. You should be asking why there was no warning? There usually is.
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  3.  @JL.. : Sure, wear a seatbelt all the way. That’s good advice . . . Except for those who need the toilet, have health conditions that preclude being immobile for long periods of time, or those who simply need to cope with their fear of flying by doing something other than sitting in one spot. These people all followed the instructions they were given, according to the report. They had not warned at all. Which is odd, don’t you think? So, can we stop with the victim blaming? It’s not like these massive corporations don’t have lawyers, press agents and bought up politicians for that stuff anyway? It’s easy to get smug about it, when you weren’t there, and I don’t feel like the, “grow a brain,” comment was warranted at all. You are giving good advice after all. But it is abundantly clear from the coverage that the passengers were in no way at fault here. Either the warning systems failed, the pilot didn’t notice the warnings (or didn’t respond appropriately) or it was a freak weather event that no one could have predicted. But that last one, at that scale, is in a very distant last place. Experienced flyers will all tell you, the pilot will usually warn passengers about turbulence in advance, and everyone will buckle up.
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  4. This was either a failure of the warning systems of the tech, or pilot error. What I would want to know is why the warning systems didn’t warn the pilot about the oncoming turbulence, or whether the pilot was actually paying attention? Most people who’ve flown a few times have experienced turbulence, and I’d be willing to bet they remember being calmly warned by the pilot over the tannoy to buckle up and remain seated, long before the turbulence actually hit. Yet, we’re meant to accept that something that big was totally unforeseen and unforeseeable? Could be a freak of nature, I suppose? Just seems vanishingly unlikely to me.
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  5. This was either a failure of the technical warning systems, or pilot error. “The aircraft,” remains pointedly unidentified by the BBC, for some reason? That makes me wonder if it is yet another Boeing, with a team of expensive hotshot lawyers already on sight, frightening the press off with threats? Turbulence is never usually so unforeseen. When it’s that big, it’s unimaginable that the pilot wouldn’t announce oncoming trouble, telling the passengers to buckle up, etc. I’ve experienced it myself and we were warned well in advance. So, either the pilot wasn’t paying attention, or the systems just didn’t work.
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  6.  @grassytramtracks  : Hmm . . . I guess we’ll find out, and I am aware of clear air turbulence, but I thought they could detect everything from sudden shifts in temperature, wind direction, etc, plus having the back up of the meteorological people who monitor these things for them on the ground? Not saying it couldn’t happen, or even that it’s necessarily not what happened. Just got an instinctive feeling, which won’t do for evidence I’m afraid. Maybe that’s just because we’ve got all these scary stories about Boeing’s appalling safety lapses of late, lurking in the background? And the fact that their whistleblowers keep showing up seriously dead? And the fact that all the reports keep pointedly referring to, “the aircraft,” without naming what type of plane it is? But, you’re probably right. Maybe I’m crapping on a great pilot who save the lives of all his passengers amidst unforeseeable circumstances, through sheer courage and quick thinking under pressure?
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  7.  @CerberusTenshi  : “Drips,” does it? Awe, bless. Must be painful to be so insecure. 🤭
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  8.  @mstrmren  : What airline explains the subtleties of, “clear air,” turbulence as part of the safety demo? Talking out of your orifice, kid.
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  9.  @mstrmren  : Never claimed to be, “the smartest person on YouTube,” kid. You sure are the most insecure. It’s not me you’re mad at . . . Not really . . .
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  10.  @mstrmren  : You still upset about something? Here’s €5. Go buy yourself a life, kiddo.
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