Comments by "Ash Roskell" (@ashroskell) on "Labour "hemorrhaging" support over Israel Hamas war | Andrew Marr | The New Statesman" video.

  1. Historically, Labour gave up after Neil Kinnock and started a concerted shift to occupy the centre ground, which meant a shift toward the right, culminating in Tony Blair’s brand of Tory lite. Their problem ever since has been a division between the rank and file socialists and the Westminster centrists which has created leaders who vacillate between the two sides, often on the same day, causing them to look weak and fumble their advantages, often at crucial moments. The difference today is that the Tories have the same problem now. And it’s new to them, so they don’t even have an internal coping strategy. Not that they ever lost their right wing instincts of the Thatcher era. It’s actually that they started flinging open their doors to extremists and panderers and, frankly, any short term vote winner, regardless of tomorrow’s consequences. And forget, “ideology.” That’s now just their fig leaf of window dressing used to justify widespread corruption, incompetence and waste. Hence Neo-Liberalism has gained such traction as it guarantees the worst, most corrupt and stupid people will grasp at power in just the same way that a new casino with no security guarantees a vast criminal element will move in. Liz Truss seemed to be the peak expression of Neo-Lib madness, but we’ve gradually learned that Rishi Sunak is no better, possibly worse. The upshot being, while Labour have the capacity to destroy themselves in the manner they have always done, the Tories are in a Cold Civil War just now and they actually need a period in the wilderness to fight it out in hot terms. They have to learn that even the brown skinned brown shirt is still an overt racist in the end and Brits don’t tolerate that stuff. That stealing national resources for friends and family only works when the electorate is not actively sinking into poverty and clearly able to blame the right people for putting them there. And that putting genuinely stupid people in charge of all three main offices of government is not amusing to anyone, but genuinely alarming. Starmer will recover from this one, unless he actively works at screwing up.
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  2.  @369dabbler : Why would you, “hope so”? Do you like being robbed and gaslighted? I take it you’re not so rich that you’re one of the thieves? Perhaps you’re just not very smart?
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  3.  @davidgaskin5417  : Yeah, there’s a lot of this False Equivalency, “strategy,” going around, but it’s so infantile I can’t imagine it works. It’s a bit like saying, “Why would you switch to having a bank manager running your finances? They’ll be worse than the muggers who currently steal from you every day.” Whoever programs these bots must be about 12 years old.
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  4.  420Chilled  : No you haven’t, robo-pimp. Not even, “Jezza,” believes that.
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  5.  @brianatkinson4407  👈🤖 beep boop.
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  6.  @piccalillipit9211  : Not sure how any of that relates to my pressie of how we got where we are? You’re commenting on the attitudes of voters, as you see them, which I said nothing about.
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  7.  @piccalillipit9211  : Jesus, kid. Calm down. I have no idea what your point is. “Not really,” what? I compared Labour’s old problems with the Tories’ newest ones. You answered a question I never asked, so maybe you’re the one who picked the wrong response tag? Whatever the case, try not to take it so personally, son.
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  8.  @piccalillipit9211  : Oh dear . . . Ah well . . . You clearly don’t need my help with anything then. Feel better now?
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  9.  @piccalillipit9211  : I shall, I assure you, with or without your consent. 😉
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