Comments by "Ash Roskell" (@ashroskell) on "Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: Peace talks must focus on creating a 'new world order' | DW News" video.
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@PeterSedesse : That was the observation I was hoping someone would make, sir. The one big thing to add to that list is:
* Begun the process of shifting Russia to becoming China’s Vassal State. Did you know that China just recently changed all of its electronic maps? Now those regions of the Russian, “Federation,” that we’re soaked up into the USSR, all have their old, Manchurian, names again. If that isn’t a statement of intent, what is? If Britain started calling America, “The Colonies of King George III,” again, America would be worried . . . for about 5 minutes, until they remember that they outgun Britain both militarily and economically at about 1,000 to 1.
I genuinely think Russia will break up and shrink, becoming wholly reliant upon China for survival. And they will likely keep Putin in power. And he will only be able to prevent palace coups and revolutions by ever increasing extremism, until we have another North Korea on our hands. I certainly believe that this is China’s long game.
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@xChimkin : No, son. The statement, “not an argument,” is not an argument. You cannot debate people who died more than a century ago. The, “rules based society,” that was introduced by NATO after WWII acknowledged that EVERY country created its borders by displacing or absorbing previous populations, including Russia. So, your benchmark is post WWII, or you have nothing to, “argue,” kid.
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@stevealba56 : I think you’re missing the point. Quite aside from the ongoing oil trading with friendly nations that Russia is doing with its fossil fuels, they can only get what the west dictates they can get for it now. And that is no longer a sustainable model for funding their war. It’s one of the sanctions that China and other nations are happily swallowing, as getting unusually cheap oil at artificially low prices makes everyone a winner . . . Everyone except Russia, that is.
But the real point here is that the west knows they have to follow through, now that they’ve drawn on Russia, returning hostile intent for their hostile intent. They may well be capable of leaving Ukraine to twist in the wind, but they won’t because that would not be in anyone’s interests. They have tried repeatedly to warn Putin that his constant lies and greedy imperialism would end in tears, but letting him get away with gassing civilians in Syria and invading Crimea was already too much for many in the west, and it became clear to western analysts that such appeasement was the very instrument with which Putin was robbing NATO of its moral authority and international reputation. Since then, NATO has seen by public and political reactions around the globe there is more than just an appetite for putting Putin back in his box. People want to see justice done. And that desire is keeping politicians in power and winning them legitimacy.
Once you draw down on your enemy, you cannot afford to let him get back up again. And since Putin’s strongest ally seeks to benefit from his weakening, they will continue to stand by showing the limits of their, “unlimited,” partnership, as they have greedy eyes on the populations of potential break away states.
But the NATO countries have seen their power, wealth and security enhanced by Putin’s miscalculation. So, even if Crimea becomes an independent statelet, after UN supervised referenda, Russia will not be allowed to profit this time. The west will make its point by ensuring Putin walks away with less Ukrainian real estate than it started with in February of last year. And it won’t be until that has been achieved (and the Russian guns fall silent) that the US, UK, Poland and Germany will put any real pressure on Zelensky to start serious talks.
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