Comments by "Ash Roskell" (@ashroskell) on "The Lincoln Project"
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I tell you, if they force these people to testify at the Impeachment Trial, the GOP will be broken. Under oath, with no 5th Amendment to hide behind, on live TV, what can they say about, “The Steal?” That is, after all, the REASON for the Insurrection. And they cannot offer ANY, “evidence,” for, “believing,” it was a thing. Most will admit they knew it to be a lie, and the world will hear them; Q, the, “proud,” boys, and all the cult of trump, will hear the truth from the lips of those who lead them to disaster, criminal records and personal ruin. They cannot refuse to testify, and the key witnesses are the very people who lead the charge, from the back, like this guy, like Graham, Hawley, Cruz and the rest. It will be the most important event in American history, since the surrender of the Confederacy. And twice as damaging to the cult of trump. DEMAND their TESTIMONY from your representatives! Make sure to inundate them, till the trial begins! ✌️
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@elizabethlock6169 : You know what will bother them? I tell you, if they force these people to testify at the Impeachment Trial, the GOP will be broken. Under oath, with no 5th Amendment to hide behind, on live TV, what can they say about, “The Steal?” That is, after all, the REASON for the Insurrection. And they cannot offer ANY, “evidence,” for, “believing,” it was a thing. Most will admit they knew it to be a lie, and the world will hear them; Q, the, “proud,” boys, and all the cult of trump, will hear the truth from the lips of those who lead them to disaster, criminal records and personal ruin. They cannot refuse to testify, and the key witnesses are the very people who lead the charge, from the back, like this guy, like Graham, Hawley, Cruz and the rest. It will be the most important event in American history, since the surrender of the Confederacy. And twice as damaging to the cult of trump. DEMAND their TESTIMONY from your representatives! Make sure to inundate them, till the trial begins! ✌️
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@conniesueadamsadams4092 : I’m begging you all; please, please get in touch with your representatives, on both sides? Demand that the key witnesses are forced to TESTIFY at trump’s trial! And don’t let up, until the day it begins. The TESTIMONY of people like him, Cruz, Hawley, Lindsay Graham (especially) and the rest will be the key to RUINING the GOP for a generation, or maybe for good? What can they say about, “The Steal,” which was the REASON for the Insurrection, and therefore the main focus of the Trial? That they, “believe,” in it? They’ll be ripped to shreds! Possibly get a Perjury rap! Once ONE of them admits the TRUTH; that they have no evidence, and they KNEW it was just a political ruse, a Seditious LIE, ALL OF THEM will do the same, and the house of cards will finally tumble! They are not allowed to refuse to testify, and they can’t take the 5th. And when the watching world hears them, under oath on LIVE TV, telling Q, The Proud Boys and the entire cult of trump, that they ALWAYS KNEW, “The Steal,” was a LIE, what future does the GOP have then? After their followers now have lost their careers, have criminal records and have left over 50 cops hospitalised? One cop was blinded! Another is still in a coma, with permanent brain damage! And we all know about the trump supporting cop who gave his life! If we compel their TESTIMONY, it’s OVER for the GOP! Demand accountability! Make sure your representatives KNOW what citizens expect from this trial! A final reckoning, with the TRUTH! ✌️👍
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WildHeart : We literally have secret police, like the Stasi, kidnapping, shooting and intimidating Americans, to show us that our free speech and democratic rights no longer exist. All because of the greedy, spineless racists in the GOP. It will take more than a generation, just to unravel their crimes and create the reforms necessary to protect America from this ever happening again, let alone heal the wounds and bring JUSTICE to guilty and victim alike! The whole lot of these collaborators deserve to be lined up against the same wall with the trumps and executed. But, that’s why we’re better than the,, because we will restore the Constitution. But, every day the trump’s walk free, after the inauguration, will be one more day the Republic was still BROKEN. 👍
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@Descalabro : You’re not following me. The, “Verdict,” really is irrelevant. Even if there’s a public outcry, when all their plotting, conspiracy and machinations all come out, I doubt they would convict him too. But NOTHING depends upon THAT! Hearing the likes of Lindsay Graham (who’s already protesting the very notion of having, “witnesses,” at a, “trial.” I mean, imagine such a, “novelty?”) or Josh Hawley and / or Ted Cruz (another who’s going on TV to walk back his claims about, “the steal”); hearing the GOP top brass ADMIT on LIVE TV, that, “the steal,” is a LIE and they always KNEW IT! That will BREAK THEM! They cannot refuse to testify, nor can they take The 5th! What? Are they going to Perjure themselves? Give their, “evidence,” for believing it? Risk a Conspiracy rap? Worse maybe? . . . FOR TRUMP??? The very best they can say (which their lawyers have already briefed them on) is a version of the Nuremberg Defence: “I have no evidence for the steal, nor did I at the time, but my president said HE DID, so I believed and trusted him,” Coz’, why wouldn’t you? In other words, “We were only following orders.” You tell me? What else CAN they say? . . . 🤔✌️
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@Descalabro : We have already seen a steep drop in Q followers, and other disillusioned trump fans, due to his not staging a round up of the Dems on the Inauguration Day locking them up and retaking power. The base is still there, but weakened. And they will lose significantly more if they hear, from the mouths of those who lead them to disaster (from the back) that they had lied the entire time. Some witnesses will be able to say they were always sceptical, and said so. Other can say they never supported, “the steal,” lie, and yet others, will simply have to say that they knew it was a lie, but lied anyway, because Donny told them to. In other words, the GOP will fracture into two, divergent narratives about what is true, what happened and whom they stand by. They will get that, “civil war,” they always wanted, only in their own ranks. The Greene thing, the, “steal lie,” and the Nazis showing up at the Capitol Riots have already cost the, deeply. But, this will be the point at which most of them will be forced to choose their side. Those who voted to challenge the election, regardless of the riots will largely comprise one side. The ones who refused to, despite planning to, and who simply didn’t will largely be on the other. Many will sink, with their feet nailed to the deck of the TrumpTanic. And, that’s what I’m talking about. Those who remain in control will either be Trumpian proto-fascists, or the system gamers, like Mitch McConnell. It’s unclear which way they’ll swing at this point, but the fracture is already beginning. What is clear is, so long as they force testimony from the GOP’s top brass, the half of the GOP that is left in charge, will be weakened, disgraced and struggling to rebuild. And, that’s why the verdict doesn’t matter. They’re Testimonies matter. And that’s why they will go, AFTER the trial, cap in hand to big business. Because these donors never leave forever. And, sooner or later, the government will be doing something that corporations need to fund opposition to. And that’s what they hire politicians for.
I’m not fundamentally disagreeing with you. All I’m saying is (and the GOP knows I’m right) this impeachment could RUIN them, and the, “verdict,” is not even what the stakes are! Both sides know it. It’s a rigged game. But, they might be able to expose and shut down the roulette table?
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@guitrr : They will have to commit perjury if they try to make any allegations without evidence, so all they can say on the stand, at best, is the Nuremberg Defence: “Trump said it was so, and I followed orders.” They will be eviscerated if they try it, which will be just as damaging for them; and, if they all say the same thing, one after another, it will also be utterly humiliating. Some will crack, tell the truth, and confirm that others told them they knew it was a lie. Before long, corroborating testimonies will put the liars in the Perjury firing line again. They really don’t have any choice. It’s not so easy to be stubborn under oath ✌️
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I tell you, if they force these people to testify at the Impeachment Trial, the GOP will be broken. Under oath, with no 5th Amendment to hide behind, on live TV, what can they say about, “The Steal?” That is, after all, the REASON for the Insurrection. And they cannot offer ANY, “evidence,” for, “believing,” it was a thing. Most will admit they knew it to be a lie, and the world will hear them; Q, the, “proud,” boys, and all the cult of trump, will hear the truth from the lips of those who lead them to disaster, criminal records and personal ruin. They cannot refuse to testify, and the key witnesses are the very people who lead the charge, from the back, like this guy, like Graham, Hawley, Cruz and the rest. It will be the most important event in American history, since the surrender of the Confederacy. And twice as damaging to the cult of trump. DEMAND their TESTIMONY from your representatives! Make sure to inundate them, till the trial begins! ✌️
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cstrutherskgs : In 1945, when there was no longer any reason to fear being reported by your neighbours, to your other neighbours, Berlin, the heartland of Nazism was a mysteriously changed place. The Allies all remarked upon how there didn’t seem to be a single Nazi Party member to be found, anywhere. No proud die hards, no one willing to stand on their, “beliefs,” and let the chips fall where they may. They would inform to the allies, about other Nazis, but not a one would ever admit to being one. When Trump is out, and there’s no one there to obstruct justice for the Trump’s, and his base finally discovers that THEY were the ones Trump ripped off, and were betrayed the worst; even Alabamans will say they, “never heard of Donny.” It’s historically amazing, just how fast a cult can evaporate under the disinfectant light of truth . . . SMH ✌️
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Dear Lincoln Project, I genuinely believe that America needs a visual aid, a symbol, to help them truly understand this Covid 19 Crisis. My suggestion is that we build a Cairn, like the ancients did? It would be cheap, and relatively simple and easy to build and, if we represent each DEAD Covid victim, with one stone each, this might help America, “get it?” Such a project would need a site to place it, and I think, so as to challenge the administration, it should be next to, or in front of a Trump owned or key Government building? It would need funding, and supervision, and someone able to place 1000 stones in a 24 hour period. I genuinely believe that such a symbol might have a significant impact on how average Americans SEE and GRASP the crisis we’re in. What do you think?
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Spok : That’s not logical, Spok? But, I guess, for a guy who’s Vulcan Death Grip means he can’t jerk off without falling unconscious, you must have a lot of anger issues? Fortunately, Donny doesn’t like, “Aliens,” so you don’t get to vote. Never move to America, son. Neither side would welcome you. We will remove the Trump’s, jail them, reform government and that’s how we will live long and prosper. You will be unemployed in your, “shithole country,” but that’s not our fault 🖖
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@vidyasonavane9602 : I think you’re right. The mask of Trump has been torn off, revealing that it was always the GOP all along. He took the flack, but they backed all of his lunacy. And, any who might have broken with him are STUCK, because Big Business has ditched them, leaving only grass roots Nazis, for donations of the big MONEY. I wonder if the Impeachment will cause their permanent fracture? After the top GOP members have been asked to give their, “evidence,” for believing in, “The Steal?” That is what they rioted about, after all. But, with no 5th to take, under oath and on live TV, I’m guessing most of them will go with the Nuremberg Defence, or a version of it? “I had no evidence for it, personally, but my president said it was true, and I believed him.” Or, “We were only following orders.” That whole notion of, “the steal,” needs to be CRUSHED at this Impeachment, by the GOP! And, a good lawyer could make that happen!
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@antoniosaxon8605 : Well, keep in touch with your representatives then? Demand that they put top GOP goons on the stand! The, “verdict,” of this impeachment will be MEANINGLESS, if the GOP have been FORCED, under oath, to DENOUNCE, “The Steal.” Ted Cruz is ALREADY walking it back, and Lindsay Graham is making threats, because he DREADS being forced to answer for his seditious LIES! They cannot and WILL NOT risk a rap for Perjury, Conspiracy or WORSE! They will confess that, “the steal,” the REASON for an Insurrection, WAS A LIE! And who can Q, the Nazis, or the cult of trump, “blame,” when they hear it from the mouths of THEIR OWN LEADERS??? DEMAND THEIR TESTIMONY! And make sure others do too! ✌️👍
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kingtut : Tell me, son? Just between you and me? I promise not to leak your answer. Given that there are only two types of Trump Troll, which are you? The paid, Divider, spreading hate, because that’s the source of Donny’s power? Or, just the mentally ill type, who lives on channels he hates, spewing hate, at people he hates, because he’s permanently in pain, whether in victory, or in loss? I know your cult’s mantra is, “Make America Divided Again.” Just curious as to which type you are?
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Anel Debique : What you said to Cameron was Gold. Seriously. A life lesson. When people are leaders, from church leaders to politicians, or in any profession, note which way they lead you. If they lead, “Toward,” a positive goal, they’re usually worth listening to. It’s the ones leading you, “Away,” from things that are inherently DANGEROUS. Whether it’s, “against gays, abortion, migration,” or anything else they’re, “against,” they have a damaging agenda. People who lead TOWARD a bright future, “building,” things, like an economy, better education, improved justice, etc. What’s not to like about that? And, that rule of thumb has guided me throughout my life. Glad you said it ✌️👍
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For what it’s worth, at the bottom of thousands of comments . . . I tell you, if they force these people to testify at the Impeachment Trial, the GOP will be broken. Under oath, with no 5th Amendment to hide behind, on live TV, what can they say about, “The Steal?” That is, after all, the REASON for the Insurrection. And they cannot offer ANY, “evidence,” for, “believing,” it was a thing. Most will admit they knew it to be a lie, and the world will hear them; Q, the, “proud,” boys, and all the cult of trump, will hear the truth from the lips of those who lead them to disaster, criminal records and personal ruin. They cannot refuse to testify, and the key witnesses are the very people who lead the charge, from the back, like this guy, like Graham, Hawley, Cruz and the rest. It will be the most important event in American history, since the surrender of the Confederacy. And twice as damaging to the cult of trump. DEMAND their TESTIMONY from your representatives! Make sure to inundate them, till the trial begins! ✌️
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@devonlockwood1477 : trump fans have the mentality of battered housewives. They see it, but have turned denial into a lifestyle. They’re on that trump train till it crashes, which is why we have no choice but to derail it, for good. The trump’s are only a symptom of the disease (Fascism) but, we cannot properly cure that disease until we treat the symptom and get trumpism under control. Whatever we’ve done, no matter how benign, their response has always been to ramp up the stakes, off the scale. They have forced this on themselves. And, just like that battered housewife, no therapeutic intervention can help her until she is certain that her abusive spouse is gone for good, serving a life sentence, or gone the way of Geoffrey Epstein. And, when that time comes (to torture this analogy to its conclusion) it will be up to people like us, to ease that gun away from her temple and talk her back down from the brink. To convince them that there really is a life after trump. It may need to take a good kicking at the midterms before the Enabler Party gets that they have an Albatross in trump. But a felony conviction might save us all a lot of time and drama?
Sorry to go on so long, but you asked THE right question, to me at least. It’s the question we should all keep asking. The one that makes them REALLY squirm in the GOP: How can they not SEE IT? How long can they keep faking it? . . . ✌️👍
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Dixie flatline : Well said. It’s a technique that Putin passed on to trump, successfully used in Russia, by Putin himself and Stalin, from whom Putin learned it. The idea is not to be, “plausible.” Quite the opposite. There’s no better demonstration of raw power than to (for example) deny the moon exists, and then have your cult screaming, “There’s no moon!” at a rally, and all tweet it, as fact, the next day, while, “respectable,” news outlets keep driving the point home. Right now, it’s only disconcerting. And that’s because of the great debt we owe to real news channels for pushing back against the lies and challenging authority (which is their job) and holding the administration to account.
But, imagine just how SPINE TINGLINGLY CHILLING it would be, if ALL the news outlets agreed? Like in Stalin’s Russia? And then in Putin’s Russia? Imagine you read in your favourite paper, “The Moon Vanished,” headline? You look at it, see it’s there, but KNOW if you say that out loud, you are being, “disloyal,” to the party, or the the leader. THAT’S what it’s about. The Cultists chant trump’s lunatic assertions, enjoying the trolling of America, which makes them feel, “powerful,” in a way they never have before. And, to show that, “loyalty,” to their, “cause,” which is, at its heart, purely racism.
But, if trump is still in power after the elections, for whatever reason, you’ll be astonished (or, perhaps you’ll expect it, like me?) at how FAST CNN and MSNBC are hit with a string of scandals, resignations, court battles, firings, etc, until CNN comes under the control of a trump friendly oligarch, and MSNBC is broken up. The other stations will have less eventful resignations, scandals, etc, but, having gotten, “the message,” they’ll fall into line, and all the hosts will be pretty much new faces. And, the worst part?
When lies are ludicrous, yet stated as fact, and people are chilled and afraid, you will continue to tell the truth, making YOU not just a target for the unmarked secret police, (now consolidated into an official unit, not just volunteers bussed into Washington for trump’s peace of mind), but the people closest to you; friends, family and colleagues, will be terrified of being targeted due to their, “known association,” with you. Not only will you have to weigh their safety in the balance, but you may be shocked to discover (as so many others have already) that they have preempted coming under suspicion, by reporting you to the authorities.
And the death cry of a modern democracy, which I’ve already heard is, “Yeah, but that could never happen here.” My only answer to that is, “In 2015, if I’d predicted where we are now, would you have believed me?” If I get a, “Yeah but,” reply, I already know I’m talking to someone in denial, too afraid to contemplate what’s really happening. I don’t blame them. I’m scared too. But, I’m NOT going to my grave, wondering what difference I, “could have made?” I’m involved in my local and national politics. And suggest we ALL get involved, and remove this Clear And Present Danger?
Sorry to go on so long, but you gave me such a good (thought provoking) response, I felt you deserved a thoughtful answer ✌️👍
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Full disclosure, here: I didn’t watch the video but gave you my support (thumbs up) regardless. I’ll usually watch, but looking at these twits and, worse still, listening to their idiocy, is exhausting. I just don’t have it in me, today. Hate, racism, hysteria with a mix of nauseating greed and narcissism is not a good way to start one’s day. Please God! Let the rest of America be just as exhausted with these flouncing fools as I am? Let the 2024 election turn these people back into the floating Irrelevancies that they once were and so deserve to be; only to ever re-emerge in the news on their trial dates?
The world has got much bigger and more important matters to see to than their CONSTANTLY Past Focussed Politics! Joe Biden, whatever you think of the guy, is at least focussed on America’s present and future. That’s how and why he’s getting things DONE against all expectation and predictions. Long may he continue. Only by actually DOING stuff will America tire of these turds on the far-alt-wrong.
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Renato Valdivia : The Trumpophiles hate to hear that, but it’s the truth at the core of this problem. So, thank you for saying it. There will come a time, when even the loudest Trump Troll will not be able to deny that it was Donny’s cult who was worst hit by Trumpian theft, and the most damaged by his ploys. And, just like in Berlin, circa 1945, his base will evaporate, leaving us all astonished at being unable to find a single one of them, willing to admit they adored him. If history is our teacher, that’s the lesson in store ✌️👍
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chew itt : That is SO true, it hurts. Trump has zero, “ideology,” knowledge of history, or, “politics,” of any kind, saving what his minions are occasionally able to feed into his fumbled speeches. His one goal, after enriching himself, is to massage his own ego, period. He has learned that, for a, “man,” like him to get power, and keep it, he has but one tool at his disposal: DIVISION, of the, “Them & us,” variety. The implications of which, are playing out on our streets as I write this. America simply will not survive another term of that. Very well pointed out, sir
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bman : Yet, if you were, “confident,” of Trump’s survival, you would not be here, son? Why live on channels you hate, spewing hate, at people you hate? Paid? Or, just mentally ill? You’re obviously in doubt. But, you will gain nothing by Trolling for Trump, son. Except more pain
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Steve Flynn : It’s great to meet someone who owns their mistake and is man enough to admit it, and to grow as a human being. Lincoln himself did the exact same thing, expressing indifference toward slavery, especially when weighed against the maintenance of the Union. But, by the end of the war, he was utterly anti-slavery, and his journey to becoming a better man is one of the key reasons he’s so admired and loved by American historians. He showed us the way. He showed us how to learn and change, and have the courage to do that, by speaking out the truth of his heart. What you said there, has more meaning for me (and probably others) than you can know. I thank you, sir. Your casually expressed honesty is to me, like finding a diamond in the desert. So precious, yet ultimately, only of true value if we make it back home. That’s the most ENCOURAGING thing I’ve read in weeks. Again, with my apologies for babbling on, my thanks, sir ✌️👍
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morganne d'arcourt : Your solidarity is appreciated, and your concerns are well placed. If American Democracy falls, as it surely will, with the Republic, if Trump cheats his way through to surviving November’s elections, the democracy of every remaining country will face the might of all those combined dictatorships around the world. And, who could withstand America, China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, etc, etc, all undermining democracies? We ALL have a dog in this fight ✌️👍
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Yes, they are reassuring to me, showing that you can have, “conservative,” values, yet still be honest, respectful and committed to the good of the country and society at large, rather than simply venal blatant examples of the very thing that trump’s zombie conspiracy theorist drones claim to fear the most.
I mean, who was that guy in this video? The one saying that they, “unironically,” need to take control of the media and all the other institutions and, “force the public to believe what we believe.”??? Is he well known? Is he powerful? The higher his influence and rank in the GOP or in the, “conservative,” circles in which he moves, the more urgent I would say it is that the Dems simply take that footage and use it in every campaign! It’s a literal confession, appearing as a manifesto. A direct, unadorned call for, “dictatorship,” using that word. In any other free country that would be Check & Mate right there. Yet in America it’s somehow acceptable???
Isn’t he THE very thing that trumpliklans always claim they’re fighting against???
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R. E. Stone : If he could get away with it, Trump would piss on Lewis’s grave. The saddest part is, everyone knows it. If trump stopped being racist, in a convincing way (never gonna’ happen) he would lose his Cult of support as quickly as they found out about it. Racism is at the heart of all America’s worst problems now. And Putin, and all our other enemies know it, and used it. Trump’s, “Make America Divided Again,” campaign, only worked because he was able to exploit America’s racism. On one side, there’s all the people who didn’t want to acknowledge how bad it really was, and on the other, the racists, who mostly pretend not to be racists, while they’re busy being racists. That’s America 2020
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Dear Lincoln Project, I genuinely believe that America needs a visual aid, a symbol, to help them truly understand this Covid 19 Crisis. My suggestion is that we build a Cairn, like the ancients did? It would be cheap, and relatively simple and easy to build and, if we represent each DEAD Covid victim, with one stone each, this might help America, “get it?” Such a project would need a site to place it, and I think, so as to challenge the administration, it should be next to, or in front of a Trump owned or key Government building? It would need funding, and supervision, and someone able to place 1000 stones in a 24 hour period. I genuinely believe that such a symbol might have a significant impact on how average Americans SEE and GRASP the crisis we’re in. What do you think?
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Who was that guy saying, “Unironically, we need to take control of the press and [all the institutions] and force the people to believe what we believe and establish a dictatorship.”? Who was he?
I would say, “Well, at least he was being honest,” except, if all Americans believed what the Republiklan party believes, they would all be racist thieves who see The Handmaid’s Tale as a How To Build A Society For Dummies. In truth, he’s only being honest about the method, not the agenda. The agenda is for them to be on top with all the money and the power, and to be the very thing that all their dumb zombie conspiracy theorist followers claim to fear the most.
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