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Comments by "pplr1" (@pplr1) on "Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer" video.
In 2024 now. And Mearshiemer may be just as wrong-maybe his is refining his views but maybe not. Anyway he predicted Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine. That didn't turn out true. But Putin himself predicted he could conquer Ukraine in three weeks-Ukrainians and much of the world are glad that prediction didn't turn out true either.
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@stefan-xaverscherrer7648 Agreed. 1 other thing I appreciate. In the Q&A part of this around an hour and three or four minutes in Mearsheimer admits he doesn't know the terms of the "deal" that Putin offered Ukraine that he referred to as a great deal during his lecture.
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You mean like when he said Putin would not invade?
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For trying to come up with excuses for warmongers plus forgetting history while he does it (like claiming the Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't over missiles)?
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So accurate he managed to forget the Cuban Missile Crisis was over missiles? His claim Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine also aged so well..
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@melodysmith-kein1133 Some of the people commenting here don't want to acknowledge Putin's Imperialism because that would mean that the current war in Ukraine is not the USA's fault. It disrupts the PR being put out.
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Like when he claimed Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine?
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@zeczeci9845 Pointing out when people are making excuses for Putin and even repeating Russian propaganda is helping Ukraine.
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"denying the facts.the professor has been right everything turned out true". Well this is bs. He showed he has little understanding of history-such as missing that the Cuban missile crisis was over missiles and that the Monroe Doctrine did not hand the Americas to the USA-on the latter point notice how long Canada was part of the British Empire long after the Monroe Doctrine came around.
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Yup.
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Easy. If all these nations joined NATO it becomes harder for Russia to launch unjust invasions of them. Not being able to invade or dominate neighboring nations appears to be a horrible threat to Putin. Mearsheimer is just trying to explain that in words that obscure the truth as conveniently as possible-and at least he managed to forget the Cuban Missile Crisis was over missiles while he did it.
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@zlenkodmd " evil towards russian minority" like letting them vote in elections or speak their language while in public? The current President of Ukraine is a Russian speaker BTW. This is just Putin's PR group trying to do excuses for their boss's warmongering.
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@marceldavis5600 So Putin decided to invade Ukraine in order to seize gas and oil fields? Wouldn't be the 1st time something terrible was done over oil.
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Not really. Don't forget he said Putin wouldn't invade. He also said multiple other things that weren't true.
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Not really. He claimed Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine (was supposedly "too smart"). Didn't turn out that way. Mearshiemer has also forgotten that the Monroe Doctrine was not some mark of US control over the Americas (never caused British never give up Canada). And not noticing the Cuban Missile Crisis was over missiles revealed that Mearshiemer is pretty bad at history.
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JCDenton3 "He was accurate with Monroe doctrine" no he wasn't. To Mearsheimer the Monroe Doctrine is the US establishing a sphere of influence, not trying to limit how many other nations-including empires-are already active in what Mearsheimer would describe as a US sphere of influence. You're trying to put forward a more accurate description as his when he did not. The USA has been hostile to Cuba for a long time, however that is also not the direct cause of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Additionally Cuba and the USA maintained a hostility towards each other long after the Cuban Missile Crisis was over. I know Castro could've taken a different direction. Same is true for Ho Chi Minh. That is reason to question or criticize some of the historical decisions made as part of US foreign policy. However that history does not unmake Mearsheimer's failures when it comes to describing history.
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Yes, and when Mearsheimer comes up with excuses for Putin now it looks even more ironic. At least Mearsheimer told us Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine so we can no that didn't come to pass.
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"It's never about democracy, it's all about resources." Actually Putin and Mearshiemer revealed it is about both. I a latter debate (where someone could directly question his claims) Mearshiemer admitted that Putin resents the USA for that Ukraine can have honest elections (democracy). Thus Putin wants to put a stop to democracy in Ukraine in addition to taking its resources as fuel for his imperialism.
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@EndIsAtHand Focusing on its own resources would make Russia a lot of money but would be a distraction from Putin's Imperialistic goals. So while most people in Russia would probably benefit if that happened it doesn't fit Putin's plans.
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@不染铅华 Odd you make that remark while the current war at hand is a war stated by Putin-someone who is suppressing "peaceful protest" and "human rights" at home.
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@Damn6real Ukraine has had fair elections for the last 2 Presidential Elections, Russia has not. Your complaint does not contradict his point.
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@aneurindavies5943 '"War is Never Fought for Freedom; It is Always Fought for the Rich" Maj General Smedley-Butler.' And Putin may be lending something to that argument. Due to his corruption Putin is very rich (billionaire) and he started this war for multiple reasons-1 of which includes suppressing the freedoms of Ukrainians so he sure is not fighting for freedom.
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@不染铅华 And you probably speak wrongly. Chinese people in Taiwan are typically much better off than in mainland China. Mainland China is both much more corrupt (which is not efficient) and also not a democracy. Meanwhile Taiwan is a democracy and has much better living standards.
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@GeneralSteinberg Russia has not had hones elections in a long time. Yes they pretend to have elections but not only are Russian elections frequently rigged but people who pose a real challenge to Putin risk getting jailed, killed, or both.
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Lol. The guy was wrong about the implications for the Monroe Doctrine and wrong about missiles being the reason for the Cuban Missile Crisis. He proved he wasn't good at history. Considering he also said Putin would not attack Ukraine he showed his predictions are that great either.
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@Beelzebubba2024 He said Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine. That isn't what happened. Though perhaps he is correct to say attacking Ukraine would "wreck" Russia. Perhaps Putin's Imperialism really isn't good for the Russian economy.
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Because in this situation that would be yet another lie, he is already full up on those. Putin's warmongering is about trying to restart imperialism.
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You mean you agree with Mearsheimer when he claimed Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine?
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Yes, I guess he was making up excuses for Putin's activities even back then. Do appreciate how he managed to forget that the Cuban Missile Crisis was over missiles as he did so.
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The was decades ago and Mearsheimer is actually okay with it-after all Spheres of Influence is kind of his thing. That's why it is supposedly a bad thing if Ukraine has an elected government and the elected government doesn't want to do whatever Putin tells it.
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@karry299 Romania and Moldova both still have elected governments. There is currently a widespread belief by people in Georgia that the sitting political party rigged the last election and is currently illegitimate. What are you on about?
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Like when he said Putin would not invade Ukraine?
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