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Comments by "pplr1" (@pplr1) on "Why I Left The Left + My Woke University" video.
@paulrobinson3213 So you were there during Rome's fall and saw the fixation with "gender ideology"? Now I'd guess invading barbarian tribes and Ottomans had more to do with it-but maybe that is just me.
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@MetalManiac1911 Cities are where States and everywhere else makes money pretty much. Outside of having a bunch of goldmines in the hinterlands if the cities break the rural areas will be in for a depression.
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@urbansetter1 Also the USA is still doing pretty well. Economically we have a bit of an inflation problem but most people who want jobs can still get them. At some point Cuba or Venezuela may become an actual headache but even if that happens it isn't like either could invade.
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"what we don’t have is the right to make up facts" I suspect that is what Misha did in this video. Yes, I figure she is probably lying to viewers. A math class that does not talk about facts or numbers but just feelings? Really??
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If none of it happened is it really escaping tyranny? No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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It does. But don't forget that on youtube people are allowed to lie. I suspect Misha is doing just that. The right lies may stir up emotions. Those emotions can get people to send money or give votes. And yes, I very much and very honestly doubt what Misha claims happened actually did. A math class that never talked about facts or numbers? Really?? Now an interesting thing is I've heard the argument some people in politics do stuff like what you describe-stir up feelings about minor issues or situations that don't exist. That gives them a way to argue people should vote for them so they can fight against the imaginary problem rather than actually accomplish something. Anyway, good on you for watching a video having to critical thinking to start questioning if it actually shows what is going on the USA or even represents a real concern.
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Its good you want people to respect all. I'd recommend adding 1 other thing to your thought process. People-and they can be on either side or none-can lie. I strongly suspect that is what Misha is doing in the video here. A math class that didn't have facts or numbers? Really??
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I know somebody who actually joined a cult. He was born a few years before me. Don't assume age prevents you from signing on to something bad. In this case I'm pretty sure Misha is lying. A math class where they don't talk about number/facts? Really??
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Not just race. She is probably lying to condemn her age group too. Yes lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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I suspect she is lying about what happened in the video. For example, that she supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class? Really?? So asking for a name would probably get her to either make a name up or lie about a college or university that does exist.
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If she is allowed to lie on youtube her freedom of speech is not in danger. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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@x_asp3x_x Thank you for acknowledging both a challenge and asking for evidence. It can come from at least 2 sources. 1 what she said. 2 me & my experiences. 3 if you know anyone who is actually in college in the USA now or recently. Possibly a 4 if you count national news reports. For 1, instead of assuming what she said is accurate listen to the specific things she claimed happened and ask if that sounds realistic. She claimed this happened in every class (was therefor planned/orchestrated) including math class but lacked facts thus numbers. Like I said before, it is not common for numbers to not come up in a math class. If anything the opposite is often true. She said all they talked about was "feelings" yet in actual situations where discrimination is a topic specific facts are brought up. With the USA it would include that slavery was practiced in the past-a fact. After slavery was ended there was a time period when governments of politically conservative southern states began imposing "Jim Crow" lows to prevent former slaves and their descendants from having the full rights most citizens should have. Later, and in more states, there were bans on certain groups of people from moving into specific neighborhoods-these bans could come in the form of houses having contract attached to them requiring that only people of specific religion or skin color could purchase the house-another fact. There are more but essentially if there was an actual attempt to discuss the history of discrimination in the USA-where she is saying she is from-there are a long list of facts people could discuss. And she claims that not only were these events orchestrated in all of her classes but in none of them did the teacher start discussing a list of facts that could be expected to be part of the discussion. The combination of claims of orchestration ("all" of her classes) yet no facts in them (despite there being facts to discuss) are both relatively unlikely. Plus they contradict. Why plan enough to have this discussion in each class yet not plan enough to bring up any of a list of available and relevant facts? The odds of 1 of these on its own are low but both at the same time?? Very unlikely. On 2, I've took a couple of courses at a tech college in recent years. In my classes what she described did not happen. My own experiences contradict the narrative she claims. I've taken a math class within the last few years and it had more numbers than I can remember. The other classes focused on their subjects. 3, do you know anyone in college in the USA right now? If so ask them if they have seen a similar event where these discussions were supposedly both orchestrated for all of their classes and lacked any facts that were brought up. 4. If you look at US news reports do a search on things like book bans. Some of the books being banned discuss bigotry and unfairness as a topic they bring up. Odd that students would be banned from reading books in a library relating to these topics but the same topics are supposedly being forced on students no matter if it is in their classes's studies or not.
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I strongly suspect she lied through most of the video. Especially where she claimed her math class didn't discuss facts or numbers but feelings. Is lying to viewers part of "good work"?
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Maybe. Though keep in mind not talking about it in history class (which usually doesn't happen anyway) isn't likely to make the issue go away. When I went into a store the guy behind the counter asked me to leave my bag. As an apology he told me he would only it only to black people but management wanted hi to do it to everyone. If there are people like-not many but I guess because I spoke to him in person then there could be a few old people that haven't given up on only letting black people rent in some areas of town but not others (the creating or continuing segregation). Now I think that is breaking down-making things more fair and less about skin color. But then there is still the problem of if segregation should be lied about in US history class because it is 1 of those things that did happen even if it is not seen as a good thing now. Also, on this video in specific I figure Misha is probably lying to viewers. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened. So her video is probably not a good indication of what is happening in colleges these days.
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Now here is a catch. Did something like that happen in a math class? I suspect not. Which is why I also suspect that Misha here is lying. On the chromosome thing-was the teacher just being foolish or was there some complex argument about XXY people or something? Either way I feel I am allowed to disagree with how people make up labels.
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Or a liar. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too.
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"it’s all catered to feelings and agendas" That may be why she made this video. To cater to feelings. I strong suspect she is lying through most of it. A math class with no facts or numbers? Really?? This young woman's claims do not pass a smell test.
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But is it spoken honestly or not? The claim that a that math class supposedly focused on feelings and not facts or numbers struck me as outlandish. The more I though about that and much of the rest of the video the more I realized that there is a good chance most of it never happened.
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She is probably lying through most of the video. A math class that supposedly didn't talk facts or numbers? Just feelings? Really?? The claim strikes me as ridiculous and probably never happened. Remember when I youtube there is no promise the people on it are correct-or even honest.
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Its also probably a lie. A math class that supposedly didn't talk facts or numbers? Just feelings? Really?? The claim strikes me as ridiculous and probably never happened. Remember when I youtube there is no promise the people on it are correct-or even honest.
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You are on youtube right now, don't believe everything you see. If you really came here from a communist nation like Cuba go outside, breath the air, and know that if you become a citizen you can actually vote in an election and you can also practice a religion without getting arrested. Back to youtube, I like it a lot and get a lot of enjoyment from it plus even learned things from it when people put videos on it like how to repair stuff. But youtube is also loaded with political propaganda. Which means it has plenty of lies. I'm pretty sure Misha here is part of that problem and very strongly doubt much of what she complained about actually happened to her. I'm not even sure she went to college. Apply a bit of critical thinking about the chances of some of the things she claimed happened. Such as a math class where they did not talk about facts/numbers but only feelings supposedly? Really?? I doubt it.
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"the racism of black people in France" What class was this and what college? Was your degree in gender studies or something?
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Misha or the commenters on the video? I'm suspect Misha is following a script. And I very strongly suspect she is lying (as she does). Think about it. A math class with no facts or numbers? Really?? This is youtube and on youtube people are allowed to lie into a camera.
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More likely she realized she can lie on youtube. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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Listening to factual news is a good idea. Sadly many people don't know if they are watching people that lie to them or not. I strongly suspect the woman in this video is lying to her viewers. For example, she claimed she had a math class that had no facts or numbers just people's feelings. That strikes me as ridiculous and basically putting out a lie-perhaps either for sympathy or to push politics.
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Not for me. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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The USA is probably doing better these days than Italy-not that I want Italy to do badly but Italians seem to have a shortage of kids and when I visited the drivers did things people in the USA would think of as insane. Most Italian people I've spoken to are great people. Also if you are watching this political PR video then the youtube software is probably looping you into other political propaganda videos that are trying to scare US voters or convince them of their own victimhood regardless of what the facts are. I'm older than a typical college student but I've taken a few classes as part of expanding my work possibilities. There was a guy who said women aren't mistreated in my class and nobody cancelled him and I fully expect to see him being 1 of the more talkative people next class as usual. Oddly enough only time I got a trigger warning in that class is when the teacher warned us 1 of the 3 theories we were going to discuss when talking about something was Marxist theory or that it would be brought up. BTW I wasn't trying to rip on Italian driving earlier but I was surprised when I saw 7 Italians in moving vehicles driving side by side both directions in a road with 4 lanes. In the USA traffic laws are usually followed more than that.
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@urbansetter1 Unless you are referring to someone asking if someone else is gay out of wanting to insult them or just being curious because of their voice I've never actually seen something like that happen in person and I've lived in a city the majority of my life. I know there are some software programs out there that let you enter it with the rest of your personal info but I think I can argue software programs are usually not considered real life.
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@anthonykostelnik3148 I'm guessing you cannot debunk a single thing I said so this is your weak response in hopes I don't notice you haven't said anything while pretending to have said something.
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@Leodachef1 Have you checked out the national news this past week? Gender ideology is not what national leaders are talking about right now.
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@ARDDDDD11 Lol.
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More likely to steal US technology. Some people have already been caught doing that. However I wouldn't buy what Misha claims that quickly. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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I didn't know that being able to lie into a camera was part of empowerment. And yes, I bet she is lying. A math class with no facts or numbers? Really??
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She may be paid to make these videos. Or she may have just decide to make them hoping someone who notice her and send her sympathy. Either way people lie for a wide range of reasons. I'm very strongly suspect she is lying. A math class with no facts/numbers? Really??
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School should be to teach. That is why many are complaining about them-they may teach too well. I'm pretty sure Misha here is lying about what happened at her college.. if she went to college in the 1st place. Watch her video and apply a bit of critical thinking about the chances of some of the things she claimed happened. Such as a math class where they did not talk about facts/numbers but only feelings supposedly. Doesn't sound like any math class I've been in-possibly ever. Plus that this supposedly happened in every class? Really?? I expect someone may well have wanted Misha to lie. It is probably whoever wrote the script for this video. Don't forget that this is youtube. And on youtube there is not much stopping people from lying to a camera if they feel like it-or are paid to. Don't get me wrong, I like youtube a lot and probably visit it most weeks. But I've known for years not to believe everything some people claim on it.
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Don't let this video get you bent out of shape. I strongly suspect the woman in the video is simply lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too.
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I strongly suspect the woman in the video is lying about most of the things she claimed she experienced (starting with the claim they talked about "feelings" rather than facts or numbers in math class). What does it say that many people watched this video and didn't think critically for a moment. Was it made to inflict "emotional terrorism" or coddling?
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Figuring out she can be dishonest on youtube is not new. People have done it for years now. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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People have lied to each other for a long time. That people have figured out how to do it on youtube is just a modern update. Yes, she is probably lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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People have lied to each other for a long time. That people have figured out how to do it on youtube is just a modern update. Yes, she is probably lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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Most people aren't historian enough to get the reference nor care that much. And those who do know history probably know just enough to remember something about Africans and the slave trade.
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Who says she was ever in. The more I think about what she said the more likely I think she was lying. For example, that she supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class? I doubt that happened. If she was lying about that how much of the rest of the video was she lying about. My guess is a lot.
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That is funny. I figured she was probably just lying about what happened. Yeah, the woman in the video is probably lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too. But is she lied about her name or gender that makes it funnier. Good catch.
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Sounds like you're European. What nation?
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Which college and what exactly were your experiences? I strongly suspect she is lying through most of the video and probably never had most of the experiences she claims-such as a math class that never talked about facts or numbers but feelings.
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Or the woman in the video is simply lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too. So avoiding campuses would probably paranoia or deception put into action.
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I wonder Misha gets paid to put out videos like this to make older rightwing people feel better regardless of what the facts are. Usually when I talk to people when there is a disagreement online if people bother to discuss facts it is usually the leftwing people who come closer to them. For example, are most of the 10 states with the worst murder rates Red States or Blue States and why is the crime rate in them so bad?
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Feel free to anti-woke. But keep in mind must of what she was probably a lie Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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Well, I strongly suspect she is lying in a youtube video to people. That is pretty misguided in itself. Yes, I'll bet she is lying. A math class with no facts or numbers? Really??
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True. Though most of what she claimed probably never happened. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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But did this happen in highschool or college? The claim that a that math class supposedly focused on feelings and not facts or numbers struck me as outlandish. The more I though about that and much of the rest of the video the more I realized that there is a good chance most of it never happened.
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I strongly suspect she is lying about what happened in the video. For example, that she supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class? Really?? So asking for a name would probably get her to either make a name up or lie about a college or university that does exist.
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Thing is she is probably lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too.
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So you watched a youtube video where the young woman probably lied to you a bunch of times. It happens. Youtube generally does not stop people from lying in the videos they put out. So that is what we have here. If you watched a bunch of other videos where people were also dishonest that doesn't actually give you a good spot to judge how things are. See if you can find someplace else for your info where there is more honesty.
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What state are you in and what was the issue? I'm pretty sure Misha is lying. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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@elsadunand208 Nice to meet you. What was the issue you and your friends had a disagreement over? Also keep in mind that this youtube is aimed at US internal politics-which is why it is probably very dishonest. Free speech is a good thing, but keep in mind that in the USA its been taken to mean it is legally acceptable for people to blatantly lie and it is up to voters to figure out who (or if everyone) is lying and about what.
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Since what she described likely did not happen it is less relevant than you'd think. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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A lot of people are political and a lot of people are not. Since a college is (at least in the USA) supposed to show a wide range of thoughts it probably is a loss if nobody brought up politics in the UK.
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1 other thing, you are on youtube. A lot of political actors like to make commentary on youtube and this particular woman is just 1 of many. I strongly suspect she is among the dishonest ones since her claims struck more as both false and outlandish. For example, the claim that a that math class supposedly focused on feelings and not facts or numbers?? The more I though about that and much of the rest of the video the more I realized that there is a good chance most of it never happened.
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Yeah, Germany does have certain past involving Jewish people. That said be aware in pro-free speech USA that people can lie in politics and it is up to others to figure out if they are lying or not. I think Misha is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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I strongly suspect the woman in the video is lying to viewers. The notion that they talked about "feelings" in math class with no facts or numbers struck me as an outlandish claim. The more I thought about the rest of what she said the more I began to suspect most of it is not true as well. What would the younger generation think of the older generation if when they grow up they look at it and see it was easily manipulated by lies?
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If most of the stuff she said never happened then it probably is not a fact. It is telling something else though. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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Or more likely she one more person that realized you can lie on youtube. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened. If you go back to whatever university you went to you'll probably find it is not that different from before.
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Did you catch that the woman in the video is probably lying to viewers. For example, that she supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class? Really?? So before assuming this is part of a trend it would probably be good to ask if such a trend exists and, even if it does, is it being massively overblown by political alarmists?
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Probably never occurred. Yes, I think she is lying. No facts or numbers in a math class? Really?? The more I think about most of what she said the less I think it happened.
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Or the woman in the video is simply lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too.
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The kind that probably tells her lying to people is ok. Yeah, the woman in the video is probably lying. The claim that they supposedly talked about "feelings" but not facts or numbers in math class convinced me of that. The more I thought about the rest of what she said beyond that the more likely it seemed to me that was probably made up too.
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Seeming sincere and being sincere can be 2 different things. As for being reported by others the guy watching this video and likely falling for her act himself said he did not see what she claimed happening in his classes. So actually other people's experiences contradict her claims rather than support them.
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@Philosophy-Forum FYI I learned about this video from someone who didn't watch it with a critical or questioning eye like I did. RFL Jojo did a video of him watching it and routinely agreeing with her even though he admitted his teachers never did what she claimed. So that is who I referred to as falling for her act despite his own experiences contradicting her claims.
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@Philosophy-Forum Let me get this straight. Someone who likes her admits that he saw the opposite in person of what she claimed and recognizing that means I'm supposedly a "hypocrite"?? That is pretty rich. Sounds like you're unhappy I did "pay attention". Would that make you something of a "hypocrite"?
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Or the events she was dishonest with her claims? The claim that a that math class supposedly focused on feelings and not facts or numbers struck me as outlandish. The more I though about that and much of the rest of the video the more I realized that there is a good chance most of it never happened.
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@eronsentertainmentstore6487 And what classes and subjects are those? FYI I ended up finding her video by watching the video of another guy who claims to be in college now and has teachers that teach their subjects (contradicting her) but he believes her anyway. I graduated high school years ago but took some tech school classes within the past 2 years and found my teachers taught their subjects. Based on what I saw in person, what someone else saw in person (even if he fell for her act-and I do suspect it is an act), what is supposed to happen in general, and how ridiculous her claims got that odds are high she made up what she is claiming to have been through or somebody else made it up and she just went over the script well enough that she could remember it while talking into a camera.
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Or were her claims largely lies? For example, the claim that a that math class supposedly focused on feelings and not facts or numbers struck me as outlandish. The more I though about that and much of the rest of the video the more I realized that there is a good chance most of it never happened.
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Yeah, strongly suspect the woman in the video is lying to viewers. I at the moment I doubt it is satire, which would potentially be an improvement o what it is.
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