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I have to call bs on a lot of things in this video. I watched the whole thing and it deserves a thumbs down by the end. I noted some reasons and about when they pop up in the video.
The video seems to be confused by saying both do __ when “inverse” is the opposite. It starts recognizing their differences and then tries to pretend they are the same. Problem is that is not true.
Daenerys freed many slaves, how many did Cersei?
4:40-recognizes Daenerys freed people while Cersei oppressed.
Also recognized that Daenerys chained her dragons out of concern for others while Cersei let Joffery run rampant.
5:45 be like Daenerys try to reshape the world in a better way and “help those who have even less”
5:58 Cersei “hurts others for the hell of it” and chooses not to help others.
7:31-45 Cersei hates and fears the people
8:40 Cersei threatens to burn cities
9:35 video said “This is fire and blood music”, yet it ignores when Daenerys said the blood of her enemies “not the innocent”.
10:00 video blames Daenerys for her dead baby by being too trusting, there is a big difference between too trusting and Cersei choosing to kill her son’s wife (resulting in the son’s suicide).
10:10 video misrepresent’s Cersei’s letter upfront demand (and threatening?) and Daenerys more friendly letter-written by Tyrion (who wants help ending Cersei’s tyranny.) The video claims after the friendly letter Daenerys demands Jon bend the knee when he gets there and thus is supposedly more dishonest. Yet Daenerys-when Jon refuses to bend the knee-said he is a guest. Oh, and Tyrion-not Daenerys-wrote the letter, he tends to be nicer than Cersei. Actually they both tend to be nicer than Cersei.
10:24 video wrongly claims Cersei wants less from Jon than Daenerys by supposedly only asking for neutrality. Yet this is a blatant lie. We learn afterwards that Cersei had made a plan beforehand with Euron to have Euron pretend he was fleeing when he was really getting mercenaries for Cersei. She never planned to help and the whole eventual agreement to send Lannister forces was an act and big lie. If anything Cersei was trying to cost Daenerys a possible ally since it was unlikely Jon would ever ally with her.
10:50 the video shows Cersei saying she doesn’t care about checking her worst impulses or making the world a better place. It actually has gone back to recognizing Cersei.
10:55 claims Daenerys’s attempts at compromise don’t go well so she goes fire and blood. Very misleading because Daenerys tried compromises and used fire and blood when those compromises were betrayed. Daenerys is not responsible for when others betray or try to attack her-they are. The video tries to say she is.
11:50 self-centered world vision ignores that Daenerys built what she had but also tried to do it in a way that didn’t harm, even helped, the powerless. Remember season 4 when Daenerys had places to sleep and eat made for former slaves and planned to make them safe the minute she heard there was a problem. Very different than Cersei who would not care.
12:09 Cersei talks about caring about her family yet she tried to have Tyrion killed-he is part of her family. This video is ignoring things here. Selective editing?
12:29 The video looses its point when complaining about “medieval logic”. That is how society operated at the time. Neither Cersei nor Daenerys made that happen. And if complaining about them then complain about every member of a every noble family in the show. It is called a “social norm”.
12:51 Daenerys’s supposed complex resulted in her telling someone she cared about not to give up but to try finding a cure-and he did. Thus she told him to save his life when he had already given up. Not a bad thing.
13:01 Daenerys supposedly didn’t compromise?? She did that with Jon Snow in season 7 through most of the time he was her guest!! She did that in Meereen as well. This video is just wrong here-possibly dishonest.
13:19 “Daenerys is ruthless like Cersei”. No. She is ruthless with her enemies, but not the innocent. If Cersei had dragons she would’ve let them eat innocent people across the countryside. Daenerys did not. Big false equivalence.
13:20 She was talking to a guy, Varys, who had tried to undermine his prior leaders and thus didn’t trust him. When he told her just beforehand he would not give blind loyalty she accepted it. Requiring him to say directly if he thought she was failing the people to her face and how (shows she is willing to take criticism). This is both compromising and taking other people’s concerns into account. The opposite of what the video claimed earlier.
13:33 video said they look like each other Cersei in black (or dark cloths) and with crown, Daenerys in light tan and no crown. Someone can see the video is wrong or lying here. Oh, and it is right before Cersei killed Missandei-who never hurt or enslaved anyone.
13:36 Video said “Shared rage” when look on Daenerys’s face may be concern for Missandei. The video is wrong here.
13:50 Video claimed Daenerys didn’t choose between her “selfish ambition” and her “liberator identity”. Yet the main reason she stayed in Meereen so long (where video shows her) is to protect the people she freed rather than leave to grab her birth kingdom and let the slavers regain control. She delayed her ambitions-that is making a choice. The video is lying here and similar can be said about the white walker army which she goes to fight and puts her war for the throne on hold to do.
14:10 Cersei is shown using civilians as human shields. Daenerys didn’t ever do this. These are very different queens and the video is being deceptive.
14:31 Daenerys saying “I will not let those I have freed slide back into chains.” Anyone see Cersei saying or trying to do that? Nope. Different people.
15:44 We get the answer of D and D breaking Daenerys’s character to do a pre-selected plot point. This was not showing Daenerys but what D and D wanted her to do without providing good reasons for it.
15:50 If Daenerys chose “violence” then why not go directly to the red keep and burn Cersei like she would an enemy? D and D chose to make Daenerys let Cersei almost get away in order to attack civilians. This is out of character for Daenerys in 2 big ways-her protection of the innocent and her fire for her enemies. This goes against 2 not just 1 aspect of Daenerys’s character.
16:05 If Daenerys was punishing her enemies then why almost let Cersei get away? Cersei didn’t care about civilians so why burn them at all?
16:52 If belonging to that blood line means you flip out and kill everyone if your friends aren’t around should we expect that to happen with Jon Snow? If the answer is no then just maybe we shouldn’t accept the character breaking relating to Daenerys from D and D either.
17:02 repeating D and D’s weak excuses is not character development. Showing the death of someone she warned earlier that chose to pull a sword and threaten to kill her and her unborn child is not proving Daenerys is evil. This is a huge double standard. Just consider anyone in the whole series who would want someone that just threatened to murder them and their children dead-lets start with the Stark family. If they aren’t evil tyrants in the making than neither is Daenerys.
17:25 If Daenerys’s friends and advisors are killed or go distant that isn’t usually Daenerys’s choice. Which means she had no choice and this was supposedly inevitable. So the video isn’t being straight with viewers on if this was going to happen or not.
17:40. Video said “We always have a choice”, not if D and D choose to break characters and patterns of action to hit their preferred plot points. Lets let Daenerys character as it was during seasons 1-7 (season 8 was written to give excuses for this to happen, its been acknowledged that D and D had this event in mind and were trying to jump to it) make the decision on what happens with King’s Landing.. oh look no mass burning of civilians.
18:00 She doesn’t become the “mad queen” because of her genes. Wasn’t the video just referring to her bloodline a couple of minutes earlier?? This is speaking out of both sides of its mouth.
18:10 Correction.. She could’ve still been the ruler she wanted to be if D and D didn’t mess with her character in Season 8.
Also if she decided to attack Kings Landing in season 7 then that would be choosing violence but a lot of her friends would still be alive after Cersei was dead, so the civilian population would probably be quite safe. I guess the real message is violence is only ok if your friends are around. Or maybe, just maybe, the video here is just trying to make excuses at this point.
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I don't have time to go through the whole video today but I'm 5 minutes in and already see a problem. TIK seems to have confused getting rid of unions with privatizing industries. The Nazis didn't just consolidate unions into the DAF but killed former union leaders, banned unions as a whole, and didn't require the DAF to let workers pick who ran the DAF nor choose what its goals are. Unions generally get to vote in their own heads (at least in the Local I've seen). Hitler murdering labor leaders and replacing them with his henchmen is not the same thing having labor unions for workers. The DAF was an organization for Hitler and the Nazis, not for workers. Unions are bodies of workers, elected by workers, that are supposed to have the goals of workers in mind.
TIK followed up with complaints by factory owners that they weren't free anymore and while it is quite possible they ran into problems with the Nazis and their henchmen deciding things that is probably still a step above union leaders that were killed or sent to concentration camps. People whom TIK did not mention.
Why bring up factory owners when the focus of that point is on workers and unions? Is TIK confusing nationalizing an industry which means the ownership of a business becomes that of the government even though people who work for a government organization (its employees) aren't owners and sometimes form unions to protect their own interests and concerns?
I don't know if TIK's intention is to confuses viewers or to use a red hearing to distract them-TIKs intent could be distraction and thus be dishonest or it could not be and thus be totally honest that is intent and I do not know his at this time. But, regardless of intention, he certainly did not address the issue.
Regardless of if organizations are privately owned or run by the government the employees sometimes form unions to look after their interests and concerns. It is how workers protect themselves and ensure good or at least fair treatment of themselves by an organization. So even if Hitler outright seized control over a business-thus giving owners even more reason to complain-that doesn't cover or explain how employees and the organizations that represent them were banned.
I don't know if TIK was trying to do a bait and switch on purpose, if he confused himself, or if what he read confused him over the issue at hand. But I can say there was an issue raised within the 1st 5 minutes of the video and he failed to address it even though this video is presented as him addressing the criticisms of a video made about one of his earlier videos.
I haven't yet seen his earlier video nor a video critical of it. From the audio it sounds like a couple of young guys-likely either college or high school level-so I honestly expect them to miss more things or get it more wrong simply because they are younger and perhaps not as well studied. I can see TIK is an older (but not old) man so I would expect him to be more detailed simply because of age and the expected maturity often related to it.
In perhaps a way that is arguably similar is my understanding that China also bans labor unions. It has its own Chinese Communist Party controlled organization that is supposedly filling their place but unlike unions as practiced where I come from the leaders in that organization are not elected and the goals for the organization are not put forwards by the workers. So workers in China don't have unions and perhaps China's government is similar to the Nazis in a way that many people don't realize.
Political henchmen being put in charge are not proof of nor a counter claim to either Socialism or Capitalism. But they are evidence that the concerns of workers may not be the goals of the organization thus the organization is not a real workers' union.
PS My apologies for a long comment-sometimes I get repetitive or long winded in a comment, but I am highlighting something that I noticed.
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I have to call bs on a lot of things in this video. I watched the whole thing and it deserves a thumbs down by the end. I noted some reasons and about when they pop up in the video.
The video seems to be confused by saying both do __ when “inverse” is the opposite. It starts recognizing their differences and then tries to pretend they are the same. Problem is that is not true.
Daenerys freed many slaves, how many did Cersei?
4:40-recognizes Daenerys freed people while Cersei oppressed.
Also recognized that Daenerys chained her dragons out of concern for others while Cersei let Joffery run rampant.
5:45 be like Daenerys try to reshape the world in a better way and “help those who have even less”
5:58 Cersei “hurts others for the hell of it” and chooses not to help others.
7:31-45 Cersei hates and fears the people
8:40 Cersei threatens to burn cities
9:35 video said “This is fire and blood music”, yet it ignores when Daenerys said the blood of her enemies “not the innocent”.
10:00 video blames Daenerys for her dead baby by being too trusting, there is a big difference between too trusting and Cersei choosing to kill her son’s wife (resulting in the son’s suicide).
10:10 video misrepresent’s Cersei’s letter upfront demand (and threatening?) and Daenerys more friendly letter-written by Tyrion (who wants help ending Cersei’s tyranny.) The video claims after the friendly letter Daenerys demands Jon bend the knee when he gets there and thus is supposedly more dishonest. Yet Daenerys-when Jon refuses to bend the knee-said he is a guest. Oh, and Tyrion-not Daenerys-wrote the letter, he tends to be nicer than Cersei. Actually they both tend to be nicer than Cersei.
10:24 video wrongly claims Cersei wants less from Jon than Daenerys by supposedly only asking for neutrality. Yet this is a blatant lie. We learn afterwards that Cersei had made a plan beforehand with Euron to have Euron pretend he was fleeing when he was really getting mercenaries for Cersei. She never planned to help and the whole eventual agreement to send Lannister forces was an act and big lie. If anything Cersei was trying to cost Daenerys a possible ally since it was unlikely Jon would ever ally with her.
10:50 the video shows Cersei saying she doesn’t care about checking her worst impulses or making the world a better place. It actually has gone back to recognizing Cersei.
10:55 claims Daenerys’s attempts at compromise don’t go well so she goes fire and blood. Very misleading because Daenerys tried compromises and used fire and blood when those compromises were betrayed. Daenerys is not responsible for when others betray or try to attack her-they are. The video tries to say she is.
11:50 self-centered world vision ignores that Daenerys built what she had but also tried to do it in a way that didn’t harm, even helped, the powerless. Remember season 4 when Daenerys had places to sleep and eat made for former slaves and planned to make them safe the minute she heard there was a problem. Very different than Cersei who would not care.
12:09 Cersei talks about caring about her family yet she tried to have Tyrion killed-he is part of her family. This video is ignoring things here. Selective editing?
12:29 The video looses its point when complaining about “medieval logic”. That is how society operated at the time. Neither Cersei nor Daenerys made that happen. And if complaining about them then complain about every member of a every noble family in the show. It is called a “social norm”.
12:51 Daenerys’s supposed complex resulted in her telling someone she cared about not to give up but to try finding a cure-and he did. Thus she told him to save his life when he had already given up. Not a bad thing.
13:01 Daenerys supposedly didn’t compromise?? She did that with Jon Snow in season 7 through most of the time he was her guest!! She did that in Meereen as well. This video is just wrong here-possibly dishonest.
13:19 “Daenerys is ruthless like Cersei”. No. She is ruthless with her enemies, but not the innocent. If Cersei had dragons she would’ve let them eat innocent people across the countryside. Daenerys did not. Big false equivalence.
13:20 She was talking to a guy, Varys, who had tried to undermine his prior leaders and thus didn’t trust him. When he told her just beforehand he would not give blind loyalty she accepted it. Requiring him to say directly if he thought she was failing the people to her face and how (shows she is willing to take criticism). This is both compromising and taking other people’s concerns into account. The opposite of what the video claimed earlier.
13:33 video said they look like each other Cersei in black (or dark cloths) and with crown, Daenerys in light tan and no crown. Someone can see the video is wrong or lying here. Oh, and it is right before Cersei killed Missandei-who never hurt or enslaved anyone.
13:36 Video said “Shared rage” when look on Daenerys’s face may be concern for Missandei. The video is wrong here.
13:50 Video claimed Daenerys didn’t choose between her “selfish ambition” and her “liberator identity”. Yet the main reason she stayed in Meereen so long (where video shows her) is to protect the people she freed rather than leave to grab her birth kingdom and let the slavers regain control. She delayed her ambitions-that is making a choice. The video is lying here and similar can be said about the white walker army which she goes to fight and puts her war for the throne on hold to do.
14:10 Cersei is shown using civilians as human shields. Daenerys didn’t ever do this. These are very different queens and the video is being deceptive.
14:31 Daenerys saying “I will not let those I have freed slide back into chains.” Anyone see Cersei saying or trying to do that? Nope. Different people.
15:44 We get the answer of D and D breaking Daenerys’s character to do a pre-selected plot point. This was not showing Daenerys but what D and D wanted her to do without providing good reasons for it.
15:50 If Daenerys chose “violence” then why not go directly to the red keep and burn Cersei like she would an enemy? D and D chose to make Daenerys let Cersei almost get away in order to attack civilians. This is out of character for Daenerys in 2 big ways-her protection of the innocent and her fire for her enemies. This goes against 2 not just 1 aspect of Daenerys’s character.
16:05 If Daenerys was punishing her enemies then why almost let Cersei get away? Cersei didn’t care about civilians so why burn them at all?
16:52 If belonging to that blood line means you flip out and kill everyone if your friends aren’t around should we expect that to happen with Jon Snow? If the answer is no then just maybe we shouldn’t accept the character breaking relating to Daenerys from D and D either.
17:02 repeating D and D’s weak excuses is not character development. Showing the death of someone she warned earlier that chose to pull a sword and threaten to kill her and her unborn child is not proving Daenerys is evil. This is a huge double standard. Just consider anyone in the whole series who would want someone that just threatened to murder them and their children dead-lets start with the Stark family. If they aren’t evil tyrants in the making than neither is Daenerys.
17:25 If Daenerys’s friends and advisors are killed or go distant that isn’t usually Daenerys’s choice. Which means she had no choice and this was supposedly inevitable. So the video isn’t being straight with viewers on if this was going to happen or not.
17:40. Video said “We always have a choice”, not if D and D choose to break characters and patterns of action to hit their preferred plot points. Lets let Daenerys character as it was during seasons 1-7 (season 8 was written to give excuses for this to happen, its been acknowledged that D and D had this event in mind and were trying to jump to it) make the decision on what happens with King’s Landing.. oh look no mass burning of civilians.
18:00 She doesn’t become the “mad queen” because of her genes. Wasn’t the video just referring to her bloodline a couple of minutes earlier?? This is speaking out of both sides of its mouth.
18:10 Correction.. She could’ve still been the ruler she wanted to be if D and D didn’t mess with her character in Season 8.
Also if she decided to attack Kings Landing in season 7 then that would be choosing violence but a lot of her friends would still be alive after Cersei was dead, so the civilian population would probably be quite safe. I guess the real message is violence is only ok if your friends are around. Or maybe, just maybe, the video here is just trying to make excuses at this point.
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@simkiankiong3599 You claim they are "10x worst" yet Trump didn't put Biden in jail to prevent him from running against him in an election nor has Biden put any Republican (including Trump) in jail to prevent them from running against him. Freedom House-an organization that focuses on honest elections and corruption-also rates nations across the world and found that Zelenksyy was honestly elected and that Ukraine has honest elections.
Also yes, Western media did report positive things on Russia but that has tended to decrease in recent years as Putin has done things like attack neighboring nations and arrange assassinations and assassination attempts. Against Navalny stands out in recent years because Putin really did not want him to run for election but other assassinations are also noteworthy like some people killed in the UK a few years back.
Lets look at some of Putin's claims for why he started this war and if they are honest.
1. Nazis supposedly run Ukraine-Nazis hated Jews yet a Russian speaking Jew is currently Ukraine's elected President.
2. Ukraine is not a real nation-Ukraine has existed not just as an independent nation for more than 30 years (something that the Russian government already acknowledged decades ago) but it was officially a "Republic" inside the USSR or Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
3. He is coming to free Russian speakers-yet a Russian speaker is the current President so they don't need freeing, their votes honestly count so even if President Zelenskyy was not President they still have political freedoms, and in areas where Russian speakers are a majority and already had elected local officials Putin is having those elected officials removed from office and replaced by a list of people he picked-thus Putin is taking political freedoms away from towns he has already occupied in the current war even if those towns are of mostly Russian speakers.
Plus there are many photos and videos of Russian troops abusing, stealing from, and sometimes murdering Ukrainian civilians. Bucha was the 1st location where this was found in a sizable way but not the last.
Putin's own claims about why he started this war are lies. Western media doesn't have to say that. People can read a transcript of Russian claims made at the beginning of this war and see if that transcript matches the facts-it does not.
But if Putin is so good then why do Estonians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Ukrainians, Finnish people, Polish people and more all dislike him. Their nations are geographically closer to Russia than many nations so if Western media was supposedly lying to people about how bad Putin was they would know better because they are close enough to Russia that they can easily travel there and would see or hear of the supposed good things.
You complained about Western media but how much time have you spent listening to pro-Putin propaganda?
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