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@David-ns4ym No tank can survive new anti-tank rounds... Why do you think the USA didn't send a few Abrams tanks? Leopard 2, celebrated, and those rounds are going like a hot knife in butter. And you think Russian tanks are so bad, but you selected exactly those, American, Israeli Korean... It makes no difference, now tanks, any tank can be destroyed at least to that degree that if the crew is lucky they will escape...some of them... Who knows when tanks will again appear, and those new, I bet that they will be such that there will be no human crew... Why should a tank have a human crew inside when all can be done from a distance? But Abrams can survive...sure... Let the USA send a dozen of their best Abrams tanks and soon there will be Abrams Square and the stocks of the company who makes those "wonder" tanks will go down... That is why they are sending those old F-16S, they knew those will do nothing, some will be destroyed on the ground, and most who will be so lucky to go to air...Russia has excellent SAM systems, S-400 will destroy any of those, or some advanced Russian jet.
That regime in Ukraine, that is a boomerang that will hit the country that is using it, the USA over its head... Cluster bombs? So Russia will be able to use the same weaponry, a fair game... And who will suffer? Ukraine...
I am sure the USA is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian, it is not like Americans are dying there, at least not too many just some instructors, and some mercs, and no one cares about those.
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@David-ns4ym Russia is not even trying to "conquer" Ukraine... Was the USA trying to conquer Serbia when they started that illegal war against that small country and made Kosovo a separate state just because Albanians wanted Kosovo to be separate? Russia will liberate Donbas, that big landbridge from Donabs to Crimea, and maybe Odeas which is a Russian city to connect Transnistria with Russia proper.
Are you even aware how easy Russia is fighting with that proxy of the USA, almost the whole of NATO (Not my country though, we gave no weaponry to that regime of that beggar, not a single bullet), and a dozen other countries who are giving weaponry and money to that regime the USA put on power via that coup in 2014...
And Rissia is using just a fragment of its military power, some 20 percent... If Russia wanted they can take the whole of Eastern Ukraine, and historically it is Russian, but no, they will do what the USA did, the USA made a precedent by making Kosovo, and Russia will use it.
And the USA, can't do sh*t... They will watch and later will claim it was all part of their plan, Russia to take those parts because they can't change anything. I am glad that militaristic plutocracy is put to shame.
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@-John-Doe- Look what you wrote
"The role of the tank-not to be indestructible"
"The role of the tank - to provide immediate and irreplaceable firepower for extended periods of time."
That is the same... And if I claimed that the tank should be indestructible (the thread is big, I can't go and search for some comment I wrote) that is my mistake, no, tasks are destructible, and they were always destructible, but not as easy and fast as today.
"Drones, Mines, and Missiles aren’t the same tool as a tank." that sentence is a truism and we should not waste time on that. But imagine a tank, a very small tank that has no people inside, something like a drone tank that does the same thing that tank does, but people, soldiers are not in jeopardy... That is not the same as the tank with people in it, but as far as I can predict, probably that is the future.
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@-John-Doe- Yes, you understand what I had on mind, some type of unmanned tankette, or some really developed futuristic vehicle which can hide easily, change its color, be armored at the vital element really good, and armed with some kind of tank gun, missiles, SAM... who knows...But, my point, and obviously yours is that this war is proving that things are changing fast on the military stage, especially when forces that have bing knowledge and investment in weaponry collide, and a lot of interests are under question.
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@DutchTunisian You are speaking about a gray area... Tell me, were you holding such a position when in Serbia Milshevic tried to make ethnic cleansing and the USA and NATO had to intervene, and the USA made a precedent, gave to those Albanians in Kosovo rich to separate that part of Serbia? Was there something gray? Because that same thing is happening in Ukraine, the ultranationalists that the USA put of power via a coup in 2014 started tormenting, torturing, and killing Russians and Russophiles, abolished all rights that the big Russian minority had, abolished their language and Zelensky openly said that whoever feels like Russian and wants to talk Russian should go to Russia... What is gray about that? And Russia tolerated that for 8 years, the straw that broke the camel's back was not blatant disregard for the Minsk agreement, but a promise that Ukraine will be part of NATO, a military organization that lost its reason to exist because it was made as a military alliance that should have protected Western Europe of communist Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is gone for more than 3 decades, Russia is not a communist country and it is not the Soviet Union, but the USA enlarged NATO, from 14 members now NATO has 32, 33 members... Why? If there is no enemy what is the purpose of NATO? The USA had to invent a new enemy, the new-old enemy Russia, and after Russian intervention, that war in Ukraine started, USA used that to scare its NATO partners, how suddenly Russia wants to attack and occupy countries for "reasons" and that Putin is a homicidal maniac that is ready to attack countries... Why would Russia do that? It has enormous territory and attacking and especially holding some country is just a problem for Russia, it has the same logic as swallowing a porcupine, a lot of problems and nothing to gain.
Things are most of the time grayish, but in this case, for those who follow both sides, things are pretty clear and are not so gray.
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@LouisBILLET-v3q You live in some other reality where Russia isn't wiping the floor with Ukies and by extension with the USA, NATO, and a dozen other countries that give weaponry and money to Ukrainian ultranationalists. Russia is winning big time, considering how big the force is Russia has to fight, they are winning and they will win. No matter that my country is in NATO we gave no weaponry to Ukraine, not a single bullet, first because Ukraine is not a member of NATO and never will be, there are at least half a dozen NATO countries, mine dirts that would put VETO to the admission of Ukraine in NATO, second we know what kind of regime that is. You are either living under a rock and are totally uninformed that Russia is winning, or you simply want that, but your wishes don't correlate with reality. I sure am glad that Russia is putting on shame the USA, small Britain, France, Germany, and all those spineless European countries that support that junta in Ukraine, I am glad whenever I hear of all unsuccessful attempts of all those to beat Russia, and I am glad that Russia is wiping the floor with you.
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