Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Sam Harris Pivots To Nazi Apologia" video.

I lost all respect with Sam a few weeks after he made he did a podcast where he went into what he called "moral ambiguity" which is where he claimed there are acts that in their very nature CANNOT be excused. This is what he calls "moral ambiguity" and that certain things have ZERO "moral ambiguity" and there is NOTHING to excuse it. My problem with Sam was that he DOES NOT apply this equally to the Israelis and Palestinians. He DOES NOT really (or clearly) distinguish that within each of these groups there is an incredible variety of ideology. He simply lumps everyone in each group into a single category which is just ignoring reality. He claimed in that podcast that what Hamas did was a crime and that there was NOTHING "morally ambiguous" to cloud that judgement - IT WAS WRONG and required a response. On that I do not fault Sam Harris. What Hamas did was WRONG and there is nothing "morally ambiguous" about that it was wrong and needed a response. I am yet to hear Sam Harris explain the "moral ambiguity" for killing over 12,000 children.
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I lost all respect with Sam a few weeks after he made he did a podcast where he went into what he called "moral ambiguity" which is where he claimed there are acts that in their very nature CANNOT be excused. This is what he calls "moral ambiguity" and that certain things have ZERO "moral ambiguity" and there is NOTHING to excuse it. My problem with Sam was that he DOES NOT apply this equally to the Israelis and Palestinians. He DOES NOT really (or clearly) distinguish that within each of these groups there is an incredible variety of ideology. He simply lumps everyone in each group into a single category which is just ignoring reality. He claimed in that podcast that what Hamas did was a crime and that there was NOTHING "morally ambiguous" to cloud that judgement - IT WAS WRONG and required a response. On that I do not fault Sam Harris. What Hamas did was WRONG and there is nothing "morally ambiguous" about that it was wrong and needed a response. I am yet to hear Sam Harris explain the "moral ambiguity" for killing over 12,000 children.
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@CatarinaStone Well that just proves how mindlessly IGNORANT you and the 3 people who have given you a thumbs up are. And by IGNORANT I mean you are ignoring facts just as Sam Harris has done. He is ignoring the slaughter of innocent peo0ple including children and SO ARE YOU. In what possible context is it acceptable for a 20 something Hamas fighter to call his family up and tell them how wonderful it is that he just killed an entire family including their children, which actually did happen because that killer posted what he had done to social media? ANSWER: There is NO acceptable context for that and the fact you are trying to excuse that or ignore that shows just how debased of a person you are. There is never any excuse for the slaughter of INNOCENT civilians and it doesn't matter what religion or politics or excuses the perpetrators claim.
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@CatarinaStone AND SINCE YOUR SO IGNORANT There have been many alternatives to this disaster over many years. It never needed to happen at all. Do you realise that it was the Arab League who voted against the 2 state solution back when Israel was formed? The Europeans (Britain & France) who'd controlled the region since the end of World War 1, knew that there was no way the fanatics on both sides would never live in a single state together so they put forward a 2 state solution and the ARAB LEAGUE voted it down. Did you know there was polling before the 2024 October 7th attacks that showed Hamas was losing support from the Palestinian people. Hamas was basically operating as a collection of criminal gangs and could not afford elections. Did you realise that it was Benjamin Netanyahu who helped fund Hamas in the first place so that the Palestinians would be politically divided? That's why Palestinian elections weren't happening. Neither Hamas nor the Israeli RIGHT wanted fresh elections among the Palestinians or that political divide might have been extinguished. HERE'S A SOLUTION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD DECADES AGO. When ISRAEL gave back the Sinai to Egypt which it had controlled from 1967 to 1982 and forced the Jewish Settlers to leave that region could have been ceded to the Palestinians and Gaza instead of being a narrow strip of misery could have been massively expanded and the people of Gaza could have had the room to grow. Go look at the Wikipedia page for the "Israeli occupation of the Sinai Peninsula" There were a few people at that time who suggested giving more land to the Palestinians in Gaza, but were shouted down by EVERYONE, because the last thing ANYONE wanted was the Palestinians to be anything else but slaves to the politics of the region. There have been many reasonable and sensible suggestions and solutions brought forward over the last 70 years but NONE of the active political entities want them because then what would they shout about. If you can and you want to be slightly more educated then go and look up the interviews Jon Stewart had with King Abdullah of Jordan on the daily show (2010 & 2012) where Abdullah laid it all out on how to deal with the Palestinian issue and the War on Terror. In a way Abdullah predicted this sort of thing would eventually happen.
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