Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Jordan Peterson’s Homophobia Shredded To Bits By Jim Jeffries" video.

  1. Me neither but then I think I might have been caught on this one too, because its a very fine line between 2 almost identical examples and unless you get BOTH questions up front it could (not would) be easy to jump on a simple answer like JP did and then get caught out. I'm Australian and really proud that Jim Jefferies has asked such a brilliant pair of questions. The British lawyer Jeffery Robertson used to come to Australia and do these hypothetical discussions with panels of people and this was his stock & trade. Ask the first question with the aim to get a simple straight forward answer and then flip it on its head with the follow up question. If you take that first question in isolation and say forcing (through law) a business to serve a particular person is authoritarian. Being honest its the government asserting its authority to make and enforce rules. So such a rule is authoritarian, but the point Jim makes is that Governments can make rules & laws that are good for everyone. This something people on the Right and especially Libertarians can't grasp. When they make a rule or law its NEVER authoritarian because in their mind they are preserving liberty and WILL FORCE that rule on everyone as they are doing in America with the abortion laws (and yes that's a big deal around the world). BUT WHEN other people make rules and especially rules or laws they don't like then Right Wingers scream foul and Libertarians being even further to the right go off their rockers. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW - American Libertarians are pushing their agenda's across the world right now. Here in Australia we just failed to pass a referendum that (in part) would recognise that Australia's Aboriginal peoples (First Nations) in the constitution. The No campaign which was straight out fee mongering, was lead by people (including Aboriginal people) who are involved in Australia's Right Wing Libertarian Think Tanks and those Think Tanks have links to America's Right Wing Libertarian Think Tanks. FOR PROOF - go and look up the Institute of Public Affairs here on YT. The IPA is Australia's most prominent and vocal and well funded Think Tank. If you scroll down their home page to "Other Organisations" you'll see the links to Heritage, CATO,.... etc.
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  2.  @surfwriter8461  I could not have said any of that better, especially the warped sense of individual liberty the libertarians have. If you don't you should watch Thom Hartman on libertarians. He doesn't hold back on discussing where their nonsense came from. The other person to check out is Peter Zeihan. In several of his longer presentations he discusses that this is the 6th or 7th time America has gone through a major political shift. he says its never smooth and usually takes around 8 years before settling back down and we are only at year 4 maybe and maybe it will take longer if Trump gets a 2nd term. From the outside looking in - America's biggest problem seems to be that older generation (over 75) made up of the older 1/2 of the baby boomers and the survivors of the silent generation. They just wont let go and retire. That includes both the political and business leaders.
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