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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Fox Host Hits Ghoulish New Low With Titanic Sub Take" video.
I'm Australian and we've had our share of the illegal immigration issue. For us its a little different to America and a bit more like Europe in that they arrive by boat and its the boat thing that causes so many of these tragedies. FIRST OFF let me say I have no issue with anyone wanting a better life for themselves or their family. We should commend and praise any parent who wants a better life for their children. HOWEVER - I find it egregious that when tragedies like what happened off Greece this last week that people blame the easiest which in this case is the Greek navy. The Greek navy didn't overload that boat and it takes no great understanding of boats that if you overload a boat that badly then its almost guaranteed to sink. The SHORT ANSWER is we found that smuggling people into Australia is incredibly profitable and unlike drugs the punishments aren't really punishments. At $10k per person, a 100+ people on an old boat is a lot of money. At several 1000 people a week its an industry. The LONGER ANSWER is we've had similar tragedies off the coast of Australia with many people drowning. We finally started asking asking hard questions like: WHY are they always in decrepit old boats that can barely float? The Indonesian fisherman simply sold their oldest boats to the smugglers so they could BUY NEW BOATS and you don't waste a good boat on a 1-way trip. You can't blame a poor fisherman who'd like a new boat being paid enough money to get that new boat. The smuggling involved so much money that it simply allowed a generation of Indonesian fishermen to get brand new boats. Most of the time the fishermen also took extra money to crew the boats to Australia. Getting locked up became another bonus on top of that. Under Australian Law all prisoners get a daily allowance. Its not much money but to an Indonesian fisherman its more money than they make fishing. Our own laws made it even more profitable. On top of that we found many people who had settled in Australia sending millions of dollars out of the country to either pay off their debts or fund more people smuggling. Instead of these people looking after themselves and their own families they were sending money to the smugglers. Then there was the huge cost in BOTH money and time in our courts to handle it all. Most of that was paid for by the Australian taxpayer, which is why we ran out of patience. Then finally there's the even uglier side of people smuggling where people are basically sold into slavery AND we did have some of that in Australia. In the end we found that the biggest problem is the money and the only way to deal with the criminal syndicates was to cut off their money supply. That took some of the harshest laws on the planet which had us labelled in some very ugly ways. These days we have some of the most liberal minded Europeans who labelled us in very ugly terms coming to Australia to ask how we did it. Its not the people who come that we see as a problem its the criminal syndicates who make it happen. They are ruthless people with no respect for human life or dignity.
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@alejandrorivas4585 Yes and No. I'm an engineer and one of the huge problems the less developed world has is that the developed world keeps taking their brighter people. Like in Australia we put in a system that values qualifications and skills AND FOR US it works really well because those who immigrate come with skills we want. 2 Problems: 1) We aren't developing our own people with those skills well enough and have been trying to plug the gaps we created from stupid internal decisions. I'm an engineer and can go into great detail about this with respect to skilled tradesmen - electricians, welders, machinists,...etc. 2) As I said we are stripping skilled people away from countries that need those skills to develop in the first place. I think the far better solution is to actually help less developed nations ACTUALLY develop instead of just treating them as places to supply cheap labor and/or cheap resources AND to dump guns in.
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