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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "The shameless attack on a climate change dissenter" video.
I'm an aerospace engineer by training and I will grant anyone that there is a section of the community who think that science and technology will magically do anything and everything they can think off. We call that ideology "scientism." These are people who usually have NO scientific or engineering or technological training. I can't stand them because all they do is confuse people over what engineers can and can't do. I particularly hate those who call themselves futurists who peddle science fiction from movies as if tis real. HOWEVER Aaron Brown is also just as deluded as the far left. He is NOT a climate scientist and it only takes seconds to find his bio via google at Reason Magazine. His initial claim that he can find nobody who has refuted Steve Koonin's claims on scientific grounds is EXACTLY the same cherry picking that he's saying people have claimed about Steve Koonin. For starters he points out that Steve Koonin worked in the Obama Administration but leaves out Steve Koonin was BPs Chief Scientist. It took only seconds to find out that Steve Koonin based a lot of his work from a narrow set of data which is what people have pointed out. So Aaron is either incompetent at fact checking or just another liar in a debate full of liars. And that's the problem with any discussion on climate. There are cranks on BOTH SIDEDS.
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@spacescatatford Bullshit you're in science because the first thing anyone learns about any facet of science or engineering is that we DO NOT know everything and NOBODY is ever taught math, physics, chemistry or engineering in blind faith. Science is about EXPLAINING things and getting people to understand. Blind faith does not include explanations or understanding.
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@spacescatatford You are very close but not 100% correct that everything in the consumer world has been touched by science and engineering. As an engineer who has worked across a number of industries I looked at this a few years ago. It took a bit effort to find something that DOES NOT involve science and engineering. Anything made of metal or plastic or is packaged or involved any type of machinery or used electricity involved engineering. I'm Australian and the one group of products available here I know of that DO NOT involve engineering are traditional arts and craft from our first nations people. Its not all of what they make either. Its only the very traditional stuff using native materials. The world famous popular dot paintings are done on canvas and that canvas is engineered. I only know of a few places where the genuine traditional carvings on native timber and paintings done on charred bark are available. I suspect among other artist using traditional materials and techniques there are also some products that are not engineered or involve engineering but I do not know of any specific examples.
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@spacescatatford If you want to talk about "scientism" which is an idiotic ideology that is SEPARATE from science and technology that's promoted by clowns who claim science will solve everything then maybe you have a point. I absolutely hate that crowd. The amount of time I have to spend undoing all the false narratives they promote is incredibly frustrating. They also make it unbelievably easy for bad faith actors like Steve Koonin, Richard Linzen, Alex Epstein, and many others to convince people of EQUALY BAD SCIENCE. The Hypocrisy of BOTH SIDES of the Climate debate is DISGUSTING. I hate the Greenies almost as much as I hate the Steve Koonins. They all cherry pick data and confuse people with it. Right now as I type this there is a thumb nail titled "Richard Lindzen exposes climate change as a politicised power play motivated by malice and profit." There's another one with Alex Epstein titled "Neither an energy transition nor climate crisis exists..." BOTH CLAIMS ARE UTTER BULLSHlT. FIRST: The climate denial campaign came from the same people who denied tobacco causes cancer and other things. It was and still is 100% politically motivated. It was started by a small group of extremist Libertarians from the Reagan/Bush era. They have the fundamental belief that Governments can do nothing right and should not regulate anything. It has nothing to do with science and never did. SECOND: Humanity has gone through numerous energy transitions. Without an energy transition we would never have had the Industrial Revolution. Without another energy revolution we'd never have transitioned from horse & buggy to cars. Without further transitions we would never have had the jet age, the rocket age or nuclear power. Its just such a ludicrous claim.
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