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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "The cost of hosting the Olympics - BBC News" video.
@jeromemanoharan7427 I have heard there are issue with Brazils stadiums but didn't want to comment on that as I don't know those issues like I know the others. My understanding is they are very similar to Athens issues. They just don't have the money to keep them. I'm Australian but went to college in America on a sports scholarship so I know what sorts of facilities American cities like LA & Atlanta have. I went to U. Illinois and I know Chicago could hold the Olympics in a heartbeat. Chicago just has that many stadiums as well as several large universities with their dorms. That was LA's huge advantage. They had UCLA and USC and all their facilities. Then they had the Rose Bowl and LA Coliseum and several others. Their biggest expense was paint and painters
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I'm Australian and we just won the 2032 games. NO ONE ELSE BID and nobody is asking why? We have plenty of idiots celebrating and making it out to be a good thing. Some of those idiots a have even started the lies. The worst is the claim that 80% of the venues are already built. That's just idiotic garbage. I am currently in Brisbane. I have lived here previously and there is NO WAY they even 25% of the venues and those they do have will need major upgrades before 2032. If Japan is a massive financial failure it only joins the financial failures of others. As a kid I watched the 1976 Montreal games. To the best of my knowledge they have never recovered the costs. 1980 in Moscow was a success because they had cheap labor which also gave Seoul in 1988 an advantage. LA & Atlanta were held in cities with massive sports facilities and massive universities with huge dorms they could use for the athletes village. Barcelona already had a couple of major stadiums. London already had all those football stadiums and the rest of the facilities. Beijing like Seoul and Moscow just had all that cheap labor to build what ever they wanted. Brisbane has 2 main stadiums the Gabba (oval shaped) at 42,000 and Suncorp (rectangular) at 52,500. Neither of those are up to Olympic standard which needs to be around the 80,000 mark. Brisbane held the 1982 Commonwealth games and did a great job. Every since they felt that justified they could host the Olympics. Brisbanites TOTALLY ignore all the extra sports the Olympics have and all the extra athletes and support staff and the extra media. They are planning to spend $1Billion upgrading the Gabba from 42,000 to 50,000 and don't get that's a joke by Olympic Standards. PLUS there's the lesson of Sydney they have already forgotten. It still hasn't been paid for and will most likely NEVER recoup the money spent. Why did one else bid for 2032? Because they were awake.
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@jeromemanoharan7427 Don't go down that fraudulent election crap or there's no chance of any rational discussion. I was a swimmer which is how I got my scholarship and I know people who went to LA, Barcelona, Seoul and Atlanta. As far as 2032 the rest all pulled out. We won by default. The size of America the size of American capability is one thing Australian's never seem to understand unless they have spent time in America. I wasn't there for 1 semester I was there 3-1/2 years and did a lot of travelling in the summers. I went to school in Illinois and if you take the populations of Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin you have almost the same population as the whole of Australia. California and Texas have bigger populations than Australia and yet we have almost the same land area as mainland US. American's don't get how much open space we have and Australians don't get how many people America has.
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@jeromemanoharan7427 Good points. I'm actually from Melbourne but am currently living in Brisbane. Your dead right way too many people go for holidays and visit places and then think they know those places. It took better than 2 years for me to start understanding America and even then I sort of only understood parts of the mid-west. I'd say America's education system still has parts that are as good as any and a few better than everyone else BUT across a broad spectrum its clearly sliding. BUT then I also look at Australia and can see the signs of the same. I did engineering and the skills I see young engineers graduating with these days are 2nd if not 3rd class to what I graduated with. And its mainly in the very basic skills which surprises many people. Their ability with computers is staggering but their math skills are shite.
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@jeromemanoharan7427 Both my parents where high school teachers. Most of the social circle consisted of other teachers and a couple of my friends are also high school teachers. I'm pretty well informed on the subject and that information covers most of the last 50+ years. The problem with certain technologies is they make people lazy. Just as Microsoft word has made spelling a lazy subject for many people, AutoCAD has done the same in engineering most notably in mechanical engineering and to a lesser extent in civil and electrical. The problem in engineering is that if you can't draw its very hard to communicate your design. Technical drawing is to engineers what grammar is to a writer or journalist.
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@jeromemanoharan7427 SQRT(1) <> 1???? That's bound to be interesting to a math theorist/geek. As an engineer I'm fundamentally an applied mathematician as in I take already proven math and apply it to real world problems.
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I'm Australian and we just won the 2032 games. NO ONE ELSE BID and nobody is asking why? We have plenty of idiots celebrating and making it out to be a good thing. Some of those idiots a have even started the lies. The worst is the claim that 80% of the venues are already built. That's just idiotic garbage. I am currently in Brisbane. I have lived here previously and there is NO WAY they even 25% of the venues and those they do have will need major upgrades before 2032. If Japan is a massive financial failure it only joins the financial failures of others. As a kid I watched the 1976 Montreal games. To the best of my knowledge they have never recovered the costs. 1980 in Moscow was a success because they had cheap labor which also gave Seoul in 1988 an advantage. LA & Atlanta were held in cities with massive sports facilities and massive universities with huge dorms they could use for the athletes village. Barcelona already had a couple of major stadiums. London already had all those football stadiums and the rest of the facilities. Beijing like Seoul and Moscow just had all that cheap labor to build what ever they wanted. Brisbane has 2 main stadiums the Gabba (oval shaped) at 42,000 and Suncorp (rectangular) at 52,500. Neither of those are up to Olympic standard which needs to be around the 80,000 mark. Brisbane held the 1982 Commonwealth games and did a great job. Every since they felt that justified they could host the Olympics. Brisbanites TOTALLY ignore all the extra sports the Olympics have and all the extra athletes and support staff and the extra media. They are planning to spend $1Billion upgrading the Gabba from 42,000 to 50,000 and don't get that's a joke by Olympic Standards. PLUS there's the lesson of Sydney they have already forgotten. It still hasn't been paid for and will most likely NEVER recoup the money spent. Why did one else bid for 2032? Because they were awake.
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@connorw360 Just FK-off with that crap. The subject here is the Olympics not some garbage that's totally unrelated.
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