Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "The Jimmy Dore Show"
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@dickpark9807 Seriously I'm not interested I any conspiracy shit. Sure the CIA do bad stuff and lots of it and having been doing bad stuff for decades. BUT they do not magically control America as part of some Deep State bullshit.
While people yell and scream conspiracy garbage all it does is create masses of confusion and the result is that NO ONE is actually dealing with the real issues. There's just super wealthy people with too much influence. There is no Deep State just loose groups of very selfish people like Charles Koch, Rupert Murdoch, Robert Herring (owner of OAN), Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Peter Theil,.....etc. They want what they want and the rest of us can go f--k ourselves.
What Americans need to realise is that you are the pawns in a war between loose groups of Oligarchs. On one side are the old money oil, gas, coal, newspapers, rail roads,...etc. People just like Charles Koch and Rupert Murdoch who will do anything and say anything to keep the world just as it is. On the other side are the new tech billionaires like Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk,.....etc.
There is no Deep State just feuding selfish billionaires who don't care a flying f--k about you or me.
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@mrgoldigger9206 What did Trump ruin - Lets start:
1: He tore up NAFTA and ruined America's relationships with Canada and Mexico, but I'll guess you don't care about that.
2: He tore up the Pacific Trade Agreement and ruined America's relationships with Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand and the rest of the Pacific, but I'll guess you don't care about that.
3: He tore up the Treaty with Iran and now the rest of the world has to deal with a nuclear armed Iran, but I'll guess you don't care about that.
4: He tore up Obama's pandemic response plans and let 320,000 Americans die while he played golf, but I'll guess you don't care about that.
5: He failed to secure the vaccines that Americans need, which will lead to more deaths and suffering, but I'll guess you don't care about that.
6: He's claimed climate change is a hoax despite the Pentagon releasing a report saying its real and they will need more money to cover the extra costs of running their bases, but I'll guess you don't care about that either.
And lets talk about the CCP payroll shall we. Who's little sister has been operating in China and making millions the last couple of years - Jared Kushner's little sister that's who. Who is that while she was on a diplomatic mission secured her Chinese Trade marks - Ivanka Trump that's who. Who is it that has bank accounts in China - Donald Trump that's who.
And lets no forget who is the one American who has sided with Vladimir Putin when it came to anything like election interference and cyber attacks on US Institutions. Well according to Bill Barr its a guy named Donald Trump. I think he's out there on the golf course while America gets attacked and its people are dying from a disease he called a hoax.
I'd keep going if you weren't so idiotically ignorant of reality.
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You're almost right, it is a class war, but there's actually 3 major conflicts going on in American politics. There's the one in the Dems, the one in the GOP and the one between the billionaire elites who control both parties.
The conflict between billionaires is what I call Carbon Vs. Silicon. Look at the billionaires on the Republican side and a lot of them have made their money from extracting, refining, processing, and selling carbon based products (coal, oil, plastics,....etc). On the other side supporting the Dems are a pack of technocrats Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg types who all rely on computers and technologies based around silicon. I know its not strictly true but fundamentally if you're a billionaire into Carbon your a Republican and if your billionaire who relies on Silicon your a Dem.
As for the conflict inside the Dems its progressives versus stagnators. I call them stagnators because all they want is stagnation. They want nothing to change unless it benefits them. Sure Bezos and others are disruptors but look at how they now treat anybody else and any competition. They love to disrupt but wont let anybody else disrupt. Progressives are progressive because they want society to move forwards. The most fundamental aspect of progressives is that they want change that benefits everyone not just the few.
There's even a similar conflict in the GOP where you have the Trumpists who want to break the power of the old oil & coal families like the Bush and Koch families. Trump himself might not give a crap about them, but he tapped right into a massive amount of anger and frustration from people who had been left behind. Look at how much the top 1% have made in the past 30+ years and what did the base of the GOP get. Most of them have seen no real wage growth the entire working lives and more often than not watched there jobs get moved to Texas or Mexico or China.
The second American civil war might not have been openly declared but it has been going for about 5 years.
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