Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "ColdFusion" channel.

FANTASTIC TO FINALLY SEE PEOPLE CALLING THIS HYPE OUT. I'm an aerospace engineer (by degree) who works in industrial control systems and the staggering amount of nonsense I hear on AI is ridiculous. In the early 1990s I had neural nets and how they actually functioned explained by an electrical engineer who'd worked on them while at University. The origins of neural nets goes back to the 1950s BEFORE the emergence of digital computers. The first generation neural nets were fundamentally analog computing devices set up for complex calculations. The YT channel Veratasium did a good video on what analog computers are, why they were used in the past and why they have potential applications again today. AI (as we know it) is basically digital versions of analog computers and being digital they can be scaled up to immense complexity in a reliable and repeatable way. The most important thing that I see people misunderstanding is that these AI systems DO NOT THINK, but instead they CALCULATE ANSWERS to very complex statistical math. We see this most often when the search box on YT or Google starts giving possible questions as we start typing. Its CALCULATING the most likely search to what you are typing. I BLAME the promoters and media pundits for this misconception.
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As an engineer I could not agree more. Below this is the reply I just gave to a thread started by AlanKey86 that goes "Within the next 10 videos, ColdFusion will slip in 1 where the script's been written by AI... the test will be if we, the audience, can spot it :D" Considering the malignant epidemic of technical ignorance that constantly bedazzles the general public anytime somebody does yet another over-hyped story of "wow-wee future tech" that you all suck down into your vacuous brains then NOBODY should expect many people to notice if the BULLSHlT they are being told comes from a clown or an AI. Yesterday 40,000 children died because we didn't feed them, today another 40,000 will die because we aren't feeding them and tomorrow another 40,000 will die because we don't have food for them. And that's before we get onto the 10s of 1000s who will die from simple infections and other easily dealt with ailments. MEANWHILE we have a room full of idiots who think being able to photoshop better is worth spending millions of dollars on. I heard a term recently "Scientism." Its the ideology that science and technology will somehow magically fix everything. As an engineer I don't know which form of technology will magically start feeding children or the magical tech that will fix the climate WHEN M0R0NS keep thinking this crap is more important.
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@mafiousbj There's a really good (but less well known) TED talk by an AI programmer from a few years ago. Its about where the training of an AI can go wrong. The talker gave an example of when they tried to get an AI to recognise fish over other marine species. After they taught it instead of recognizing fish it gave bizarre answers. When they asked it to draw a fish it drew the back of 2 human hands. When they went back and checked almost every photo they had showed the AI that it was told "this is a fish" the fish was being held up to the camera by someone. So the most common thing the AI saw in every photo that it was told "this is a fish" had the back of 2 human hands. What that speaker was highlighting was the issue of training AI neural nets with data that can be misinterpreted. There's been a few AI people speak out against the hype and they all have similar stories and all of them rail against the hype. FYI - I work in industrial control systems and have serious concerns that people in management positions will be convinced by the hype-merchants to make some really stupid decisions that we might spend a lot of time undoing.
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That's because she's hiding in one of the following places: - a very small hole about 6feet down. - in a small submarine made of cement. - Brick top's pig farm (see the film Snatch for an explanation).
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@felixisaac I'm trying to help make the agricultural sector produce more food though better land management. So far I keep hitting walls of ignorance. WTF are you doing?
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I can see the day coming when one of these charlatans steps out of his front door like John Lennon did. The difference will be, while John Lennon is fondly remembered and Mark Chapman is hated, when this clown steps out his front door NOBODY will miss him and people will laud the other guy as a hero.
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I can see the day coming when one of these charlatans steps out of his front door like John Lennon did. The difference will be, while John Lennon is fondly remembered and Mark Chapman is hated, when this clown steps out his front door NOBODY will miss him and people will laud the other guy as a hero.
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@lchpdmq Please don't argue with an engineer who knows software systems about the difference between calculating and thinking. I don't have that many hours to explain it. First I'd have to explain the differences between digital and analog processing AND THEN the differences between parallel and vector processing AND THEN why quantum computers are going to radically change a couple of areas of technology especially encryption BUT THEN how the new type of encryption called vector encryption will get round that. Bottom line is calculating is NOT thinking although it can at times look like it because 1 area of thinking is actually calculating. Its sort of like cars are a subset of motor vehicles. Cars might be one type of motor vehicle but there are other types as well. Calculating might be one type of thinking but there are many other areas of thinking and most of them we have very little idea of how they work.
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@augustgreig9420 Greta point and it goes to show that almost EVERY INFLUENCER these days is SELECTIVE in what they say what they try and influence. As the old saying goes "follow the money and you'll find a path to the truth."
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@jefflane617 It wont be AI taking the role of the charismatic idiot. It will be AI taking the role of the charismatic idiot's ventriloquist dummy. The problem for most audiences will be recognising which is the dummy and which is the ventriloquist.
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Patrick Boyle did an excellent report on this and it really was a pack of children in charge of billions. He hinted towards the incredible lack of experience among them including the Chief Operating Officer Constance Wang. She gave an interview that's here on YT where she talks about leaving Credit Suisse because she didn't like the compliance training course she was doing. Just think about the logic of handing about $10 billion to an inexperienced person who's bothered by compliance.
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@felixisaac There is the most terrible aspect of that. There's nothing you or I could do that will stop the next million children dying of hunger or the other million dying from a lack of basic medicine. All we can do are those things that might make the world a better place at some point in the future. I'm actually an aerospace engineer and when they did the first road map for the Australian Space Agency the very 1st item in the list was advanced space based water management with the claim it MIGHT be available in the mid 2030s. Its an area of space technology called Earth Observation Sciences. My attitude was "Why TF are we going to wait until 2035 for somebody to just gives it to us. Lets just get on with it." Australia currently has a population of 26 million but produces food for more than 75 million. If we mismanage our water (and we have a long history of doing that) then we don't produce as much food as we should and a lot of people go hungry. However - if you try and tell the Australian Government you want to spend a few hundred million so that it will help starving children in other countries it wont go far. There are these people called economists and they'll ask "What's the business case for that?" So I tried another tack. Australia's ag sector employs over 300,000 people and is worth just $200+ Billion a year. Our tourism industry employs over 550,000 people and is worth over $55+ Billion a year. So collectively we have a lot of people dependent on the management of our rivers, land, forests and ocean areas. So I pushed that as simple straight forward economic reason - protecting jobs & money. I GOT NOWHERE. Unfortunately I'd upset a few egos, which is an ever bigger issue than economics when it comes to politics.
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@diegotuff8320 Your right, this story could so easily be about Enron, Theranos or even Ponzi himself. What would you need to change other than the names and some of the dialog?
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@jefflane617 Agreed - scary, dangerous and NOT good either way its looked at. I see it as very much the like the story of the naked king. Who was imply told he looked fantastic and every one told him he looked fantastic and every one ended up believing he looked fantastic because he wore the finest clothes anyone had ever seen. Then one day a small child simply said "but he has no clothes!" Think about what happened with Theranos. Yeah the PR said it was amazing BUT being able to diagnose EVERYTHING from a single drop of blood was simply science fiction. I'm certain she even got the idea from science fiction (like the Hollywood film "Gattaca"). BUT all that was ignored and she was paraded as the brilliant young gifted entrepreneur who was also a girl taking on Wall Street and the patriarchy. Then one day someone finally said "It doesn't work!" I'm wondering when the same moment will come from AI. My fear it it wont come before doing a staggering amount of damage.
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AEROSPACE Engineer here and I've heard some similar stories regarding many technologies like: 1950 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1960 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1970 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1980 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1990 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2000 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2010 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2020 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. By chance can you guess how far away nuclear fusion will be in 2030? I'm Australian but did my degree in America. I was doing my degree in the late 80s and we EXPECTED to build Space Station Freedom in the 1990s and then be back on the Moon by 2001 to start setting up a lunar base that would be the start of a permanent settlement AND YES we took that date from the film. THEN the Challenger accident happened and as we know it was because of poor decisions being made by the wrong people. That has been followed by several 1,000 poor decisions being made by the wrong people and we are no closer to a permanent lunar base than we were January 28, 1986 when Challenger happened. I have spent the last 30+ years working across a variety of industries doing industrial control systems and trying quietly to learn from these industries how we might do stuff on the moon. So long as we have the combination of the wrong people making bad decisions in combination with the unrealistic promotions (and at least Cold Fusion does but "providers" into the story) of effectively vacant over rated (and often over hyped) "future technologies" that will re-shape humanity we wont (as a species) move forward because too many of the basic things like food, shelter, clean water, clean energy and a few other things are NOT DEALT WITH as a priority. I have spent most of the last 20 years working on construction mines in remote locations because it presents the same sorts of issues building a lunar base has. Everything is at least 3 days away, the environment is hostile and you have to build all the basic infrastructure any modern society needs including housing, food storage, food prep, clean water, waste water, power (including power distribution), roads and very importantly workshops for maintenance. While we have story after story of the latest break though technology we are also surrounded by crumbling infrastructure. Go and look at any modern society and you will find major infrastructure issues. They might differ from country to country but we all have them. Energy infrastructure is the major issue that most have and its a serious issue because everything needs energy.
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@radicalraccoon Good comment. I'd however use the word viability rather than efficiency in the middle of the first paragraph because that's what your talking about with things like "ease of production." On your second paragraph however is that your 1/2 right in that some parts of the chip manufacturing will be the same or similar. In particular mounting the chip into a substrate and attaching the pin connections and then encasing it should be reasonably close if not identical. BUT if you have ever looked at how they actually make the actual chip in terms of the layering then this will NOT be the same. If it was then these chips would be on their way to market and they are still years away.
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There's a line towards the end of this (15::56) that should be put on posters "Onecoin has exposed some glaring faults in society. Technology is developing so rapidly that is difficult to keep up. This can generally be a great thing though on the flip side many people can be fooled into believing in technology they don't understand. Especially in this day and age with so many sides to each story and the emergence of fake news surrounding the Internet. It's easy to get lost in an echo chamber of confirmation bias." (punctuation mine) I'm an aerospace engineer and some of the nonsense being pumped out in respect of space exploration and space commercialisation is infuriating because to discuss anything other than the narrative how how its great is to be treated exactly with the same DISMISSIVE rhetoric as the Irish woman at 13 minutes. It also goes with almost everything else in engineering these days. The way the uneducated dismiss the education and experience of others. It goes right to the heart of the current 2022 energy crisis. Engineers have been trying to warn the world for years now that the infrastructure couldn't keep going with the lack of maintenance and lack of investment. But who wants to hear what 99% of the engineers have to say when everyone can listen to the latest maverick visionary.
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@AmazingArends Its NOT mechanical at all, but I get the point. BUT its because it can be the type of system that can play chess as to why it can also take lots of jobs. At any given moment in a chess game the player can chose any of 16 pieces (or less) to move and the available moves are finite. In fact some pieces might not be able to move at all. So the task of choosing the next move becomes definable. As I just described in another comment tasks like image processing for fingerprints and facial recognition are "definable tasks" that by the repetitive nature are things AI is well suited to. Then there's the cases of call centres for things like customer support where there's already stories of job losses.
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Its November 2022 and "Here we are again!" FTX another bunch of people in roughly the same age group. Look at the attitude he displays just 2 minutes in. Look at the attitude of senior people who should have known better.
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@da7me22 I don't think they'd run a brick phone for a month but the point you make is valid. A lot of people do not know how much power these larger systems actually require. Just recently in North or South Carolina they rejected a company wanting to put in a sever farm. People ranted about jobs until they realised 2 things. Once built the server farm would have ZERO permanent staff as they'd run it all form other places. SECOND it was going to need over 900 Megawatts of power. The latest AP1000 Nuclear power reactors at Vogtle in Georgia cost US$17 Billion EACH. and they put out 1100MW. YES Computing systems now require massive amounts of energy and a significant part of that is cooling. Iceland is currently hosting a lot of the crypto currency mining systems. Because every transaction needs processing and in Iceland they have an energy free cooling system called "a window" and they just open it. Our wonderful IT world uses staggering amounts of power and mobile phones are just one part of it. Each mobile phone in itself doesn't use much power but the billions we have use a lot of energy to charge and the networks use a heap more to operate.
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Yeah - how many times have we seen over the decades (if not centuries) that the marketeers of fast money and impractical growth always come to a crashing halt. How many time have you heard a phrase like (7:38) "his reinvention of finance was on its way to changing the world" Remember Theranos bimbo Elizabeth Holmes claims of changing the world. You know why engineers created Crypto? So engineers could prove once and for all how stupid people with economics degrees are.
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AEROSPACE Engineer here and I've heard some similar stories regarding many technologies like: 1950 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1960 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1970 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1980 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1990 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2000 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2010 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2020 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. By chance can you guess how far away nuclear fusion will be in 2030? I'm Australian but did my degree in America. I was doing my degree in the late 80s and we EXPECTED to build Space Station Freedom in the 1990s and then be back on the Moon by 2001 to start setting up a lunar base that would be the start of a permanent settlement AND YES we took that date from the film. THEN the Challenger accident happened and as we know it was because of poor decisions being made by the wrong people. That has been followed by several 1,000 poor decisions being made by the wrong people and we are no closer to a permanent lunar base than we were January 28, 1986 when Challenger happened. I have spent the last 30+ years working across a variety of industries doing industrial control systems and trying quietly to learn from these industries how we might do stuff on the moon. So long as we have the combination of the wrong people making bad decisions in combination with the unrealistic promotions (and at least Cold Fusion does but "providers" into the story) of effectively vacant over rated (and often over hyped) "future technologies" that will re-shape humanity we wont (as a species) move forward because too many of the basic things like food, shelter, clean water, clean energy and a few other things are NOT DEALT WITH as a priority. I have spent most of the last 20 years working on construction mines in remote locations because it presents the same sorts of issues building a lunar base has. Everything is at least 3 days away, the environment is hostile and you have to build all the basic infrastructure any modern society needs including housing, food storage, food prep, clean water, waste water, power (including power distribution), roads and very importantly workshops for maintenance. While we have story after story of the latest break though technology we are also surrounded by crumbling infrastructure. Go and look at any modern society and you will find major infrastructure issues. They might differ from country to country but we all have them. Energy infrastructure is the major issue that most have and its a serious issue because everything needs energy.
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@somethinglikethat2176 They are relying on the old airplane or pyramid scheme if you want to call it that. Another word for it is "the next loser" "lucky loser" or "hot potato" where they pump up the price for something everybody wins except the last person left holding the potato who gets their fingers burned, because they are left with the all the expenses of everyone else's profits The subprime housing market was all based on it and the current Chinese property boom is based on it. Most real estate booms are based on it. These people rely on people thinking that they will never be the last person in line, but these bubble games always burst and there's always somebody who's the last person in line. This is why pyramid schemes are outlawed in many countries as well as multi-level marketing.
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@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 That is a great point and just the other day I heard about how an Indian Call Centre simply sacked over 90% of their people and replaced them with an AI (Chat GPT clone or similar). When you think about how important the call centre industry in India is that's potentially the first step in a major disaster. A lot of those Indian call centre people have spent a lot of money getting degrees in places like Canada and Australia (my country). If that industry suddenly goes away it will also smash the Canadian and Australian university systems because fewer students will come. AND that's before we get into all the other threats to education that AI is promising WITHOUT any proof it can deliver.
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@cg.marklemuel They are a lot closer to taking away millions of simpler jobs like call centers and customer support. Where computer based systems have always worked is on REPETITIVE tasks. What they have managed with these newer systems is to expand that range into things that are not exactly repetitive but are predictable. I mentioned in another comment how I heard that an Indian call center sacked most f its staff and replaced them with an AI. That's the sort of thing that can have dramatic effects with expansive consequences. There are some tasks that AI is particularly good at and there's reasons why. If you think about the text completion in things like search engines. The moment you type the first letter you have suddenly reduced the chances of the what the first word is. Type the second letter and that goes down even further. Complete the first word and start the second word and the number of options reduce dramatically and because of previous searches the rest of the question can be suggested. That's an ideal task for how neural nets can be trained to function and (by extension) also why a lot of customer service work is at risk. Also if you consider things like image analysis tasks like matching finger prints or facial recognition where the task is to compare images or partial images. Its what in engineering can be called a "well defined task." The image can be digitised and key features NUMERICALLY DEFINED into a pattern. Its then a matter of searching for close matches to that numerical pattern. Its a bit like how a person does one of those "Where's Waldo?" photos. Your brain might not just be looking for Waldo but some part of him like his hat. This is why AI is very good at certain tasks or types of tasks. My biggest concern is that its being now PROMOTED as the solution to everything. Think about how many times there's been an announcement of the "next game changing" technology and that's almost the last you ever hear about it. But then we get disasters like Theranos where it gets totally out of hand and people lose out huge.
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@farentimonnaewens4662 Agreed there have been people who warned about all sorts of tech including AI and NOBODY listened. WAY BACK around 1990 Silicon Graphics did a demo of there then latest systems at the college I was doing post-grad. They were one of the first to use RISC based systems and their graphics CPUs (what we now call GPUs) ran at TWICE the clock speed of their main CPUs. it was serious stuff at that time. They were foundered to fill the need for data presentation coming out of the Supercomputers. In those days the CRAY SCs were just giant number crunching beasts. They needed a front end to format the data and a back end to present it AND Silicon Graphics were one of the companies that stepped into that space. They were the first ones to do all those fancy flow visualisations of wings and racing cars. I did aerospace so I got to see that stuff. At that display they showed us they had a 100% created in software short film of a girl walking out of the surf onto a perfect beautiful white sandy beach. Had we NOT been told none of us would have noticed it was a simulation. It really was that crisp. A couple of years later that same company Silicon Graphics became famous for what they did on the film Terminator 2 with the liquid metal robot. Even back then Silicon Graphics and others admitted that in future they would be able to make almost anything and the average person would NOT know the difference. What held it back for so long was how much time (both people and computing) to do even a few seconds. That 10-15 seconds of the girl on the beach (I think) took over a month because it required so much ray tracing. With this new stuff what used to take days or weeks takes minutes and hours. If you recall the film "Running Man" where they map Arnnie Swartz onto old footage with Jesse Ventura for a fight scene. That would have take months back in the 90s now its almost as fast as the film. I have heard Ric Beato (here on YT) talk about the sound equipment they have now that can make anyone into a sensational singer and fix almost any sound track. If somebody hits a wrong note they can fix it in the software. I bet you know more about that stuff than I do.
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@Bankable2790 Yep you have described academia pretty well. There is a rather false myth that academics are pure hearted people only interested in learning, knowledge, teaching and truth. I did 3 years of post graduate research and was so disgusted by what I saw I walked away from a fully funded PhD scholarship. My supervisor told me TO MY FACE how he was committing financial fraud by using money assigned for purchasing equipment in my project for airfares for him to a conference and that conversation ended with the words "This is how things are done. Get used to it."
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@technolus5742 If you have a workable idea that we can all live with about dealing with the pandemic of misinformation THEN PLEASE TELL US. Because other than educating people to think I have nothing and as far as I know humanity has spent several centuries trying to teach people to think and all it got us was Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂
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It also doesn't take much to realise that if he got his wealth from the Dot Com Bubble then it basically means he got out BEFORE the bubble burst. There's NOTHING new about that either. In every bubble there are those few who get out before the bubble bursts and look like geniuses.
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As an engineer let me put it this way. Considering the malignant epidemic of technical ignorance that constantly bedazzles the general public anytime somebody does yet another over-hyped story of "wow-wee future tech" that you all suck down into your vacuous brains then NOBODY should expect many people to notice if the BULLSHlT they are being told comes from a clown or an AI. Yesterday 40,000 children died because we didn't feed them, today another 40,000 will die because we aren't feeding them and tomorrow another 40,000 will die because we don't have food for them. And that's before we get onto the 10s of 1000s who will die from simple infections and other easily dealt with ailments. MEANWHILE we have a room full of idiots who think being able to photoshop better is worth spending millions of dollars on. I heard a term recently "Scientism." Its the ideology that science and technology will somehow magically fix everything. As an engineer I don't know which form of technology will magically start feeding children or the magical tech that will fix the climate WHEN M0R0NS keep thinking this crap is more important.
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@gregoryallen0001 It starts with venture capitalists who know people will get sucked into the scheme because they understand greed. They are followed by the risk takers who know its a scheme but are willing to risk they can get out before it collapses. Finally the gullible come in and buy when the system is at the lip of the ski-jump. It never goes well for them.
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AEROSPACE Engineer here and I've heard some similar stories regarding many technologies like: 1950 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1960 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1970 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1980 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 1990 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2000 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2010 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. 2020 We'll have Nuclear Fusion in 30 years because somebody made a breakthrough. By chance can you guess how far away nuclear fusion will be in 2030? I'm Australian but did my degree in America. I was doing my degree in the late 80s and we EXPECTED to build Space Station Freedom in the 1990s and then be back on the Moon by 2001 to start setting up a lunar base that would be the start of a permanent settlement AND YES we took that date from the film. THEN the Challenger accident happened and as we know it was because of poor decisions being made by the wrong people. That has been followed by several 1,000 poor decisions being made by the wrong people and we are no closer to a permanent lunar base than we were January 28, 1986 when Challenger happened. I have spent the last 30+ years working across a variety of industries doing industrial control systems and trying quietly to learn from these industries how we might do stuff on the moon. So long as we have the combination of the wrong people making bad decisions in combination with the unrealistic promotions (and at least Cold Fusion does but "providers" into the story) of effectively vacant over rated (and often over hyped) "future technologies" that will re-shape humanity we wont (as a species) move forward because too many of the basic things like food, shelter, clean water, clean energy and a few other things are NOT DEALT WITH as a priority. I have spent most of the last 20 years working on construction mines in remote locations because it presents the same sorts of issues building a lunar base has. Everything is at least 3 days away, the environment is hostile and you have to build all the basic infrastructure any modern society needs including housing, food storage, food prep, clean water, waste water, power (including power distribution), roads and very importantly workshops for maintenance. While we have story after story of the latest break though technology we are also surrounded by crumbling infrastructure. Go and look at any modern society and you will find major infrastructure issues. They might differ from country to country but we all have them. Energy infrastructure is the major issue that most have and its a serious issue because everything needs energy.
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