Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Vaccine Hesitancy EXPLAINED" video.

I tend tp agree but I think he's also gliding over some very complex issues very simplistically. Take the Lab Leak. In the early it wasn't just a lab leak it was a weapon either accidentally released or deliberately released. Dr. Michael Osterholm (director of CIDRAP) and one of the few people who's been both accurate and realistic about the whole pandemic, pointed out (earlier in 2021) that between the outright natural occurrence and the leaked weapon there's 1000s of answers but only 1 is correct. Konstantin fails to point out we never got to have a rational public discussion on the origin. There other thing he completely glides over (or outright ignores) was Trumps politicizing of the issue. America is now fundamentally a 2 bipartisan tribal state where people are (by peer pressure) driven into 1 of 2 camps. The moment Trump politicized and the rest of American politics jumped into the fray there were 2 answers and nothing else was allowed to be discussed. There in lies the problem of over simplifying complex problems which is only ever made worse by politics and catastrophic by partisan politics. The number of discussable answers becomes limited because GROUP THINK TAKES OVER and you are either 100% with your group or you are the enemy. I like these guys but he's dug a bit of a hole here which we all do at times. We want or present simple answers to complex problems. Occasionally the simple answer is all we need, but that's the exception not the norm.
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I wouldn't say perfect (although it is very good) because he's also gliding over some very complex issues very simplistically. Take the Lab Leak. In the early it wasn't just a lab leak it was a weapon either accidentally released or deliberately released. Dr. Michael Osterholm (director of CIDRAP) and one of the few people who's been both accurate and realistic about the whole pandemic, pointed out (earlier in 2021) that between the outright natural occurrence and the leaked weapon there's 1000s of answers but only 1 is correct. Konstantin fails to point out we never got to have a rational public discussion on the origin. There other thing he completely glides over (or outright ignores) was Trumps politicizing of the issue. America is now fundamentally a 2 bipartisan tribal state where people are (by peer pressure) driven into 1 of 2 camps. The moment Trump politicized and the rest of American politics jumped into the fray there were 2 answers and nothing else was allowed to be discussed. There in lies the problem of over simplifying complex problems which is only ever made worse by politics and catastrophic by partisan politics. The number of discussable answers becomes limited because GROUP THINK TAKES OVER and you are either 100% with your group or you are the enemy. I like these guys but he's dug a bit of a hole here which we all do at times. We want or present simple answers to complex problems. Occasionally the simple answer is all we need, but that's the exception not the norm.
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@belladonnahigh9206 Total BS. Like many others I am damn tired of IDIOTIC MORONS claiming their side did nothing and its all the fault of the other side. The Republicans, Democrats, the British parties, the Australian parties, the Canadian parties and ALL THE OTHERS all do the same shite and their moronic supporters all do the same thing. "Your side is corrupt and my side is the savior of humanity." You scream and rant about Biden, MSNBC, CNN and others while ignoring how corrupt Trump, Fox, OANN are. You scream about Hunter Biden and a laptop NOBODY has seen. Fine he used daddy's name to get a job and that's shite. Now when are YOU going to admit Jared & Ivanka are as corrupt as all hell. I've had a gutful of shite people LIKE YOU ranting about the other side while ignoring your own side.
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@andrewreaney I agree with your first paragraph but not the second. The simplest fact is that ANYTMIE any US politician opens their mouth they make the situation political. Trump amplified everything wrong with Western Politics There's so much hypocrisy from all sides. Look at Pelosi's hypocrisy. Last year Kelly Loeffler was caught insider trading and should have gone to jail. This year Nancy Pelosi says its all fine when politicians do it. Trump and the GOP scream about Hunter Biden but wont even discuss Jared and Ivanka. Just imagine how Trump and the GOP would behave if Joe gave Hunter a job in the White House?
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@belladonnahigh9206 You just started by contradicting your first comment. You say its not your side and you took a side. People like are so full of shite and you don't even know how full if shite you are. You said I'm from California. What a bullshit assumption. FYI - I'm Australian but went to college in Illinois on a sports scholarship. I utterly HATE what the Dems, GOP and media have done to America. I hate STUPID people like you because you take these idiotic stances of "my side is perfect and their side is corrupt." We have the same stupidity here but NOT YET as toxic despite people trying. I just watched an interview with Rick Wilson on DW where he goes on about how Trump is so corrupt and how toxic the GOP now is. What's foul about his claims is that he was one of the main architects of over 1,000 toxic GOP campaigns and that's his OWN ADMISSION.
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@Angel-te2jt Thanks and your right its all gone tribal. Have you listened to Mark Blyth? In writing the book Angrynomics with Eric Lonergan they both talk about sports fans and in particular football (soccer) fans because when they're in the UK they go to matches. Apparently at one such game they realised where the anger was often aimed. It wasn't at the other side or the other fans or the referee or even their own team. Most of the anger is fans against other fans in their group for insufficient loyalty. He talks about it often here's one example at 29:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJH0LIKdC-A What are we seeing right now among Trump supporters and the way they react to each other and the rest of the conservatives? Look at the threats they throw at each other and usually its over loyalty to "the team."
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@Hellig Usvart I haven't copied or pasted a single thing DK-HED. Like all your soft cok kind you can't handle facts.
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@menzicosce Great way to describe them "anyone whose dream in life is to be in power over others should be naturally suspect." I wonder if that is considered an characteristic of narcissism or a consequence of narcissism?
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@menzicosce I had to check the reference. I like PF a lot but never had that album. And you are dead right - the opening verse. Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere And build them a home, a little place of their own. The Fletcher Memorial Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings.
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@guest4888 Professor Mark Blyth (Brown U.) who is someone these guys need to interview on a regular basis, often refers to a paper written by Michael Kalecki in 1943 "Political Aspects of Full Employment." I finally got round to looking at it this morning while the Internet was down. Its an odd paper by any discipline. It has no graphs, no charts and no formulas it just explains some concepts regarding economics, employment and politics. Its mainly observations and one of them is "But obstinate ignorance is usually a manifestation of underlying political motives." So when you compare these guys and others to main stream media. What you have these guys NOT pushing a political agenda versus main stream media owned by billionaires ALWAYS pushing political agendas. So you have these guys being open and enquiring versus the pig headed obstinance of main stream media that ignores anything they don't like. Your comment struck me as "I was just reading about this a few hours ago" because its right in line with what a Kalecki wrote almost 80 years ago during WW2 about public information and political agendas.
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@pippo-1073 Its amazing how idiotic people like you are. You point the finger at anyone and everyone you can accusing them OF WHAT YOU DO. Trump politicized EVERYHTING. The Dems politicized EVERYHTING. The GOP politicized EVERYHTING. MSNC, FOX, CNN, OAN they all politicized EVERYHTING you ignorant moron As for Hunters laptop - Where is it? Simple as that who's got it? How nobody including Rudy Giuliani has stepped forward INFRONT of TV camera and said "See, here it is." and shown everyone the serial number and proved its actually Hunters laptop. Its called EVIDENCE moron.
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@benzemamumba I agree to a point that they are at least at times partisan hacks. But the question is are they doing it deliberately like the "opinion as fact" hacks at MSNBC, CNN, FOX, OAN,... etc. He's definitely failed here by trying to be a serious journalist and simplify a complex problem. I know how complex it is because one of the worlds leading experts talked about this in detail this time LAST YEAR. Dr. Michael Osterholm (who Joe Rogan interviewed right at the start of the pandemic) did a great explanation on mandates and hesitancy. Rogan's interview with him was gold, because Rogan kept his opinions out of the discussion. He asked questions and listened to the answers. Why Rogan hasn't had him back defies logic in my mind. Anyway what Dr. Osterholm described is that there are actually 3 main groups. 1) the pro-vaccine people who just get vaccinated as soon as they can. 2) the anti-vaxxers who just won't and can't be reasoned with. 3) the hesitant who can have an array of reasons and degrees of hesitancy making it a complex subject. Dr. O has decades of experience explained that mandates are meaningless to the first 2 groups. They're simple because their minds are made up, but the hesitant aren't a simple answer and mandates are an added pressure that doesn't help. Often leading to them being even more hesitant. Konstantin has put this all down to 1 simple answer of failed trust, which is just plain WRONG. Good to see someone else spotted it for the failure it is.
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@menzicosce I found this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDDzR2zSgsM
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