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Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Lies about Project 2025" video.
I'm Australian and one of those authors was interviewed on Australian TV and he scared the crap out of us. Ryan is completely missing the point here. This infographic might not match up perfectly with the document BUT IT MATCHES perfectly with the goals of the organisations that make up the conglomeration that's P2025.
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Ryan I like your channel. You are usually very informative and even in this case you've been informative, but as you can see from my other comments in this thread and many other comments on the page the opinion is you got this wrong. Your mistake (as I see it) was not being clear that you are ONLY CRITIQUING & COMPARING the info graphic to a single Project 2025 document. As many others are saying you are ignoring what the authors of Project 2025 have said in interviews and said at the conferences. You were very critical recently of Sagaar Enjeti, and rightly so. Sagaar made some ridiculous statements regarding Ukraine and America's involvement, BUT YOU have made a similar mistake here. You have taken the infographic out of the context that it not only aims at the single document but also at the overall aims of project 2025. I suggest you look at the analysis of Project 2025 done by Legal Eagle as well as go watch the interview Commander Bryan McGrath, USN (Ret.) gave on Ward Carroll's channel regarding Project 2025 and the US Military. Also on a point of math. Your Graphic at 22:28 claims that the "Truth score" is 17% (5 out of 29) but you also show that there were 15 items you claim are partially true which means the actual "Truth score" lies between 17% and 51.7% (15 out of 29). So just putting up that 17% is misleading by you own standard. HOWEVER if you take the other 14 items and put them against the other comments and publications made by the various organisations that make up the Project 2025 conglomerate WHICH IS WHAT OTHERS HAVE DONE then the "Truth score" might be as high as 100%. Note: I deliberately use the word conglomerate and NOT a word like coalition or group, because the Think Tanks behind Project 2025 are first and foremost the Public Relations and Propaganda arms for various CORPORATE interests. Most notably the Heritage Foundation for decades was the principle PR&P for Phillip Morris to prevent government regulation of tobacco, while the CATO Institute has been the principle PR&P for the Koch family. SO PLEASE Don't go and wreck the good work you have been doing by doing the very thing you recently called someone else out for AND YES I do genuinely mean you do good work, just not this time.
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@Anarcho-harambeism NO - what most of the other people commenting are commenting based on all the other breakdowns they have seen on Project 2025. Ryan's done a work check of this infographic against another document NOT an analysis of Project 2025. I'd recommend you and others go and look at Legal Eagle's breakdown of the legal issues in Project 2025. I'd also recommend you go and watch Ward Carroll's interview of Commander Bryan McGrath, USN (Ret.) who's worked for the Heritage Foundation on military issues. The interview sticks to the military issues in the P2025 document, but he rips it apart. He basically says Project 2025 is being run by a small group inside the Heritage Foundation who are nut bags and who've linked up with other nut bags in other Right Wing Think Tanks. ALSO the Heritage Foundation has a very, very long history of spewing misinformation themselves. They were the main Think Tank Phillip Morris used to stall anything on dealing with the tobacco industry and they have been one of the main disseminators of climate change misinformation. They have acted in the past as nothing more than a pack of propagandists for hire.
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@Anarcho-harambeism Well you cant even spell e-a-g-l-e right so WTF are you talking about?
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@adamm4766 Australian here - You are RIGHT its American politics and we have NO RIGHT to influence American politics. He's your POTUS not ours, but we have to deal with him. AND WHEN American politics affects our lives and the lives of billions of people around the world YOU BETTER EXPECT WE HAVE OPINIONS ON AMREICAN POLITICS.
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As a concerned Australian I agree. NOTHING about Project 2025 is what any Western LIBERAL democracy wants. One of the main authors was extensively interviewed on Australian TV and he basically promoted all of what's on the infographic Ryan's debunking. I also watched Ward Carroll's interview of Commander Bryan McGrath, USN (Ret.) who's worked for the Heritage Foundation on military issues. The interview sticks to the military issues in the P2025 document, but he rips it apart. He basically says Project 2025 is being run by a small group inside the Heritage Foundation who are nut bags and who've linked up with other nut bags in other Right Wing Think Tanks. ALSO the Heritage Foundation has a very, very long history of spewing misinformation themselves. They were the main Think Tank Phillip Morris used to stall anything on dealing with the tobacco industry and they have been one of the main disseminators of climate change misinformation. They have acted in the past as nothing more than a pack of propagandists for hire.
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@JeffreyEpstein-f6y Actually the bloodless comment was by Kevin Roberts and it was "We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless, if the left allows it to be." (Newsweek "Project 2025 Leader Promises 'Second American Revolution' Published" Jul 03, 2024) So it was LEFT not Liberal.
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@bsadewitz One of the things you'll find in all the think tanks, no matter if they are Left or Right, orientated they all have a few very knowledgeable people or subject matter experts in them. They need those people so they can pump out stuff that is legitimate and stands scrutiny. They do it for credibility so the other nonsense they also pump out (and they all pump out nonsense) looks good too.
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