Comments by "Tony Wilson" (@tonywilson4713) on "Why Time Magazine Wants to Risk Nuclear War With China Over AI | JHS Ep. 888" video.

  1. HEY JORDAN: I normally love these interviews you do but sometimes you NEED TO PUSH BACK instead of just agreeing with everything. This is one of the great failings many people like yourself. Its great that you have people like Marc on to discuss their thing but for things this important you NEED A COUNTERPOINT. FYI - Just like marc I did my undergraduate at the U. of Illinois except I was in aerospace and a few years ahead of him. I was there when they were going through the "what do we do with this" phase of large data bases. We had a system called Plato which was a pre-Internet information system AND IT WAS AWFUL to use. When PCs arrived Apple, IBM, AT& T just dumped machines with various departments. In aerospace we got a truckload (about 50) AT&T PCs with Unix operating systems. They had a amazing computational capacity compared to both the IBMs and Apples but that version of Unix was so damn horrible to use these machines were basically useless. I knew a guy who was working on the Cray Supercomputers it was pretty interesting to here the technical details of what they were dealing with. I have spent 30+ years in industrial control systems, automation and robotics. Mostly I have worked in manufacturing and mining but also water and waste water treatment, energy systems and gas plants. I have seen a lot happen in that time and I can tell you from that experience that Marc is simply dead wrong on a number of topics. No doubt on these AI platforms he knows more than I do but by the same token I know a lot more than he does on industrial issues. In industry we have had so many tech clowns form the IT industry waft in an make pronouncements. What the IT people NEVER UNDERSATND is that industry does not play games with software or any of the technology. When you are working on multi-billion dollar lumps of stuff you just can't take the blasé attitude of the IT industry. these are lumps of stuff that you just cannot have data errors and software crashes. In my field we pay attention when ever the IT people are close because they JUST DO NOT GET WHAT WE DO. You'd be amazed just how lacking in knowledge other engineers are of what control system people do. IT people are just worse than normal. Putting it mildly without control system engineers writing incredibly stable software the world as you know it does NOT EXIST. You wouldn't be reading this now because you wouldn't have electricity. We keep society as you know it working NOT the Marc Andreesens of the world. His claims AI will be running everything are just FALSE. I assure you he has no idea of what we do or he'd never make those claims.
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